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ANOTHER TROPHYLESS SEASON NOW CONFIRMED
kingfisher
#21 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2010 7:32:57 AM
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@TAZ....which is this CONSISTENT team?? Surely it cannot be arse anal, can it?
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KulaRaha
#22 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2010 7:49:06 AM
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Indian billionaire Mukesh Ambani sets sights on buying Liverpool from Hicks and Gillett

By Helen Power, Matt Hughes & Patrick Kidd

Liverpool emerged as a takeover target for the seventh-richest man in the world last night as the pressure mounted on Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr to cut a deal to sell Anfield.

Mukesh Ambani, the wealthiest man in India, is one of two tycoons from the sub-continent competing to buy a stake in the Merseyside club.

The Sahara Group’s chairman, Subrata Roy, and Ambani’s Reliance Industries have each tendered similar bids to pay off Liverpool’s £237 million debt in return for a 51 per cent stake in the club.

Last night Christian Purslow, the Liverpool chief executive, denied any knowledge of either bid, but The Times understands that approaches began as early as November and that some preliminary talks have taken place.

Each deal requires that the present owners make a commitment to take no dividends or expenses out of Anfield for three years to allow the club to resume a secure financial basis. One of the potential owners has also indicated a willingness to allow supporters to take a 10 per cent stake in Liverpool.

A source close to Hicks and Gillett said that the duo would reject on principle any bid that left them with less than 50 per cent of the club’s shares unless it involved either of them selling out entirely. A sale of more than half of the total stake would mean they would lose control of the club.

It is understood that Liverpool’s banker, the state-backed Royal Bank of Scotland, is pressing Hicks and Gillett to cut their asking price.

The bank declined to comment last night, but a source close to RBS said that there has been plenty of interest in Liverpool from investors. However, the source added, the owners are blocking all deals on the table because they refuse to budge on price.

The source said the bank’s stipulation that the pair must pay off £100 million of the debt and inject tens of millions of pounds into the club was intended to push them into an agreement with a new investor that would permanently stabilise Liverpool’s finances.

A number of other potential bidders include a Saudi Arabian consortium and a United States-based buyer, who is prepared to pay the £100 million required by the lenders in exchange for 40 per cent of the club.

Roy, whose interest appears more serious, has been linked with ownership of one of the next IPL franchises, possibly to be based in the north Indian city of Lucknow, where the Sahara Group, of which he is chairman, is based.

Roy, 62, founded the company, which deals in property, media and tourism, in 1978. Its four-year sponsorship deal with the India cricket team, worth £55 million, expires this year and Roy could be looking for a new project. Sahara was linked with shirt sponsorship of Manchester United last February, a deal that fell through.

Ambani, 52, is said to be worth $19.5 billion (about £12.5 billion) — more than the combined worth of Sheikh Mansour and Roman Abramovich — from his investment in Reliance Industries, a petrochemicals giant, according to Forbes business magazine.

His father, Dhirubhai, turned a small textiles company into one of Asia’s largest conglomerates, but after Ambani Sr’s death in 2002, Mukesh and his younger brother, Anil, had a bitter feud over the company’s direction, eventually splitting the assets.

Mukesh Ambani is already a big player in sport. In 2008 he created the Mumbai Indians, one of the eight teams in the Indian Premier League (IPL), having paid £70 million to buy the franchise. Anil Ambani has been linked with a bid for one of two new franchises in the IPL that will be put up for auction at the end of the month, with a starting price of £140 million.

Gillett and Hicks took over at Anfield three years ago in a leveraged buyout costing nearly £300 million, including £70 million for a stadium that remains unbuilt. Despite promises to the contrary, they loaded the debt on to the club via a £350 million loan with RBS and have struggled to service the debt since the credit crunch began 18 months ago.

Before the economic climate changed for the worse, the American duo turned down an offer from Dubai worth almost £500 million — a deal that would have allowed each of the owners to walk away with a clear profit in the region of £125 million.

The Americans are unpopular with the supporters and the hostility at Anfield has increased as it has become clear that there is no money available to strengthen the team.

Purslow, whose background is in private equity, joined the club last summer with a brief to bring in investment but, despite repeated briefings that an influx of cash in close at hand, there has been little to suggest investors are keen to take a minority stake in the club.

While these latest offers will almost certainly be rejected, it marks the beginning of a period of jockeying for position in the ownership battle. It is a battle that, ultimately, RBS may have to resolve.
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Bashka
#23 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2010 8:12:59 AM
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@TAZ, well said. The most consistent team wins the league. After beating Arsenal, Manugus and Chelsea fans are bragging.
McReggae
#24 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:02:12 AM
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TAZ, the most consistent in losing can obviously not win the league.....lol!!!!!
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mwenza
#25 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:35:11 AM
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At this juncture am not sure who will win the EPL. However am certain its NOT ARSE-ANAL!

@TAZ and the like .....Am ready to be reminded of this statement in MAY.
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mwenza
#26 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:35:48 AM
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At this juncture am not sure who will win the EPL. However am certain its NOT ARSE-ANAL!

@TAZ and the like .....Am ready to be reminded of this statement in MAY.
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
McReggae
#27 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:09:18 PM
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Tonight.....action packed, upsets to be expected!!!!
....by the way btwn fools and arses, wat would be considered an upset?????
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
anasazi
#28 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:49:28 PM
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I HATE ManPester United. May they become bankrupt and follow the way that Leeds followed!
Form is temporary, class is permanent
smano
#29 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:48:54 PM
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@anasazi endelea kuota.

@Taz, everyone agrees that the most consistent team wins the league. That's why the league is so open this season, good for the fans as well.

That said, I doubt even the most ardent Assnole fan can predict a premier league title win for them, if Man Utd is inconsistent in the remaining games, I doubt Chelshit will follow suit - and vice versa. Personally I see Man Utd losing some points in at least one of the next 4 matches, away to Villa, CL away to AC, away to Everton followed by Carling Cup final? Hapo tukitoboa zote then we have a real chance of retaining the title due to the obvious morale boost.

I think it's a two horse race for the premier, 3rd and especially 4th place remain open season. May the best team all year win, hopefully it will go down to the last game for the fans.

Jana on ESPN free preess, the contention was that playing good football without winning titles is useless. Barca fans would not give a shit if that poetic football played by the Blaugrana didn't win them anything last season!In my books, they're the team to beat in the CL, again. Time will tell.

Over and out!
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Njung'e
#30 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:27:33 AM
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Taz,Smano,bashka,njung'esmile .

Mcreggae,MwenzaSad Brick wall

Chelski....d'oh!
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mwenza
#31 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:35:33 AM
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Guka.......Are you sure you have put @Smano in the right set?

The true gainers last night were Man Utd. At least the gap at the top is just one point now. At Man-U our interest is what happens infront of us and NOT behind.......and thats why the chelski loss is so important to us.
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Njung'e
#32 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:44:53 AM
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STOP.......Before you win an award for consoling yourself.And what is right infront of you?...EVERTON!!.....and if i may join your crying class,Gunners won't be playing any team that's amongst the top 7.....Meza wembe!!...lol
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mwenza
#33 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:01:21 AM
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EVERTON ni kitoweo chetu..............Our only concern is the small matter of NANI's(the new kid on the bloc) suspension.
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TAZ
#34 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:23:51 AM
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Here are the fixtures:

Man U - Everton, W/ham, Fulham, L'pool, Bolton, Chelsea, B'burn

Arsenal - Sunderland, stoke, Burnley, Hull, W/Ham, B'ham,Wolves

Chelsea - Wolves, Man City, P'mouth, W/ham, B'Burn, Aston villa, Man Utd

If Arsenal won't be on top of the league by April, i will be first to call for Wenger's resignation.
McReggae
#35 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:48:16 AM
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Liar Njung'e, hata wewe jameni, I thought you follow this leaugue, you are yet to play Spurs away and Citeh at home.....are they not in top 7Sad ?????.......dont forget Stoke and Hull away.....lol.

Jana was great night for United, playing for more than 1 hour with ten men and getting a point away at Villa park chelski wakichapwa was great.

......If we won the a game against arse anal the way they did against fools jana the gooners would all be here saying how we bribed the referee.....spot kick and a 2nd yellow for FabregasShame on you Shame on you , did you guys see that?????

GLORY GLORY GLORY UNITED!!!!Applause Applause Applause
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Njung'e
#36 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:58:04 AM
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@Mcreggae,
You are damn right....Spurs na City bado.
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anasazi
#37 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:02:12 PM
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To hell with Man U. Louis Saha will be on a revenge mission to show you that you lost a good thing. Hat trick for Saha! Saha oyee!
Form is temporary, class is permanent
McReggae
#38 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:13:21 PM
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anasazi, wacha shallow support, talk some real sense tp real football fans like some of us!!!!

Talking about Saha, he is just like Van Persie, very good and talented but always on the treatment table!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
TAZ
#39 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 2:17:05 PM
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McReggae....once again heres how the fixtures look like

Man Utd (April) - Chelsea (H), B'Burn (A) , man City (A), Spurs (H)

Arsenal (April) - Wolves (H), Spurs(A), Wigan(A), Man city (H)
Apart from the obvious hard games for united i think encounters involving fulham, Blackburn etc are potential "banana skins".

Btw...Van Persie's return is in April.
bkismat
#40 Posted : Friday, February 12, 2010 6:26:24 AM
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In English football four teams share the record of 14 consecutive wins:

- Manchester United 1904-05 – Second division
- Bristol City 1905-06 – Second division
- Preston North End 1950-51 – Second division
- Arsenal 2001-02/2002-03 – Premier league

No Man U. No Chelsea. No Liverpool.These 3 teams really put pressure on Arsenal.With those teams out of the pic they will play without pressure and can easily go on a winning streak. Admittedly there may be a few banana skins like Tottenham or Man City but looks like this is the gunners best chance yet. Man U and Chelsea have to play against each other.Both teams may drop 2 points or one team will drop all the 3 points.They also have to play against liverpool.
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