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KENOL-KOBIL 2014
maka
#471 Posted : Friday, December 19, 2014 6:40:56 PM
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Realtreaty wrote:
Will the SuperDogs rise to close the year with a bang? How far can KK move up by 31 Dec, 2014. What is the best deal , under 10 or over 10?


Sub 8.9...action will come in from Feb..get in now if you can...
possunt quia posse videntur
Realtreaty
#472 Posted : Thursday, January 01, 2015 5:45:57 PM
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closing at 8.70 for the year 2014 is not a laughing matter.Sad Sad
Lets See how far it can go up just before the FY2014
murchr
#473 Posted : Thursday, January 01, 2015 6:11:43 PM
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Am about to get back in on this play. I saw someone buy at 8.6 and hopefully a 8.5 will print tomorrow
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Aguytrying
#474 Posted : Thursday, January 01, 2015 11:50:49 PM
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murchr wrote:
Am about to get back in on this play. I saw someone buy at 8.6 and hopefully a 8.5 will print tomorrow


8.50 should print. I'm seeing the share has shaken those demons of sub 8.00.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
VituVingiSana
#475 Posted : Friday, January 02, 2015 9:42:09 AM
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If nothing else KK should benefit from lower oil prices as it (like other OMCs) sell cheaper fuel at higher prices (coz ERC formula lags) BUT it can suffer if oil prices start rising.

2014 is done. I hope they have made the turnaround but the hard work of re-buidling the brand has started. Can Ohana and the Board guide KK to the huge (Operational) profits of days past?

Ultimately, the firm has to be sold to a deep pocketed Strategic Investor. If the books have cleaned up, can Puma return for a second look?
[This may be as a buy-out of existing shareholders or new shares issued i.e. recapitalization]

Fuel/Oil Hedges - Expired? [I think so]
Currency Hedges - Expired? [I think so]
Bad Debts - Collected or Written Off? [I doubt]

My jua kali way to look at it is to visit their stations. I see some improvement since June 2014. They stations are cleaner and stocked/wet. There is a lot that needs to be done but if progress continues a this rate then there may be hope in 2015.

Sale of KK. I hoped it was 2015 but I think it will a 2016 play. The biwotts would want clarity on the CGT.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Gordon Gekko
#476 Posted : Friday, January 02, 2015 1:20:34 PM
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Read on the internet a few days ago (can't remember which site) on the richest ten Africans. Bikini was there with 99B. It also said he had completely exited petroleum.
Realtreaty
#477 Posted : Saturday, January 03, 2015 1:23:36 PM
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Sad
The main funny and queer thing is having bought the last quarter oils at higher price and they are selling at lower price.
The order for 1st quarter 2015 had been placed at maybe relkatively higher price as well.
Now everyone from Mumias to Rea are preparing their FY2014 things!!!
d'oh! d'oh!

VituVingiSana
#478 Posted : Sunday, January 04, 2015 11:13:59 AM
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Realtreaty wrote:
Sad
The main funny and queer thing is having bought the last quarter oils at higher price and they are selling at lower price.
The order for 1st quarter 2015 had been placed at maybe relkatively higher price as well.
Now everyone from Mumias to Rea are preparing their FY2014 things!!!
d'oh! d'oh!

Yes and No. The ERC pricing is based on loading done in the past 2 months so the selling price reflects it. And if the loading [if bought 60 days ago but received/sold after the downward ERC price change] price is higher than ERC's price, the ouch!

The good news is KK has stopped or reducing ordering cargoes. The bad news is that KK isn't making money on ordering cargoes.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mlennyma
#479 Posted : Friday, January 09, 2015 1:45:21 PM
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The sellers of this thing never get tired,and the current management of kk needs to be crowned an award of keeping quiet.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Aguytrying
#480 Posted : Friday, January 09, 2015 5:30:02 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
The sellers of this thing never get tired,and the current management of kk needs to be crowned an award of keeping quiet.


ha ha your right. they must also have many shares so sell for soo long. the management may be overcompensating the previous ceo
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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