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Proposed security lawQuote:A glaring weakness is the assumption that civil liberties are the obstacle in the fight against terrorism, rather than the failure to enforce laws caused by corruption and incompetence in the security agencies. Quote:Freedom of expression: The Bill publication and distribution of what it calls “obscene, gory or offensive material which is likely to cause fear and alarm to the general public”.
This will become a felony punishable by a fine not exceeding Sh1 million or three years in jail and if it is a media enterprise responsible a Sh5 million fine.
Right to privacy: The Bill gives the National Intelligence Service unlimited powers to tap telephones, and to do so without a court order. In democratic countries, intercepting a person’s private communication is allowed only if it is supervised by a court of law. Currently in Kenya, a warrant from the High Court is required.
Freedom of the media: The Bill seeks to make it an offence to publish or broadcast photographs of victims of terror attacks without the consent of the police or the victim. In the democratic world, the use of such images is regulated by rules of taste and professional standards. It is rare to find a country, perhaps only the most repressive, which requires the media to seek the permission of the police to publish. An offender under this section will be jailed for a maximum of three years or fined up to Sh5 million or both.
Journalists and the media will also need police authority to broadcast or publish “any information which undermines investigations or security operations relating to terrorism”. Quote:Dr Eseli Simiyu (Tongaren) opposed the fast-tracking and reminded his colleagues that years after Jaramogi Oginga Odinga pushed Parliament to pass a law allowing detention without trial, he was its first victim. If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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wanyee wrote:If only the al Jazeera could do a piece a piece on the slavery that goes on in the mid east especially on the pseudo wannabe arabs Al Jazeera is a mouthpiece of a pliant state in the middle east. It is state-funded by the House of Thani, the ruling family of Qatar. Al Jazeera is owned by the government of Qatar. Qatar borders Saudi Arabia to the south and after Saudi Arabia, Qatar is the most conservative society in the Islamic world. Most Qataris adhere to the strict Wahhabi interpretation of Islam. Yet the kind of Islam Alphdoti and Guru want nothing to do with. Alphdoti says they are not true Muslims for being terrorists while Guru says IS will march to there and wipe them out. A view I strongly support and ferociously like. Sharia law is the main source of Qatari legislation according to Qatar's Constitution. There are serious issues with human rights in Qatar yet Al Jazeera purports to be concerned with the same here in Kenia.If I could have it my way, I would wipe Al Jazeera off the air like totally! Then I would burn all the visas ever issued to their employees, yes, and exile them to Qatar. Jail would be too kind for them.
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Muriel wrote:wanyee wrote:If only the al Jazeera could do a piece a piece on the slavery that goes on in the mid east especially on the pseudo wannabe arabs Al Jazeera is a mouthpiece of a pliant state in the middle east. It is state-funded by the House of Thani, the ruling family of Qatar. Al Jazeera is owned by the government of Qatar. Qatar borders Saudi Arabia to the south and after Saudi Arabia, Qatar is the most conservative society in the Islamic world. Most Qataris adhere to the strict Wahhabi interpretation of Islam. Yet the kind of Islam Alphdoti and Guru want nothing to do with. Alphdoti says they are not true Muslims for being terrorists while Guru says IS will march to there and wipe them out. A view I strongly support and ferociously like. Sharia law is the main source of Qatari legislation according to Qatar's Constitution. There are serious issues with human rights in Qatar yet Al Jazeera purports to be concerned with the same here in Kenia.If I could have it my way, I would wipe Al Jazeera off the air like totally! Then I would burn all the visas ever issued to their employees, yes, and exile them to Qatar. Jail would be too kind for them. @Muriel, who radicalized you? Guru or ISIS? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:
@Muriel, who radicalized you? Guru or ISIS?
I like my sister, my brother.
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Muriel wrote:wanyee wrote:If only the al Jazeera could do a piece a piece on the slavery that goes on in the mid east especially on the pseudo wannabe arabs Al Jazeera is a mouthpiece of a pliant state in the middle east. It is state-funded by the House of Thani, the ruling family of Qatar. Al Jazeera is owned by the government of Qatar. Qatar borders Saudi Arabia to the south and after Saudi Arabia, Qatar is the most conservative society in the Islamic world. Most Qataris adhere to the strict Wahhabi interpretation of Islam. Yet the kind of Islam Alphdoti and Guru want nothing to do with. Alphdoti says they are not true Muslims for being terrorists while Guru says IS will march to there and wipe them out. A view I strongly support and ferociously like. Sharia law is the main source of Qatari legislation according to Qatar's Constitution. There are serious issues with human rights in Qatar yet Al Jazeera purports to be concerned with the same here in Kenia.If I could have it my way, I would wipe Al Jazeera off the air like totally! Then I would burn all the visas ever issued to their employees, yes, and exile them to Qatar. Jail would be too kind for them.  well said
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The information war is here with us. A spectre is looming over Kenya, the spectre of terror. Long drawn war on all fronts: The documentary aims to depict the state as an oppressor of Muslims - as voiced by AS in their claim for responsibility (any surprise)? MOha is an amplifier of the physiological warfare by AS and their sympethisers Al Jazeera.
MOTIVE:
1. Demonize the Kenya government and draw sympathy for Jihadists especially after Mandera massacres.
2. Expose critical security infrastructure to AS. Why film Nyati House for almost 2 minutes exposing its structural dimensions,symmetries, windows etc.
Beware, we are at war and the leverage is tilting against motherland. Abetting, assisting enemy combatants against the state is treasonable, such persons should be held as enemy combatants in military camps and be subject to court martial not civil courts. This should be the best tact and strategy in this fight.
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When I wrote in my Faxe state that the next game would be banning Al Jazeera, you can see from the above. Listen gentlemen, everyone has wanted and needed to ban Al Jazeera one way all over the world. Even the USA wanted to ban them. You should have seen the tea party nuts throwing foam all over TV when Al Jazeera said that guys were being tortured. Only yesterday the same foaming right wing nuts said it actually happened. I remember a time when Moi wanted to ban KTN too. Banning media is usually what governments do that have something to hide ineptitude. If you don't want to watch al-jazeera, turn off your TV. But pretending that Al-Jazeera has increased terrorism in Kenya is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. @Rahatupu, go and get your message in order. 1. Either the gov't has terror squads or it doesn't If Al-Jazeera said that there are death squads in the country and it is true, that is not demonising. You can not demonise what is already a demon. If Al-Jazeera was telling a lie, then you should ask all the guys on wazua who have been "supporting" them to cool down as they don't exist. You can't have it both ways. Information does not create terrorists, bad governance does. So fight the right demon. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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alma wrote:When I wrote in my Faxe state that the next game would be banning Al Jazeera, you can see from the above.
Listen gentlemen, everyone has wanted and needed to ban Al Jazeera one way all over the world. Even the USA wanted to ban them. You should have seen the tea party nuts throwing foam all over TV when Al Jazeera said that guys were being tortured. Only yesterday the same foaming right wing nuts said it actually happened. I remember a time when Moi wanted to ban KTN too.
Banning media is usually what governments do that have something to hide ineptitude.
If you don't want to watch al-jazeera, turn off your TV.
But pretending that Al-Jazeera has increased terrorism in Kenya is the most stupid thing I have ever heard.
@Rahatupu, go and get your message in order.
1. Either the gov't has terror squads or it doesn't
If Al-Jazeera said that there are death squads in the country and it is true, that is not demonising. You can not demonise what is already a demon.
If Al-Jazeera was telling a lie, then you should ask all the guys on wazua who have been "supporting" them to cool down as they don't exist.
You can't have it both ways.
Information does not create terrorists, bad governance does.
So fight the right demon. @Alma, I've not called for banning the media or Al Jazeera but rather pointed out the BIGGER agenda/picture they propagate. BTW I have no apologies for the death squads.
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@Rahatupu I disagree with you but respect your position and I won't asked that you be gagged. Every media company has an agenda. Nation's agenda is to sell newspapers with the headline Rairaaaaaa. Standards is finish the CJ....People's is love muthamaki or perish. We don't ask that these trashy headlines are banned. We simply don't buy them. Kenyans are currently being treated like a woman...Foreplay galore before the "big laws" are unleashed. Moha this, Aljazeera that, west this, hate us that....let's change the laws! And you fall in line. At the rate we are going, we may as well ban all weather forecasts that mention heavy rains in Nairobi....this may cause traffic jams. And if we ban them, they won't happen. There are good laws and bad laws, this foreplay has led us to an evil law. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Alma, may I have this dance with you? Please?
I look at the big picture. Al Jazeera is not operating in a vacuum. Neither are the individuals supporting Al Jazeera machines working in a vacuum without emotion or even a personal, political even religious agenda. Also Al Jazeera is not the paragon of unselfish love that they will not seek to advance any, some or even all of their agendas on Kenians or anyone for that matter.
Al Jazeera is state media - for a state where the religious is the overriding, over arching, pervasive influence. For a religion that aims at advancing its cause and numbers the world over. A state that is one of the closest political and military allies of USA. (Take those theatrics of Republicans Tea Party for what they are - theatrics, and with a pinch of salt and spice). I do not watch Al Jazeera. But people who might affect my life and my relative's lives do.
What interest has Al Jazeera, Qataris, have in Kenyan death squads were it not for a common factor of a religion?
If Al Jazeera's intent is not to depict a certain (religious) class of people as being oppressed by their government - a necessary ingredient for 'change' (whatever that eventually would be) in which Qataris can happily support with clean clear consciences as informed by Islam and Mohammed (PBUH), - then the world is upside down.
Remember the over arching influence. The prevention of Al Jazeera broadcasting has its merits.
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