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Co-operative Bank fate.. discuss
murchr
#21 Posted : Thursday, December 11, 2014 6:51:04 PM
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Am waiting for 20/-then I sell, I interucted with a few employees and realised even understanding a simple email was a problem. Very useless bunch of people
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Kalameni
#22 Posted : Thursday, December 11, 2014 7:20:08 PM
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mckinsey are masters in recommending job cuts wherever they go.They just had to do likewise in coop.Wonder what formula they use to calculate an exit package to the 160 fellows nd will the cost implications affect fy2014 results.




murchr
#23 Posted : Thursday, December 11, 2014 7:26:14 PM
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Kalameni wrote:
mckinsey are masters in recommending job cuts wherever they go.They just had to do likewise in coop.Wonder what formula they use to calculate an exit package to the 160 fellows nd will the cost implications affect fy2014 results.






If 160 managers are axed, then that means even those under the managers are on their way out too. 160 Managers ni wengi sana, that was one bloated workforce
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Bykhovets
#24 Posted : Thursday, December 11, 2014 9:02:35 PM
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Managers? An employee from Co-op has told me that in the last 3 years everyone who has been employed at Co-op was on contract and their entry level was management (even for tellers). Apparently, managers are not supposed to join unions and their contracts had fixed salaries over the duration of the contract. However, there was a union resolution this year that led to all banking employees getting an increase in pay (even for those with fixed contracts). I guess that's why the employees are now being declared redundant. Anyway, Co-op needs more help than just firing employees. Iko shida mahali.
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obiero
#25 Posted : Friday, December 12, 2014 12:35:59 AM
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murchr wrote:
Am waiting for 20/-then I sell, I interucted with a few employees and realised even understanding a simple email was a problem. Very useless bunch of people

U are the useless person.. How come many fairly learned people are having difficulty undertanding one email.. Kuwa mpole uone Raila akiapishwa kuwa rais

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murchr
#26 Posted : Friday, December 12, 2014 12:52:23 AM
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obiero wrote:
murchr wrote:
Am waiting for 20/-then I sell, I interucted with a few employees and realised even understanding a simple email was a problem. Very useless bunch of people

U are the useless person.. How come many fairly learned people are having difficulty undertanding one email.. Kuwa mpole uone Raila akiapishwa kuwa rais


I probably dealt with you haha, but the email was not from me rather a third party asking them to give just one detail officially. They have so much bureaucracy that gets the employees spinning all over their seats. It wasnt until the matter was escalated to a Senior Manager, and I one of the customers taking my feet there, that the issue was kinda resolved. PS it was just one sentence. "Please send us your ****code and ****** number so as to enable us better serve your customers in a more efficient way. Address your letter to the CEO".

PS. Utangoja sana nikuwe mpole.
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Bachuma Gate
#27 Posted : Friday, December 12, 2014 4:35:49 AM
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Majority of these managers are guys who had worked for more than 10years and had risen thru the ranks. They were earning huge salaries and allowances. Few had done more than 25yrs. Its a way cutting costs as the staff who will be performing their tasks are earning much less.
DOH
Boris Boyka
#28 Posted : Friday, December 12, 2014 7:41:23 AM
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Bachuma Gate wrote:
Majority of these managers are guys who had worked for more than 10years and had risen thru the ranks. They were earning huge salaries and allowances. Few had done more than 25yrs. Its a way cutting costs as the staff who will be performing their tasks are earning much less.

In the banking sector you rise faster in ranks to your exit....kwaida then new staff are highered at lower salaries....
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Boris Boyka
#29 Posted : Friday, December 12, 2014 8:59:20 AM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
Bachuma Gate wrote:
Majority of these managers are guys who had worked for more than 10years and had risen thru the ranks. They were earning huge salaries and allowances. Few had done more than 25yrs. Its a way cutting costs as the staff who will be performing their tasks are earning much less.

In the banking sector you rise faster in ranks to your exit....kwaida then new staff are highered at lower salaries....

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Sources within the bank said the sacked employees have been offered a soft landing with a package that includes one-and-
a-half month salary for every year worked and the offsetting of
40 per cent of loans held with the bank.Beneficiaries must, however, pay the remaining 60 per cent immediately.Apart from salaries, other costs associated with bank staff include medical cover, retirement benefits, training expenses
and tax implications of lower priced loans.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
obiero
#30 Posted : Friday, December 12, 2014 2:20:29 PM
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1.5 month pay for each year worked sounds like a raw deal considering 40% loan rebate.. If I recall right, KCB had 100% loan pay off

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