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Mwangi wa Iria overtakes Alfred Mutua
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#11 Posted : Thursday, February 05, 2015 1:44:53 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Iria means miok in mountains?
so what did @Mwangi do to miok?


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washiku
#12 Posted : Thursday, February 05, 2015 1:53:08 PM
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This devolution thing can be a game changer if done the right way. By the way I was thinking the other day, suppose all the money that is usually sent to counties was done in a CDF model without having a county govt per se, could it have been better? All the huge expenditure cash could be going into paying for projects instead of buying cars for county govts. CDF had great impact yet it was little cash. Right now the money is in billions yet some counties are yet to feel it.
Impunity
#13 Posted : Thursday, February 05, 2015 3:21:11 PM
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washiku wrote:
This devolution thing can be a game changer if done the right way. By the way I was thinking the other day, suppose all the money that is usually sent to counties was done in a CDF model without having a county govt per se, could it have been better? All the huge expenditure cash could be going into paying for projects instead of buying cars for county govts. CDF had great impact yet it was little cash. Right now the money is in billions yet some counties are yet to feel it.


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chiaroscuro
#14 Posted : Thursday, February 05, 2015 3:21:22 PM
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washiku wrote:
This devolution thing can be a game changer if done the right way. By the way I was thinking the other day, suppose all the money that is usually sent to counties was done in a CDF model without having a county govt per se, could it have been better? All the huge expenditure cash could be going into paying for projects instead of buying cars for county govts. CDF had great impact yet it was little cash. Right now the money is in billions yet some counties are yet to feel it.


Why are you referring to CDF in the past tense? Isn't it still going on?

I know it is still on because an MP is funding construction of a library in a school I'm associated with.....
Lolest!
#15 Posted : Thursday, February 05, 2015 3:37:27 PM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
washiku wrote:
This devolution thing can be a game changer if done the right way. By the way I was thinking the other day, suppose all the money that is usually sent to counties was done in a CDF model without having a county govt per se, could it have been better? All the huge expenditure cash could be going into paying for projects instead of buying cars for county govts. CDF had great impact yet it was little cash. Right now the money is in billions yet some counties are yet to feel it.


Why are you referring to CDF in the past tense? Isn't it still going on?

I know it is still on because an MP is funding construction of a library in a school I'm associated with.....

My MP is doing a lot on schools with cdf too but i think we should stop cdf and give the money to the governors to use/ misuse
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MaichBlack
#16 Posted : Thursday, February 05, 2015 7:39:23 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
washiku wrote:
This devolution thing can be a game changer if done the right way. By the way I was thinking the other day, suppose all the money that is usually sent to counties was done in a CDF model without having a county govt per se, could it have been better? All the huge expenditure cash could be going into paying for projects instead of buying cars for county govts. CDF had great impact yet it was little cash. Right now the money is in billions yet some counties are yet to feel it.


Why are you referring to CDF in the past tense? Isn't it still going on?

I know it is still on because an MP is funding construction of a library in a school I'm associated with.....

My MP is doing a lot on schools with cdf too but i think we should stop cdf and give the money to the governors to use/ misuse

We should do away with County Governments and channel the money to CDF - like funds that are independent of political office holders (starting with MPigs). MPigs can be patrons or something like that with zero involvement in the direct running of the fund.

MPigs and a board to provide oversight and the funds to be run by EMPLOYED professionals. MPigs, the board and representatives of different stakeholders sit down and come up with a five year development plan broken down into five financial years then leave the implementation to professionals.
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Lolest!
#17 Posted : Friday, February 06, 2015 6:39:39 AM
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@maich, the purpose of devolution is taking resources and POWER closer to the grassroots

Which is why we are seeing clan/ethnic conflict in Narok, Marsabit, Mandera etc

The people should be able to have enough of their own in those small governments
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mawinder
#18 Posted : Friday, February 06, 2015 9:34:05 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
washiku wrote:
This devolution thing can be a game changer if done the right way. By the way I was thinking the other day, suppose all the money that is usually sent to counties was done in a CDF model without having a county govt per se, could it have been better? All the huge expenditure cash could be going into paying for projects instead of buying cars for county govts. CDF had great impact yet it was little cash. Right now the money is in billions yet some counties are yet to feel it.


Why are you referring to CDF in the past tense? Isn't it still going on?

I know it is still on because an MP is funding construction of a library in a school I'm associated with.....

My MP is doing a lot on schools with cdf too but i think we should stop cdf and give the money to the governors to use/ misuse

We should do away with County Governments and channel the money to CDF - like funds that are independent of political office holders (starting with MPigs). MPigs can be patrons or something like that with zero involvement in the direct running of the fund.

MPigs and a board to provide oversight and the funds to be run by EMPLOYED professionals. MPigs, the board and representatives of different stakeholders sit down and come up with a five year development plan broken down into five financial years then leave the implementation to professionals.

I support the idea for selfish reasons as I am destined to be an MP, however this is bad for Engineer Rege who once wanted to be governor!!!!!!!!!!
YoungMulla
#19 Posted : Friday, February 06, 2015 1:08:11 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
@maich, the purpose of devolution is taking resources and POWER closer to the grassroots

Which is why we are seeing clan/ethnic conflict in Narok, Marsabit, Mandera etc

The people should be able to have enough of their own in those small governments


I believe the idea is to channel the 'devil-ution' money going to paying of wages to development projects under CDF. That way, wananchi can enjoy more development. As much as devolution was good on paper, it's very expensive for our Kenyan economy. That plus greed and misplaced interests = billions down the drain!

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YoungMulla
#20 Posted : Friday, February 06, 2015 1:10:08 PM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
This man is steadily overtaking Mutua...




This is just plain talk until we see results on the ground. Kusema na kutenda!!
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