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How to improve security in Kenya
Muriel
#11 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:12:21 PM
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How to improve security.

I propose:

Become unfindable in the internet. Avoid having a findable (IP) address like Fullykenyan proposes. Government must not know where you are or where you stay.

tycho
#12 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:18:38 PM
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Let me give an illustration. The case of grabbed land in Langata primary and other places is a preventable security breach that has been largely ignored.

The consequence was the police doing the right thing but on the wrong side of their motto. The children took a risk that's highly unusual, and a cabinet secretary for example threatens to quit office after naming the culprit. And the President asks what we did to prevent all this.

Could there be a pattern to all these or most of these breaches? Can we discern their cause? Can we change conditions to decrease such incidences?

Land has been a source of insecurity for many in Kenya. What can be done to make it a less contentious issue?

I doubt whether these are matters of heavenly rhetoric, but are matters we can handle intelligently if we wish.
tycho
#13 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:23:10 PM
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Muriel wrote:
How to improve security.

I propose:

Become unfindable in the internet. Avoid having a findable (IP) address like Fullykenyan proposes. Government must not know where you are or where you stay.



Before we propose solutions we need to understand the factors at play. Otherwise for example, our solutions may end up being inadequate. I wouldn't believe you if you said that hiding IP addresses and cryptography will make us safer. There are many without IP addresses who are and have been insecure all this time.
Muriel
#14 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:48:54 PM
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tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
How to improve security.

I propose:

Become unfindable in the internet. Avoid having a findable (IP) address like Fullykenyan proposes. Government must not know where you are or where you stay.



Before we propose solutions we need to understand the factors at play. Otherwise for example, our solutions may end up being inadequate. I wouldn't believe you if you said that hiding IP addresses and cryptography will make us safer. There are many without IP addresses who are and have been insecure all this time.


Then security is myth. A folklore, even.

Does it exist?
Othelo
#15 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:54:47 PM
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Know your neighbours well, the so called nyumba kumi!!!!!!!!!!
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
tycho
#16 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:55:50 PM
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Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
How to improve security.

I propose:

Become unfindable in the internet. Avoid having a findable (IP) address like Fullykenyan proposes. Government must not know where you are or where you stay.



Before we propose solutions we need to understand the factors at play. Otherwise for example, our solutions may end up being inadequate. I wouldn't believe you if you said that hiding IP addresses and cryptography will make us safer. There are many without IP addresses who are and have been insecure all this time.


Then security is myth. A folklore, even.

Does it exist?


I am unable to see the justification for your conclusion. Besides, am not sure of what you mean by 'myth'.
Swenani
#17 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:57:48 PM
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Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
How to improve security.

I propose:

Become unfindable in the internet. Avoid having a findable (IP) address like Fullykenyan proposes. Government must not know where you are or where you stay.



Before we propose solutions we need to understand the factors at play. Otherwise for example, our solutions may end up being inadequate. I wouldn't believe you if you said that hiding IP addresses and cryptography will make us safer. There are many without IP addresses who are and have been insecure all this time.


Then security is myth. A folklore, even.

Does it exist?



But..but...security is a myth....Show me or prove to me that security exists
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
tycho
#18 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:58:49 PM
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Othelo wrote:
Know your neighbours well, the so called nyumba kumi!!!!!!!!!!


Our eagerness for providing solutions without seeking to understand the problem is our undoing.
Othelo
#19 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:03:02 PM
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tycho wrote:
Othelo wrote:
Know your neighbours well, the so called nyumba kumi!!!!!!!!!!


Our eagerness for providing solutions without seeking to understand the problem is our undoing.

How bwana tycho?
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
tycho
#20 Posted : Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:03:27 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
How to improve security.

I propose:

Become unfindable in the internet. Avoid having a findable (IP) address like Fullykenyan proposes. Government must not know where you are or where you stay.



Before we propose solutions we need to understand the factors at play. Otherwise for example, our solutions may end up being inadequate. I wouldn't believe you if you said that hiding IP addresses and cryptography will make us safer. There are many without IP addresses who are and have been insecure all this time.


Then security is myth. A folklore, even.

Does it exist?



But..but...security is a myth....Show me or prove to me that security exists


I live in a crime prone area, but I have taken steps that have made it harder for some of these crimes to happen to me. Others who've been less cautious haven't survived.

Swenani, do you know what a myth is?
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