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Woi is this kipsang the 2.03.guy ama ni another kipsang if its him the athletics forums will roast him
For athletics this was coming the money particularly for the road races is too tempting

The russians are also in a disarray mpaka the one and only savinova has been implicated

A documentary screened on the German TV network MDR on Wednesday night alleges not only that up to “99%” of the Russian Olympic team use doping but also that a network of corruption has been put in place to cover up positive tests, involving officials at the Russian anti-doping agency, the doping control laboratory in Moscow, as well as the International Association of Athletics Federations.

My take now doping is rampant everywhere only that some countries have not been put under the microscope

If doping stops worldwide, i assure you there will be no more records in athletics. The world puts a lot of pressure on sportspersons to be better by day and set high standards as if its a business making profit without considering normal perfomance curve. looking at football & rugby matches fixtures, it leaves a lot to be answered....not enough rest in btwn...wanatoa wapi hiyo energy yoote? In fact we are just beginnig otherwise the east and west started long ago on refined not easily detected dopes...plus corrupting testing officials.

I believe most top Kenyan runners are clean. I know the report suggests there is rampant doping however I think it is mostly amongst low calibre runners who are trying to make it big.

However Rita Jeptoo has thoroughly and utterly ruined the reputation of Kenyan runners worldwide. Now there are reports eti Kenya and Russia are the biggest culprits. Those reports are sensational and false. But Its going to be more and more difficult for people to believe anything. Even Kenyans themselves are much more skeptical now.

In football most of the drug use is performance inhibiting substances and not performance enhancing. First off many Kenyan footballers drink heavily like their fellow Kenyans but they also indulge in miraa and bhangi.

Recovery time is actually better than it was in the 1980s and 1990s when players would play two games every weekend.

In rugby I think most teams in the IRB sevens series are doping. Remember that IRB does not test players out of competition. The difference is that whereas in Kenya it seems drugs were supplied by team management and coaches, in other places, the players are getting the drugs on their own.

Wale wanasema eti IAAF and IOC should stop drug testing wacheni story. If sportsmen get carte blanche to use any kind of dope, people will stop watching sports. The reason athletics has plummetted in popularity from its heights in the 1960s and 1970s is precisely because of doping. Fans want to believe that they are watching actual humans competing not chemically constructed cyborgs.

Secondly, the side effects of doping are such that parents would dissuade their children from taking part in sports. If youth have to dope to succeed they have to ask themselves whether the potential side effects are worth it.

Boys / men may develop:
Prominent breasts , Baldness, Shrunken testicles, Infertility, Impotence

Girls / Women may develop:
A deeper voice, An enlarged clitoris, Increased body hair, Baldness, Infrequent or absent periods

Both men and women might experience:
Severe acne, Increased risk of tendinitis and tendon rupture, Liver abnormalities and tumors
Increased low-density lipoprotein (LDL) , cholesterol (the "bad" cholesterol), Decreased high-density lipoprotein (HDL) , cholesterol (the "good" cholesterol), High blood pressure (hypertension), Heart and circulatory problems, Prostate gland enlargement
Aggressive behaviors, rage or violence
Psychiatric disorders, such as depression
Drug dependence, Infections or diseases such as HIV or hepatitis if you're injecting the drugs
Inhibited growth and development, and risk of future health problems in teenagers

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Note that if drugs become commonplace then even secondary school teams will be encouraging their players to dope. If you are a parent, do you want your children risking those side effects ?

Swali tu

So jeptoo thought she was very clever the way she insisted on tests be done on her B sample
On Friday, Athletics Kenya announced that champion marathoner Rita Jeptoo’s “B” sample confirms a positive doping test for EPO that was first reported on Oct. 31.

Any dip in performance in the next few years by our elite athletes will raise even more suspicions about doping.

But was happened in the past few months cases of doping have really exploded

Additional news reports suggest that Jeptoo's and Gay’s cases are just the tip of the iceberg for track and field and road racing. The bad news has been coming so quickly that it’s been difficult to keep up. Here's a guide to recent accusations of officially sanctioned performance-enhancing drug use and related matters.

The team with better chemicals will win. When fans see their teams constantly losing to teams with better chemicals they will lose interest.

Fans will not stomach losing to a team that is winning, not by skill or natural ability but by having better chemicals.

Secondly, who told you that athletes who are not doping are sub par. I personally do no think Rudisha, Jelimo, Kiptanui et al are doping. And they are hardly sub par. As far back as 1978 there was Henry Rono setting 3 world records in a year.



Chemists are always rushing to produce the next great chemical. When a new chemical is produced, nobody knows the side effects. You speak of EPO but that has been around for a decade. When a new synthetic drug is produced, it is often given t athletes without even knowing the side effects.

Athletes are always using the latest synthetic drug whose side effects they do not understand. Why do you think Flo-Jo died of a heart attack at age 36?



I am not sure what your point is. But two things occur to me:
a. People want to see athletes win by natural ability. They do not like cheats. Kenyans are proud of their athletes now. If they find out its not natural ability but doping, all the pride will go out the window. In fact many Kenyans are starting to lose pride in their athletes now.

b. The champ will not always win if he is competing against a person who is doping.



PEDs do indeed make you a champ.
Lok at Ben Johnson. When he was on steroids he regularly clocked 9.79 and 9.83 for the 100m. When he stopped doping he could not even run below 10.00

Same thing with Dwain Chambers. When he was doping, he ran a career best 9.85. After he was banned and re-0instated, he has never run faster than 10.05.

And Flo Jo would never have won Olympic gold without doping. She was not even good enough to qualify for 100m in 1984 then suddenly in 1988 she was Olympic champ.

And Read the story of Kelli White. Before doping she says she was not even good enough to qualify. Doping made her world champion.

Also doping helps you remain at your best for a longer time. Our own Rita Jeptoo was on the wane. she had gone 6 years without ever winning a city marathon. Her husband says she started doping in 2012. And she went from losing form to winning Chicago and Boston multiple times

Na hizo dopping tings zinauzangwa wapi na pesa ngapi? Ningetaka kumaliza 42km Marathon in less than 5 hrs.

Hii ni kwa sababu they only seem to concentrate on the fast runners. Wengine wetu tunataka tu kumaliza

I change my mind

1. As regards fans, they will support winners, you can say what you want but sport is never fair

2. THE CHAMP WILL ALWAYS BE THE CHAMP, at the point you make it to the 100m finals of a major games you have the genetic disposition to be a champ, drugs give you that extra allowing you to train harder recover faster, funny u mention ben johnson, well every single athlete in the 88 100m finals failed a test before or after that race, including carl lewis

note this: drugs merely are the icing on the cake they allow you to train harder recover faster...steroids are actually said to slow an athlete in an explosive sport down

3. Laughable that you say people like those who win by natural ability? what is natural ability isn't testosterone natural? what is more natural a wind contoured bike and suit or testosterone?

i had the same deluded view point most have on PEDs in sports until i watched the docu BIGGER STRONGER FASTER...watch it and see what i mean

aai!