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Maize politics
jaggernaut
#1 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 1:35:32 PM
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http://www.the-star.co.k...-rift-maize-says-koskei

The North Rift maize farmers shouldn't hold the govt hostage. Now they are even dictating prices that govt (read tax payers) should buy. NB the NCPB depots are still full of last yrs maize. Why should a bag of maize be selling at 800 bob in Uganda while it is 3000 bob on the other side of the border in kenya? Maize should be left to market forces like all other commodities. That way the price of unga will come down to 50 bob per 2kg.

kimiri
#2 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 3:07:32 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/move-rift-maize-says-koskei

The North Rift maize farmers shouldn't hold the govt hostage. Now they are even dictating prices that govt (read tax payers) should buy. NB the NCPB depots are still full of last yrs maize. Why should a bag of maize be selling at 800 bob in Uganda while it is 3000 bob on the other side of the border in kenya? Maize should be left to market forces like all other commodities. That way the price of unga will come down to 50 bob per 2kg.



It is not as simple as that. Both producers and consumers are Kenyans and the GOK is duty bound to safeguard the welfare of both. To be honest, K.Sh.800 per 90kg bag does not cover even half of the production costs. If we wish our farmers to continue producing maize, a price south of K.Sh2,500 a bag is demotivating. Note that being food self-sufficient is not only a matter of national pride but also security. Recall, a while ago when Tanzania was blocking movement of their maize into Kenya allegedly because they also did not have enough. Before this, somebody had tried to sneak a ship load of aflatoxin maize in to the country.
Angelica _ann
#3 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 3:40:49 PM
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The gava gave them fertaliser and machinery and they produced as required. The farmers have done their part, now let the gava buy the maize to put in grain reserves period!
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kingfisher
#4 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 4:02:18 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
The gava gave them fertaliser and machinery and they produced as required. The farmers have done their part, now let the gava buy the maize to put in grain reserves period!


were they producing for gava???

why doesnt gava buy rice, wheat, coffee, beans etc etc? hii mapendeleo iishe kabisa
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Swenani
#5 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 4:07:14 PM
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kingfisher wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
The gava gave them fertaliser and machinery and they produced as required. The farmers have done their part, now let the gava buy the maize to put in grain reserves period!


were they producing for gava???

why doesnt gava buy rice, wheat, coffee, beans etc etc? hii mapendeleo iishe kabisa



All those you have highlighted are only used to prepare snacks as you wait to eat the real food?

Why would government waste money buying rice(who eats rice anyway?)?Coffee ni ya wazungu na Kysse!
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Tebes
#6 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 4:15:55 PM
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Willing buyer willing seller
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otienosmall
#7 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 6:14:54 PM
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A 50kg bag of DAP goes for KSh 3,000 in retail. The government provided subsidized fertilizer which was going for KSh 2,200, however this was quietly siphoned by the big guns e.g. in the Nakuru depot a good portion of that consignment ended up in Kabarak farm of MO1; so most farmers did not benefit from the government subsidies. 25kg of certified seeds were selling at KSh 3,500. When you compound all these together with labor and machinery, the cost of producing a 90 kg bag of maize becomes very high in comparison to someone farming in UG or TZ. DAP in UG is approximately KSh 1,000; ironically that too was shipped through the Mombasa port. Considering the high cost of farming in Kenya probably as a results of high Duty, VAT and other Taxes, it’s cheaper for us to stop farming and become net importers of food stuff.
Angelica _ann
#8 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 7:00:10 PM
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Tebes wrote:
Willing buyer willing seller

Middle men are also a problem!!!!!!!!!!
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kiash
#9 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 7:24:44 PM
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otienosmall wrote:
A 50kg bag of DAP goes for KSh 3,000 in retail. The government provided subsidized fertilizer which was going for KSh 2,200, however this was quietly siphoned by the big guns e.g. in the Nakuru depot a good portion of that consignment ended up in Kabarak farm of MO1; so most farmers did not benefit from the government subsidies. 25kg of certified seeds were selling at KSh 3,500. When you compound all these together with labor and machinery, the cost of producing a 90 kg bag of maize becomes very high in comparison to someone farming in UG or TZ. DAP in UG is approximately KSh 1,000; ironically that too was shipped through the Mombasa port. Considering the high cost of farming in Kenya probably as a results of high Duty, VAT and other Taxes, it’s cheaper for us to stop farming and become net importers of food stuff.



Accept and move on. How come the DAP is cheaper in UG than Kenya after making the trip all the way from Mbsa ? Just like fuel,accept and move on
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kysse
#10 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 8:02:20 PM
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Swenani wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
The gava gave them fertaliser and machinery and they produced as required. The farmers have done their part, now let the gava buy the maize to put in grain reserves period!


were they producing for gava???

why doesnt gava buy rice, wheat, coffee, beans etc etc? hii mapendeleo iishe kabisa



All those you have highlighted are only used to prepare snacks as you wait to eat the real food?

Why would government waste money buying rice(who eats rice anyway?)?Coffee ni ya wazungu na Kysse!


Uuuuwii eti gava to buy coffee?Pray Please usiharibie farmers na kessy starehe.




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