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tycho
#131 Posted : Saturday, December 27, 2014 4:03:46 PM
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Rahatupu wrote:
tycho wrote:
limanika wrote:
Most of the ammendments I read make alot of sense. Notwithstanding what the court decision will be, these laws is an idea whose time has come, n will evnrually prevail now or in the medium term


Though these laws appear to be reasonable and not invariant with the constitution and the bill of rights, at least at face value, their effectiveness and usefulness is highly doubtful. In fact, I think these laws are an attempt by government to appear to be solving issues facing the citizen and even trying to appease the citizen when it in fact isn't close to seeking proper solutions.

Once again the citizen is about to be faced with false options for support even with Cord going to court. I can even say that Cord and Jubilee could be in a tacit conspiracy to keep the citizens distracted from real issues for their own political ends.


? Which ends and how are they tied together?


The ends of politics are power, wealth and flourish. The body politic ties all political players in the sense that the players cause the former to meet their political needs through cooperation and competition.
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Othelo
#132 Posted : Sunday, December 28, 2014 1:31:17 PM
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Personally i dont have a problem with the security bill now law. But why did gava bring in a law which require so many amendment and deleted clauses/sections to be made law. Wish we can have better scenarious where by the time bills go to parliament for debate, they are 90% complete!

Who remembers the NSSF ACT 2013 one year down the line............. smile
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Uram
#133 Posted : Friday, January 02, 2015 10:44:13 AM
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High court suspends 8 sections of the law. The judge directs petition be forwarded to the Chief Justice
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McReggae
#134 Posted : Friday, January 02, 2015 10:53:29 AM
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Uram wrote:
High court suspends 8 sections of the law. The judge directs petition be forwarded to the Chief Justice


The judge has done njumbiree a favour. A more radical one would have suspended everything. It seems the NIS told them the move was dividing the country(again!) like the general elections but do they listen to advice?
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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maka
#135 Posted : Friday, January 02, 2015 10:54:16 AM
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maka wrote:
tycho wrote:
Uram wrote:
washiku wrote:
By the way CORD walienda kortini?



http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Case-over-new-law-to-be-filed-in-court-Tuesday/-/1950946/2566258/-/format/xhtml/-/34wd98/-/index.html


Where cord is more likely to lose than win.


Straight win...

The matter will proceed to its full course after Lenaola declines to suspend the laws temporarily...


ummmh who are celebrating now?
possunt quia posse videntur
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McReggae
#136 Posted : Friday, January 02, 2015 10:59:37 AM
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maka wrote:
maka wrote:
tycho wrote:
Uram wrote:
washiku wrote:
By the way CORD walienda kortini?



http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Case-over-new-law-to-be-filed-in-court-Tuesday/-/1950946/2566258/-/format/xhtml/-/34wd98/-/index.html


Where cord is more likely to lose than win.


Straight win...

The matter will proceed to its full course after Lenaola declines to suspend the laws temporarily...


ummmh who are celebrating now?


Major win for CORD, you can't just pass laws in the parliament using thoraxes that can't stand the test of our constitution?

"All people MUST respect the constitution. It doesn't matter what position they hold or how majestic they are."- Lawyer Dr. John Khaminwa
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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safariant
#137 Posted : Friday, January 02, 2015 12:32:35 PM
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McReggae wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
tycho wrote:
Uram wrote:
washiku wrote:
By the way CORD walienda kortini?



http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Case-over-new-law-to-be-filed-in-court-Tuesday/-/1950946/2566258/-/format/xhtml/-/34wd98/-/index.html


Where cord is more likely to lose than win.


Straight win...

The matter will proceed to its full course after Lenaola declines to suspend the laws temporarily...



ummmh who are celebrating now?


Major win for CORD, you can't just pass laws in the parliament using thoraxes that can't stand the test of our constitution?

"All people MUST respect the constitution. It doesn't matter what position they hold or how majestic they are."- Lawyer Dr. John Khaminwa




Does the judge name betray him?
The greatest act of bravery is chancing a fart while suffering from diarrhoea
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McReggae
#138 Posted : Friday, January 02, 2015 12:41:42 PM
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safariant wrote:
McReggae wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
tycho wrote:
Uram wrote:
washiku wrote:
By the way CORD walienda kortini?



http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Case-over-new-law-to-be-filed-in-court-Tuesday/-/1950946/2566258/-/format/xhtml/-/34wd98/-/index.html


Where cord is more likely to lose than win.


Straight win...

The matter will proceed to its full course after Lenaola declines to suspend the laws temporarily...



ummmh who are celebrating now?


Major win for CORD, you can't just pass laws in the parliament using thoraxes that can't stand the test of our constitution?

"All people MUST respect the constitution. It doesn't matter what position they hold or how majestic they are."- Lawyer Dr. John Khaminwa




Does the judge name betray him?


It's only a suspension thus far the case is reffered to Mutunga -CJ based on the Gicheru Rules cos any issue touching on the constitution has to be handled by a bench which should be an odd number , the same is also provided in the Constitution .
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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nakujua
#139 Posted : Friday, January 02, 2015 12:57:01 PM
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McReggae wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
tycho wrote:
Uram wrote:
washiku wrote:
By the way CORD walienda kortini?



http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Case-over-new-law-to-be-filed-in-court-Tuesday/-/1950946/2566258/-/format/xhtml/-/34wd98/-/index.html


Where cord is more likely to lose than win.


Straight win...

The matter will proceed to its full course after Lenaola declines to suspend the laws temporarily...


ummmh who are celebrating now?


Major win for CORD, you can't just pass laws in the parliament using thoraxes that can't stand the test of our constitution?

"All people MUST respect the constitution. It doesn't matter what position they hold or how majestic they are."- Lawyer Dr. John Khaminwa

I thought its about the people, the beloved country kenya, I would assume this is a major win for wanjiku and of course @alma smile
but seriously if this thing is about egos then we are doomed, not that there was a time when we were not.
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maka
#140 Posted : Friday, January 02, 2015 1:10:18 PM
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Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
safariant wrote:
McReggae wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
tycho wrote:
Uram wrote:
washiku wrote:
By the way CORD walienda kortini?



http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Case-over-new-law-to-be-filed-in-court-Tuesday/-/1950946/2566258/-/format/xhtml/-/34wd98/-/index.html


Where cord is more likely to lose than win.


Straight win...

The matter will proceed to its full course after Lenaola declines to suspend the laws temporarily...



ummmh who are celebrating now?


Major win for CORD, you can't just pass laws in the parliament using thoraxes that can't stand the test of our constitution?

"All people MUST respect the constitution. It doesn't matter what position they hold or how majestic they are."- Lawyer Dr. John Khaminwa




Does the judge name betray him?


No no no...I have said it here before Lenaola and Odunga are great judges...the latter being one of the fairest judges around and you can ask both sides of the divide,he is a great servant of the game and was always prone to waxing philospohical,when that lady from KNHCR was lamenting about the unconstitutional aspect of the laws,she was politely reminded that those unconstitutional laws also outlaw stripping...good guy.
possunt quia posse videntur
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