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Why I support President Uhuru on security
Swenani
#51 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 8:35:34 AM
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Baratang wrote:
mwariama wrote:
@ Baratang,

You've missed the point by a mile, blaming the victims.......

How are you supposed not to bribe a policeman/woman who is threatening to arrest you on trumped up charges?
At what point should I care to report 30 illegal immigrants that are next to me? They've travelled hundreds of kilometers from the border with ''numerous checkpoints'' manned by "competent" government officials. As a citizen, I assume the government system is working and they've been allowed in the country and go on with my work... The problem is the system and not the people. It's the government's work to sort out the systematic problems!

Well, if you want to blame the people, do it on the grounds that they deserve what they get for voting for their failing leaders. The more you're engaging in blaming the citizens, the more you're exposing the government massive shortcomings!!!


I'm suspecting,as someone has said, PSCU have brought their PR war machine to the Republic.....




@ Mwariama

You see friend I do not belong to any political divide and neither do I intend be in anybodies payroll.
Like I suggested before, that we look at what we as citizen have done to assist the government of the day, I still maintain that.

For example, this is what I thought would be coming out:

1 Socially

(a) The citizen responsibility. A local had to know who the neighbour was with no reminder from anybody...We are even opposing the Nyumba Kumi model...Kenyan Rating Failed

(b) It was in law that each and every plot Land Registration (LR) No be conspicuously displayed at the point of entry (gates or doors). I think we have this one here too..Kenyan Rating Failed

(c) If foreigners sought asylum as refugees then they remained in the refugee camp...We can't even question the landlord on why they are bringing people of questionable characters to our midst...Kenyan Rating Failed

(d) The Batswana fear and respect the law. It spares no one, not the rich, not the poor, not the mighty.We have good laws on paper, but we do not respect them...Kenyan Rating Failed.

(e) Botswana was and is still the least corrupt country in Africa. Corruption is the in thing and in most cases we offer the bribes before it is even asked for. Kenyan Rating Failed.

2. Commercially...
(a) A local could and would not sell any land or property to a foreigner. We have sold land to foreigners at double the value...Kenyan Rating Failed.

(b) Any company that intended to buy any property had to have a majority stake owned by citizens. NB majority shareholder meant more than 70%...Kenyan Rating Failed

(c) The labour laws were and are still very strict. No company irrespective of the owners (whether foreign or locally owned) was allowed to employ foreigners in posts whose job skills and expertise was locally available. We have foreigners who can't even read becoming managers. Kenyan Rating Failed

Guys we were only supposed to highlight our (citizens) successes and failures on matters security and not a blame game, just like the one we are used to.

Before I am branded a state house PR machinery for real I am jumping out the ship. Muelewane msielewane, shauri yenu, but one thing is for real and a fact...that we are being screwed by people who are amongst us (and we know them) whom we are offering protection and whom we are not willing to report to the authorities.


I just find it funny that with the examples you have given,you expect wananchi to enforce them but you aren't saying how?How will the citizens make sure that refugees are not leaving the camps? The question should be how and why did the refugees leave the camp in the first place?

If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
KulaRaha
#52 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 8:41:39 AM
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Exactly. So much talk blah blah blah. But not even one practical example of how the citizens can be more involved.

Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
Mukiri
#53 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 11:29:45 AM
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I think all that is supposed to inform us of intended relocation to Botswana. I wonder if it has enough space for the 40 Milli+ of us

Proverbs 19:21
Nandwa
#54 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 11:43:22 AM
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McReggae
#55 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 12:36:32 PM
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Compositions galore!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
washiku
#56 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 4:00:30 PM
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Am wrote:
washiku wrote:
Sad I am now convinced that the biggest threat to our security is that we look at it based on our political affiliations. Sad When thugs rule the city, we are all at risk. We must ALL demand service delivery, more so if we voted the government.


Shame on you Shame on you
Boss you are still pursuing this Pang'ang'a?. Bado Mapambano eeh?????
Isokei.smile smile


@Am, sometimes pang'ang'a ni poa. Seems many Kenyans' pang'ang'as have been listened to.
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