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maka
#681 Posted : Monday, January 19, 2015 3:55:16 PM
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Did their bond ever list?How was the uptake?somebody please...
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The optimist
#682 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2015 11:26:46 AM
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rich.co.ke going nuts!
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#683 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2015 11:43:32 AM
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rich does this on many counters only to confirm and realise its hot air
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#684 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2015 12:04:53 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
rich does this on many counters only to confirm and realise its hot air


Yeah, noticed that with MSC and TCL as well. Happens also when there's an announcement/event
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mlennyma
#685 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2015 12:38:49 PM
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Kastone wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
rich does this on many counters only to confirm and realise its hot air


Yeah, noticed that with MSC and TCL as well. Happens also when there's an announcement/event

you can also realise rich says equity has traded a low of 2.80 bob today
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#686 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2015 2:20:18 PM
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By da way have you noticed the massive volume traded on the counter early dis week? Could someone be positioning himself for the rally? Probably as soon as any info is out?
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Ndaragwa
#687 Posted : Friday, January 30, 2015 7:07:01 AM
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maka wrote:
Did their bond ever list?How was the uptake?somebody please...


Home Africa Bond issue was unsuccessful. See Daily Nation January 30th 2015, page 15
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Ericsson
#688 Posted : Friday, January 30, 2015 12:12:26 PM
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They failed to meet the company's minimum threshold.
The company opted for a private placement with their bank for ksh.500mn.
This shows investors have no faith with the company and its plans.
Similar corporate bonds in 2014 have been netting huge oversubscriptions.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Aguytrying
#689 Posted : Friday, January 30, 2015 12:29:59 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
They failed to meet the company's minimum threshold.
The company opted for a private placement with their bank for ksh.500mn.
This shows investors have no faith with the company and its plans.
Similar corporate bonds in 2014 have been netting huge oversubscriptions.


If bond money is rejecting them, Not even fit to be a junk bond.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Ericsson
#690 Posted : Friday, January 30, 2015 12:44:52 PM
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For the company to redeem itself;it will need a deep pocketed suitor who has interest in real interest to buy a majority stake in the firm.
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AE
#691 Posted : Friday, January 30, 2015 12:50:25 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
They failed to meet the company's minimum threshold.
The company opted for a private placement with their bank for ksh.500mn.
This shows investors have no faith with the company and its plans.
Similar corporate bonds in 2014 have been netting huge oversubscriptions.


If bond money is rejecting them, Not even fit to be a junk bond.


This thing should sell at sub 2....It seems not able to fall below Ksh 4.00
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MaichBlack
#692 Posted : Friday, January 30, 2015 1:35:48 PM
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Link: Where is @guru? Investors not interested in a 13.5% bond. Confidence leve must be at negative something...
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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mkonomtupu
#693 Posted : Friday, January 30, 2015 2:18:31 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
They failed to meet the company's minimum threshold.
The company opted for a private placement with their bank for ksh.500mn.
This shows investors have no faith with the company and its plans.
Similar corporate bonds in 2014 have been netting huge oversubscriptions.


The market is tight even 90 day t-bills are attracting 42% subscription. If this company had chinese contractors maybe the market would consider but their speed of execution e.g. on migaa does not inspire
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obiero
#694 Posted : Friday, January 30, 2015 6:52:13 PM
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CMA should save investors from this cowboys

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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VituVingiSana
#695 Posted : Friday, January 30, 2015 8:04:21 PM
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obiero wrote:
CMA should save investors from this cowboys

Too bad CMA didn't save the poor shareholders of KQ from TN & crew!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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derick
#696 Posted : Friday, January 30, 2015 9:32:45 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
CMA should save investors from this cowboys

Too bad CMA didn't save the poor shareholders of KQ from TN & crew!

Too bad it does not
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Mainat
#697 Posted : Sunday, February 01, 2015 7:07:25 AM
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Bet they regret flooding the market with shares when doing their IPO. If it had been a tight float, a convertible bond issuance would have worked well.
Alas, now at the mercy of vultures (sorry banks)...
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mlennyma
#698 Posted : Sunday, February 01, 2015 12:53:24 PM
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Mainat wrote:
Bet they regret flooding the market with shares when doing their IPO. If it had been a tight float, a convertible bond issuance would have worked well.
Alas, now at the mercy of vultures (sorry banks)...

I think this company has no continuous flowing income which is very dangerous
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Mainat
#699 Posted : Monday, February 02, 2015 7:00:42 AM
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derick
#700 Posted : Monday, February 02, 2015 7:51:45 AM
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[quote=Mainat]Interesting
http://www.businessdaily...2/-/j21rn6/-/index.html[/quote]
That's interesting
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