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TAZ
#81 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:31:43 AM
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alma wrote:
Just incase anyone forgot.

In the past 24 hours

1. Some people attacked Kenyans in Wajir a number of Kenyans killed
2. Some people attacked a naval base and killed a naval officer with matchetes
3. Some people attacked a quary and killed Kenyans and kidnapped others

If the media thinks this is a slow news cycle, then we have a problem. If the gov't thinks this is not important news to inform its citizens, why should a citizen report anything?

Houston we have a problem and the ostrich has refused to remove its head from the sand.


The govt has already issued a statement.....

"At about 2am, heavily armed bandits raided a Quarry workers’ camp at Koromey area in the outskirts of Mandera town.

They killed 36 innocent Kenyans.

Survivors of the attack indicate that the bandits numbered some 20 people.

In another incident at 8.30pm last evening, 3 masked gunmen stormed Ngamia Club in Wajir Town and started shooting at random.

Immediately, security forces engaged and repulsed them.

Unfortunately, one Kenyan was killed and 13 others injured in the incident. The injured are being attended to.

The Government sends messages of condolences to the families of those who have lost their dear ones and stands by them during this difficult time.

Investigations are underway in regard to both incidents.

A full statement will be issued in the course of the day."
ecstacy
#82 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:31:47 AM
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Kaigangio wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
NKT. Can't some commentators here resist politicizing every issue?

When attacks are being launched from Daadab and the local town township, I think by now you should appreciate how complex and volatile the place is. What you are facing here is an insurgency with local backing.

Try feign some unity as you deal with a common enemy. You can get back to your goggles later.

I keep feeling these attacks have sympathizers facilitating them. Just a feeling. Which makes everything go bonkers.


@ Jus Blazin

Don't just feel...This is the case believe me and people are too stirred to look at it that way.

Remember just two weeks ago after the masacre of 28 people in Arabiya Mandera, it was reported that the local tycoons were funding these terrorists and the police on the other hand were protecting these fellows (the tycoons and the kebabas)...



Al Shabaab already killing Muslims in Somalia. Let us not get stirred by their insurgency attempts.

They are using tactics as those Al Qaeda successfully used in Iraq in 2005 to stir Sunni v Shia sectarian blood letting. Here the similar strategy is using Muslim v Christian framing with Christians the 'Crusaders'. The sad thing is this is a conflux of ideology in outcomes for political mileage by the local opposition in making the country ungovernable.

Al Shabaab and their proxies first intend to make NE & Coast bases for staging further inland attacks as the oil and infrastructure equations check in, their failure to take off would boost the opposition chances 2017, conflux of desired outcomes in 2017 by the two groups.
Swenani
#83 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:32:12 AM
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washiku wrote:
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/why-president-uhuru-cant-sack-ole-lenku-over-insecurity


The changes are not happening due to political expediency?

Quote:
The decision to suspend the changes is said to have been pushed by a key and powerful security official around the President who believes it is “not necessary and helpful”.

According to sources, this is straining the relationship between Uhuru’s TNA and Deputy President William Ruto’s URP, which has been insisting on the changes


Quote:
Another senior govern- ment official said that re- moving Lenku is both a political and administra- tive decision that must be weighed carefully


Quote:
Enquiries by the Star have established the political backlash that Jubilee expects from removing Lenku is also a key consideration in the matter.

The Maa political class is said to believe that the position belongs to them and they therefore do not see how there can be a CS from another part of the country in the Interior docket.

Talks with the leaders from the area are also said to have stalled after the preferred replacement, Kajiado South MP Joseph Nkaissery, allegedly declined the offer.
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Wainadi
#84 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:35:02 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:

The sadness that has engulfed that village!!!
Its all good.
ecstacy
#85 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:37:16 AM
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Swenani wrote:
washiku wrote:
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/why-president-uhuru-cant-sack-ole-lenku-over-insecurity


The changes are not happening due to political expediency?

Quote:
The decision to suspend the changes is said to have been pushed by a key and powerful security official around the President who believes it is “not necessary and helpful”.

According to sources, this is straining the relationship between Uhuru’s TNA and Deputy President William Ruto’s URP, which has been insisting on the changes


Quote:
Another senior govern- ment official said that re- moving Lenku is both a political and administra- tive decision that must be weighed carefully


Quote:
Enquiries by the Star have established the political backlash that Jubilee expects from removing Lenku is also a key consideration in the matter.

The Maa political class is said to believe that the position belongs to them and they therefore do not see how there can be a CS from another part of the country in the Interior docket.

Talks with the leaders from the area are also said to have stalled after the preferred replacement, Kajiado South MP Joseph Nkaissery, allegedly declined the offer.


Yes, I said it here before and it is for those two admin posts. ODM tried a censor motion and it came to a cropper thanks to threats by the Maasai to decamp from ODM and not even attempt to step into Maasailand during the ODM Okoa Kenya campaigns.

ODM silently withdrew the censure motion.

DO NOT be fooled by their loud posturing.

For short term purposes, the President needs to demand Deputy ‪Ruto‬ nominate 1 ‪Kalenjin‬ and 1 ‪Maasai‬ from ‪URP‬ to act as replacements for ‪‎Kimaiyo‬ and ‪OleLenku‬ respectively as we continue with the mid and long term security solutions.
Kaigangio
#86 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:39:56 AM
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Swenani wrote:
washiku wrote:
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/why-president-uhuru-cant-sack-ole-lenku-over-insecurity


The changes are not happening due to political expediency?

Quote:
The decision to suspend the changes is said to have been pushed by a key and powerful security official around the President who believes it is “not necessary and helpful”.

According to sources, this is straining the relationship between Uhuru’s TNA and Deputy President William Ruto’s URP, which has been insisting on the changes


Quote:
Another senior govern- ment official said that re- moving Lenku is both a political and administra- tive decision that must be weighed carefully


Quote:
Enquiries by the Star have established the political backlash that Jubilee expects from removing Lenku is also a key consideration in the matter.

The Maa political class is said to believe that the position belongs to them and they therefore do not see how there can be a CS from another part of the country in the Interior docket.

Talks with the leaders from the area are also said to have stalled after the preferred replacement, Kajiado South MP Joseph Nkaissery, allegedly declined the offer.


What do you expect from a country with a population of 40 million and 40 million politicians????
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Am
#87 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:45:28 AM
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Joined: 2/21/2012
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harrydre wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
NKT. Can't some commentators here resist politicizing every issue?

When attacks are being launched from Daadab and the local town township, I think by now you should appreciate how complex and volatile the place is. What you are facing here is an insurgency with local backing.

Try feign some unity as you deal with a common enemy. You can get back to your goggles later.

I keep feeling these attacks have sympathizers facilitating them. Just a feeling. Which makes everything go bonkers.


Of course there are. Sad people are dying like this.


Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
washiku
#88 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:45:59 AM
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Wainadi wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:

The sadness that has engulfed that village!!!


The area MP, Kanini Kega just buried two last week. He will go and bury these too...I don't know how many more. That is our constituency. It voted almost 150% for the govt. But they are not supposed to ask questions. Because they "belong" to the govt. And those who ask, hiyo ni pang'ang'a. That is siding with the opposition. What crap is that?
Kaigangio
#89 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:47:19 AM
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Posts: 2,768
ecstacy wrote:
Swenani wrote:
washiku wrote:
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/why-president-uhuru-cant-sack-ole-lenku-over-insecurity


The changes are not happening due to political expediency?

Quote:
The decision to suspend the changes is said to have been pushed by a key and powerful security official around the President who believes it is “not necessary and helpful”.

According to sources, this is straining the relationship between Uhuru’s TNA and Deputy President William Ruto’s URP, which has been insisting on the changes


Quote:
Another senior govern- ment official said that re- moving Lenku is both a political and administra- tive decision that must be weighed carefully


Quote:
Enquiries by the Star have established the political backlash that Jubilee expects from removing Lenku is also a key consideration in the matter.

The Maa political class is said to believe that the position belongs to them and they therefore do not see how there can be a CS from another part of the country in the Interior docket.

Talks with the leaders from the area are also said to have stalled after the preferred replacement, Kajiado South MP Joseph Nkaissery, allegedly declined the offer.


Yes, I said it here before and it is for those two admin posts. ODM tried a censor motion and it came to a cropper thanks to threats by the Maasai to decamp from ODM and not even attempt to step into Maasailand during the ODM Okoa Kenya campaigns.

ODM silently withdrew the censure motion.

DO NOT be fooled by their loud posturing.

For short term purposes, the President needs to demand Deputy ‪Ruto‬ nominate 1 ‪Kalenjin‬ and 1 ‪Maasai‬ from ‪URP‬ to act as replacements for ‪‎Kimaiyo‬ and ‪OleLenku‬ respectively as we continue with the mid and long term security solutions.


That is the biggest mistake that we Kenyans made and we do not want to accept...

We politicised everything and forgot to draw a line between politics and real important issues...

Infact a classic example is wazua...swenani starts a "landing" thread and it ends being Luo vs Kikuyu...Mawinda starts a thread on fish and it ends being Jubilee vs Cord...
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
KulaRaha
#90 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:49:00 AM
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Posts: 6,514


Red line has been crossed a million times, what's the new catchphrase from the PResident?
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
alma
#91 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:50:39 AM
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Posts: 4,432
washiku wrote:
Wainadi wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:

The sadness that has engulfed that village!!!


The area MP, Kanini Kega just buried two last week. He will go and bury these too...I don't know how many more. That is our constituency. It voted almost 150% for the govt. But they are not supposed to ask questions. Because they "belong" to the govt. And those who ask, hiyo ni pang'ang'a. That is siding with the opposition. What crap is that?


Those people will never vote another way. Hata ufanye nini. That's what this gov't is banking on. It's the same as the other side. Rao would do the same thing and nothing would happen.

Wakenya ni wale wale. Hata ufanye nini. You are part of the cyber noise makers who will do nothing but complain.


Tukae vivyo hivyo.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
washiku
#92 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:52:02 AM
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Maybe all non-muslims should leave that place. The locals must be selling them out. There is no way Alshabaab from Somalia will come and know where non-somalis live, which bus they board, where they work...without the co-operation of the locals. Now that the government has clearly demonstrated it cant protect them, afadhali warudi kwao. Uhuru will send Chief of Staff to plead with them to stay, then a few hours after he leaves, they will be killed.
Tokyo
#93 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:54:04 AM
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The only safe Kenyans are prisoners.
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alma
#94 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:54:51 AM
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@TAZ, did that gov't statement just say.....

"heavily armed bandits"?

Seriously? Now people who kill you for not reciting the Quran are now called "heavily armed bandits?"

smhd'oh! d'oh!
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
Angelica _ann
#95 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:55:21 AM
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Kaigangio wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Swenani wrote:
washiku wrote:
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/why-president-uhuru-cant-sack-ole-lenku-over-insecurity


The changes are not happening due to political expediency?

Quote:
The decision to suspend the changes is said to have been pushed by a key and powerful security official around the President who believes it is “not necessary and helpful”.

According to sources, this is straining the relationship between Uhuru’s TNA and Deputy President William Ruto’s URP, which has been insisting on the changes


Quote:
Another senior govern- ment official said that re- moving Lenku is both a political and administra- tive decision that must be weighed carefully


Quote:
Enquiries by the Star have established the political backlash that Jubilee expects from removing Lenku is also a key consideration in the matter.

The Maa political class is said to believe that the position belongs to them and they therefore do not see how there can be a CS from another part of the country in the Interior docket.

Talks with the leaders from the area are also said to have stalled after the preferred replacement, Kajiado South MP Joseph Nkaissery, allegedly declined the offer.


Yes, I said it here before and it is for those two admin posts. ODM tried a censor motion and it came to a cropper thanks to threats by the Maasai to decamp from ODM and not even attempt to step into Maasailand during the ODM Okoa Kenya campaigns.

ODM silently withdrew the censure motion.

DO NOT be fooled by their loud posturing.

For short term purposes, the President needs to demand Deputy ‪Ruto‬ nominate 1 ‪Kalenjin‬ and 1 ‪Maasai‬ from ‪URP‬ to act as replacements for ‪‎Kimaiyo‬ and ‪OleLenku‬ respectively as we continue with the mid and long term security solutions.


That is the biggest mistake that we Kenyans made and we do not want to accept...

We politicised everything and forgot to draw a line between politics and real important issues...

Infact a classic example is wazua...swenani starts a "landing" thread and it ends being Luo vs Kikuyu...Mawinda starts a thread on fish and it ends being Jubilee vs Cord...

Kumbe politics is very hard. We are still using this tribal methods/systems. I had hoped that UMK will move us out of this, kumbe Kenya is a hard place to rule!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
harrydre
#96 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:58:09 AM
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I say close Daadab and send all those kebabs back to Somalia. Close and man that border all the way Mandera to Lamu. Both aerial and ground. What's so hard with that Mr. President? Issue some executive order!!!
i.am.back!!!!
Lolest!
#97 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:58:22 AM
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Sad Time for Kenya to bite the bullet and exit that rough godforsaken country

We can always find a 'non-cowardly' reason for exiting e.g. Financial resource strain, need to deploy soldiers locally for various duties esp in the north and manning our borders etc

You will not solve the issue by sacking Ole Lenku or Kimiyo
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ecstacy
#98 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:58:55 AM
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When we had Gen Ali handling security the loud useless fellows orchestrated his appearance at the ICC Hague courts via their proxies at the KNHRC. Now they are asking for someone like him?!!! No wonder Nkaissery turned down the job offer.
ecstacy
#99 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:01:12 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2008
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Swenani wrote:
washiku wrote:
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/why-president-uhuru-cant-sack-ole-lenku-over-insecurity


The changes are not happening due to political expediency?

Quote:
The decision to suspend the changes is said to have been pushed by a key and powerful security official around the President who believes it is “not necessary and helpful”.

According to sources, this is straining the relationship between Uhuru’s TNA and Deputy President William Ruto’s URP, which has been insisting on the changes


Quote:
Another senior govern- ment official said that re- moving Lenku is both a political and administra- tive decision that must be weighed carefully


Quote:
Enquiries by the Star have established the political backlash that Jubilee expects from removing Lenku is also a key consideration in the matter.

The Maa political class is said to believe that the position belongs to them and they therefore do not see how there can be a CS from another part of the country in the Interior docket.

Talks with the leaders from the area are also said to have stalled after the preferred replacement, Kajiado South MP Joseph Nkaissery, allegedly declined the offer.


Yes, I said it here before and it is for those two admin posts. ODM tried a censor motion and it came to a cropper thanks to threats by the Maasai to decamp from ODM and not even attempt to step into Maasailand during the ODM Okoa Kenya campaigns.

ODM silently withdrew the censure motion.

DO NOT be fooled by their loud posturing.

For short term purposes, the President needs to demand Deputy ‪Ruto‬ nominate 1 ‪Kalenjin‬ and 1 ‪Maasai‬ from ‪URP‬ to act as replacements for ‪‎Kimaiyo‬ and ‪OleLenku‬ respectively as we continue with the mid and long term security solutions.


That is the biggest mistake that we Kenyans made and we do not want to accept...

We politicised everything and forgot to draw a line between politics and real important issues...

Infact a classic example is wazua...swenani starts a "landing" thread and it ends being Luo vs Kikuyu...Mawinda starts a thread on fish and it ends being Jubilee vs Cord...

Kumbe politics is very hard. We are still using this tribal methods/systems. I had hoped that UMK will move us out of this, kumbe Kenya is a hard place to rule!


Then the few approached who can do the job reject the offer smile It takes a absolute patriot ready for retirement to take over these posts. The complexities at the moment are madness.
washiku
#100 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:01:51 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Sad Time for Kenya to bite the bullet and exit that rough godforsaken country

We can always find a 'non-cowardly' reason for exiting e.g. Financial resource strain, need to deploy soldiers locally for various duties esp in the north and manning our borders etc

You will not solve the issue by sacking Ole Lenku or Kimiyo


After all Somali the state that we are trying to protect are not even our friends anymore, didn't they just take us to ICC recently?
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