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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 985 Location: Dar es salaam,Tanzania
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theking wrote:littledove wrote:obiero wrote:The optimist wrote:@Obiero when should we expect CFC Q3 By laws of Kenya it should not be after 30th of this month, which means it must be tomorrow, incase they have not yet been announced!! they are already out in today daily nation,PAT 4.1B, PBT 5.4, EARNING PER SHARE 24.31 that gives it a PE of 5.1 at a price of 124 right? How do they calculate that EPS ? PAT =4.1B ,Shares=395M ? Someone please educate.
“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/14/2010 Posts: 521 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:The optimist wrote:@Obiero when should we expect CFC Q3 By laws of Kenya it should not be after 30th of this month, which means it must be tomorrow, incase they have not yet been announced!! @Obiero Thanks. Your Accuracy is commendable. We have the results today. 
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,077 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:The optimist wrote:@Obiero when should we expect CFC Q3 By laws of Kenya it should not be after 30th of this month, which means it must be tomorrow, incase they have not yet been announced!! The bank published results today. I do not think the Holdings Firm is obligated to publish every Q. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,077 Location: Nairobi
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Metasploit wrote:theking wrote:littledove wrote:obiero wrote:The optimist wrote:@Obiero when should we expect CFC Q3 By laws of Kenya it should not be after 30th of this month, which means it must be tomorrow, incase they have not yet been announced!! they are already out in today daily nation,PAT 4.1B, PBT 5.4, EARNING PER SHARE 24.31 that gives it a PE of 5.1 at a price of 124 right? How do they calculate that EPS ? PAT =4.1B ,Shares=395M ? Someone please educate. Bank not Holdings. The bank is not listed. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/17/2009 Posts: 1,619
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:The optimist wrote:@Obiero when should we expect CFC Q3 By laws of Kenya it should not be after 30th of this month, which means it must be tomorrow, incase they have not yet been announced!! The bank published results today. I do not think the Holdings Firm is obligated to publish every Q. Correct,the holdng company reports half year and full year.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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VituVingiSana wrote:Metasploit wrote:theking wrote:littledove wrote:obiero wrote:The optimist wrote:@Obiero when should we expect CFC Q3 By laws of Kenya it should not be after 30th of this month, which means it must be tomorrow, incase they have not yet been announced!! they are already out in today daily nation,PAT 4.1B, PBT 5.4, EARNING PER SHARE 24.31 that gives it a PE of 5.1 at a price of 124 right? How do they calculate that EPS ? PAT =4.1B ,Shares=395M ? Someone please educate. Bank not Holdings. The bank is not listed. @vvs you have a good answer but inaweza tatanisha wanjiku. split it that cfc bank is not listed (but under cfc holdings) cfc holdings is listed the PAT is for the bank the EPS is for cfc holdings. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/14/2011 Posts: 834 Location: nairobi
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for wanjiku's like me, what is the EPS for CFC holdings?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/17/2009 Posts: 1,619
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Boris Boyka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Metasploit wrote:theking wrote:littledove wrote:obiero wrote:The optimist wrote:@Obiero when should we expect CFC Q3 By laws of Kenya it should not be after 30th of this month, which means it must be tomorrow, incase they have not yet been announced!! they are already out in today daily nation,PAT 4.1B, PBT 5.4, EARNING PER SHARE 24.31 that gives it a PE of 5.1 at a price of 124 right? How do they calculate that EPS ? PAT =4.1B ,Shares=395M ? Someone please educate. Bank not Holdings. The bank is not listed. @vvs you have a good answer but inaweza tatanisha wanjiku. split it that cfc bank is not listed (but under cfc holdings) cfc holdings is listed the PAT is for the bank the EPS is for cfc holdings. The EPS ,24.31 is for the bank ,the last figure reported for the holding company is 8.49 at half year,at which point the EPS for the bank was 19.01.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,484 Location: nairobi
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@wazua family.. thinking of jumping out of my position in stocks that have rallied in the past two years so as to avoid tax liability due when capital gains tax comes into play.. shrewd or needless??
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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obiero wrote:@wazua family.. thinking of jumping out of my position in stocks that have rallied in the past two years so as to avoid tax liability due when capital gains tax comes into play.. shrewd or needless?? CGT is 5% WHT is 5% you have beeen giving the 5% 1. Shrewd if the stocks likely won't gain by more than 5% by mar/aprl 2. Needless if the stocks will gain with >5% Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:@wazua family.. thinking of jumping out of my position in stocks that have rallied in the past two years so as to avoid tax liability due when capital gains tax comes into play.. shrewd or needless?? 5% on net capital gains is a very small tax. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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obiero wrote:@wazua family.. thinking of jumping out of my position in stocks that have rallied in the past two years so as to avoid tax liability due when capital gains tax comes into play.. shrewd or needless?? Jumping out can be shrewd if you don't plan on jumping in again. But jumping out then back in to the same position is pointless coz you pay 4.2% gross to avoid 5% net and remember there is that 2.1% gross in your second exit.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,484 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:guru267 wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@gatheuzi @kagame @maka asanteni for the confidence in my calls.. albeit latecomers. everyone else here knows my tactics :) btw, im selling some KCB to increase on KQ.. believe it or not What's your take on KQ's PBT? And PAT? Dear All.. I revise my position on KQ from buy to hold with an investment horizon of atleast 2 years. Please note, the current price is the floor of the share and it is unlikely to trade much lower @wazuans kindly mark these words..  Anyone else watched the cartoons and price actions?? Its confirmed that KQ's bottom is KES 7.70.. Despite all negative news, the share is today's biggest gainer Flogging a dead horse. Even a dead horse moves when flogged hard enough. The force exerted by the flogger moves the horse. Hehe. I like that statement.. Im asking no one to join me. Il ride in this plane solo :) That is true. Enjoy. Kenya Airways up by KES 2 in the last few days.. Closing at 9.05 with a high of 9.20.. As seen on HFCK, SCOM, KENRE, CENT; I may not be a master of calling the top but on bottoms I have no equal :)
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,484 Location: nairobi
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closing figures already being finalised for some firms by my good accountant buddies. drinking at the bar starts this evening.. expect results by the weekend
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,484 Location: nairobi
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FY2014 in KES 'B KCB 24.1 EQTY 20.6 SCBK 15.8 BBK 12.8 COOP 12.7 CFC 8.2 NBK 1.9 HFCK 1.5
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/24/2010 Posts: 236 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:FY2014 in KES 'B
KCB 24.1
EQTY 20.6
SCBK 15.8
BBK 12.8
COOP 12.7
CFC 8.2
NBK 1.9
HFCK 1.5 Thanks @obiero for the posting. Do you mean KCB is growing at that fast rate.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,654 Location: NAIROBI
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@innovator KCB is on top notch speed.The banking sphere is for their keep. They are widening the gap with the rest very fast Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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obiero wrote:FY2014 in KES 'B
KCB 24.1
EQTY 20.6
SCBK 15.8
BBK 12.8
COOP 12.7
CFC 8.2
NBK 1.9
HFCK 1.5 Nabii Obiero, hata mbegu sasa tutapanda. Weka namba ya Mpesa hapa wazua
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,180 Location: nairobi
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So kcb and equity are almost as profitable as safcom?? "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,484 Location: nairobi
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mlennyma wrote:So kcb and equity are almost as profitable as safcom?? Half year for SCOM outstrips full year for EQTY..
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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