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Co-operative Bank fate.. discuss
Realtreaty
#1 Posted : Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:36:49 PM
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There are 3 Banks that everyone want to bank with due to their regional branch coverage- Co-operative, Equity and KCB. Some people have accounts with either two or three.
Has the maturing of Co-op increase in its effective tax rate tell why it's price has tumbled from best of 26 to now 17.50?
I presummed the bank will not see below 20 Kes again after its steady growth and expansion.
Who is selling and who is buying?
Why the fall in price putting in mind that its a lender to most of the cooperative societies and play a bigger role in other businesses like Agri-business, transport industry,Chamas etc
Please discuss........
mkonomtupu
#2 Posted : Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:50:41 PM
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you drive too many buses on wazua

Co-op needs to get rid of its CEO and also trim its top levels. McKinsey will recommend the same thing they did for KCB i.e. a CEO should not stay more than 7 years and get rid of the managers they are too many. But the recommendations will most likely be shelved for being too radical and the market has discounted the price accordingly

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As part of realising its so-called ‘2015 to 2019 growth strategy’, the Co-op Bank has decided to bring in the expertise of external consultants. Following an internal evaluation of potential candidates the bank’s management choose for the services of McKinsey & Company, the world’s largest and arguably also the most prestigious strategy consultancy. The advisors have been given three months’ time to, based on the growth targets in place, come up with initiatives that will fuel the ambition, including the identification of growth initiatives but also topics aimed at boosting the company’s internal operations.

In a statement, the listed commercial bank says McKinsey’s findings are expected to enhance the bank's growth momentum, improve its organisational structure as well as enhancing operating models and operational efficiency. “The review will benchmark the bank with industry best practice locally and regional,” says Gideon Muriuki, CEO of Co-operative Bank.
Boris Boyka
#3 Posted : Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:55:48 PM
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Realtreaty wrote:
There are 3 Banks that everyone want to bank with due to their regional branch coverage- Co-operative, Equity and KCB. Some people have accounts with either two or three.
Has the maturing of Co-op increase in its effective tax rate tell why it's price has tumbled from best of 26 to now 17.50?
I presummed the bank will not see below 20 Kes again after its steady growth and expansion.
Who is selling and who is buying?
Why the fall in price putting in mind that its a lender to most of the cooperative societies and play a bigger role in other businesses like Agri-business, transport industry,Chamas etc
Please discuss........

Am also perplexed by this horrible stock. I blame Gideon Muriuki.....his strategy is poor. Give J M this green thing and he will make it an Elephant. Upuuus mtupu.
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Boris Boyka
#4 Posted : Tuesday, December 09, 2014 2:59:39 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
you drive too many buses on wazua

Co-op needs to get rid of its CEO and also trim its top levels. McKinsey will recommend the same thing they did for KCB i.e. a CEO should not stay more than 7 years and get rid of the managers they are too many. But the recommendations will most likely be shelved for being too radical and the market has discounted the price accordingly

Quote:
As part of realising its so-called ‘2015 to 2019 growth strategy’, the Co-op Bank has decided to bring in the expertise of external consultants. Following an internal evaluation of potential candidates the bank’s management choose for the services of McKinsey & Company, the world’s largest and arguably also the most prestigious strategy consultancy. The advisors have been given three months’ time to, based on the growth targets in place, come up with initiatives that will fuel the ambition, including the identification of growth initiatives but also topics aimed at boosting the company’s internal operations.

In a statement, the listed commercial bank says McKinsey’s findings are expected to enhance the bank's growth momentum, improve its organisational structure as well as enhancing operating models and operational efficiency. “The review will benchmark the bank with industry best practice locally and regional,” says Gideon Muriuki, CEO of Co-operative Bank.

Applause Applause Applause the C E O, he wants to be "good boy" braaaari him. just like Nai KUNI, Kidero....
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
Ericsson
#5 Posted : Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:20:43 PM
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Its high time he should step down and let somebody else take the mantle and shepherd the bank.
If he is still talking of the strategy 2015-2019 that he wants to implement mr.market will slap the bank.
I had mentioned this before that the only way for the bank is a change in mgt.Somebody who was born when he was becoming ceo is now finishing form four. woiii
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Angelica _ann
#6 Posted : Tuesday, December 09, 2014 6:33:01 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Its high time he should step down and let somebody else take the mantle and shepherd the bank.
If he is still talking of the strategy 2015-2019 that he wants to implement mr.market will slap the bank.
I had mentioned this before that the only way for the bank is a change in mgt.Somebody who was born when he was becoming ceo is now finishing form four. woiii

Hapana yawa, guy took over around 2001 thereabout!!!
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Boris Boyka
#7 Posted : Tuesday, December 09, 2014 7:30:08 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Its high time he should step down and let somebody else take the mantle and shepherd the bank.
If he is still talking of the strategy 2015-2019 that he wants to implement mr.market will slap the bank.
I had mentioned this before that the only way for the bank is a change in mgt.Somebody who was born when he was becoming ceo is now finishing form four. woiii

Hapana yawa, guy took over around 2001 thereabout!!!

that is 15 yrs,huoni siku hizi WATOTO wanamaliza ni at most 16yrs. @Angelica this is true kumbuka tuko dec so watu wako form four already.....Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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Mukiri
#8 Posted : Tuesday, December 09, 2014 9:34:44 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
you drive too many buses on wazua

Co-op needs to get rid of its CEO and also trim its top levels. McKinsey will recommend the same thing they did for KCB i.e. a CEO should not stay more than 7 years and get rid of the managers they are too many. But the recommendations will most likely be shelved for being too radical and the market has discounted the price accordingly

Quote:
As part of realising its so-called ‘2015 to 2019 growth strategy’, the Co-op Bank has decided to bring in the expertise of external consultants. Following an internal evaluation of potential candidates the bank’s management choose for the services of McKinsey & Company, the world’s largest and arguably also the most prestigious strategy consultancy. The advisors have been given three months’ time to, based on the growth targets in place, come up with initiatives that will fuel the ambition, including the identification of growth initiatives but also topics aimed at boosting the company’s internal operations.

In a statement, the listed commercial bank says McKinsey’s findings are expected to enhance the bank's growth momentum, improve its organisational structure as well as enhancing operating models and operational efficiency. “The review will benchmark the bank with industry best practice locally and regional,” says Gideon Muriuki, CEO of Co-operative Bank.

Applause Applause Applause the C E O, he wants to be "good boy" braaaari him. just like Nai KUNI, Kidero....

Gidi is not going anywhere. I know him personally and he plays to win, all being fair in love and war. If Taito stayed as long as he did, in KQ... Kidero went as far as he did with Mumias, don't hold your breath here.

Proverbs 19:21
Ericsson
#9 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:26:34 AM
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After kelele mingi the counter took an about turn today and is back to 18.
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Ericsson
#10 Posted : Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:01:47 AM
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Someone was doing a pump and dump.Now the counter is on a recovery mode to where it was before.
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Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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