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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:When I say ' mass man' this is exactly what I mean. Now you think I should conform to your preferences to engage. And that's how most of us live. The consequence? A radical kind of individualism that has no sense of collective responsibility. That's why you think that with votes and taxes all should be well.  Those two words makes me laugh!!! Lakini tycho,jaribu ku explain na swahili! Mambo yako ya security uliza yule amekupatia 'right to life'. 'To Caesar what's Caesar's and to God, what's God's'. Josephus says that during Christ's time there was as much insecurity as now. The 'Sicarii' could stab you at any time. Rebellion was high. And the citizens knew not how to live. That's why in their own Wazua speak they asked the question.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2012 Posts: 1,461 Location: Ngong Forest
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Truth be told,we are back to the Kanu days where police resources are used for personal good and NOT for the good of the community.
Those 2000 plus cars police were provided with are used for personal gains,ask anyone in ngong town and rongai,the posh cars + ranger for ocpd use with their kingsmen,the lorry to round innocent people at bus stage and bars for a fee of 1000 cash bail,that they store in their houses with no paper work.
Uhuru is right kila mtu ajipange, see you 2017 if lucky to be there!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Ngong wrote:Truth be told,we are back to the Kanu days where police resources are used for personal good and NOT for the good of the community.
Those 2000 plus cars police were provided with are used for personal gains,ask anyone in ngong town and rongai,the posh cars + ranger for ocpd use with their kingsmen,the lorry to round innocent people at bus stage and bars for a fee of 1000 cash bail,that they store in their houses with no paper work.
Uhuru is right kila mtu ajipange, see you 2017 if lucky to be there!
There's no way the police can be effective in a country like Kenya. The community doesn't exist. The society has taken over and demands a ruthless money minded ethic. Survival. These aren't KANU days, these are the 'end times', where only radical change of outlook can do.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:When I say ' mass man' this is exactly what I mean. Now you think I should conform to your preferences to engage. And that's how most of us live. The consequence? A radical kind of individualism that has no sense of collective responsibility. That's why you think that with votes and taxes all should be well. Those two words makes me laugh!!! Lakini tycho,jaribu ku explain na swahili! Mambo yako ya security uliza yule amekupatia 'right to life'.
'To Caesar what's Caesar's and to God, what's God's'. Josephus says that during Christ's time there was as much insecurity as now. The 'Sicarii' could stab you at any time. Rebellion was high. And the citizens knew not how to live. That's why in their own Wazua speak they asked the question. So God is the sole provider of security? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:When I say ' mass man' this is exactly what I mean. Now you think I should conform to your preferences to engage. And that's how most of us live. The consequence? A radical kind of individualism that has no sense of collective responsibility. That's why you think that with votes and taxes all should be well. Those two words makes me laugh!!! Lakini tycho,jaribu ku explain na swahili! Mambo yako ya security uliza yule amekupatia 'right to life'.
'To Caesar what's Caesar's and to God, what's God's'. Josephus says that during Christ's time there was as much insecurity as now. The 'Sicarii' could stab you at any time. Rebellion was high. And the citizens knew not how to live. That's why in their own Wazua speak they asked the question. So God is the sole provider of security? Yes @swenani. Those rights in the 'bill of rights' are not given by the state, so how can state guarantee what it doesn't give in the first place?
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:When I say ' mass man' this is exactly what I mean. Now you think I should conform to your preferences to engage. And that's how most of us live. The consequence? A radical kind of individualism that has no sense of collective responsibility. That's why you think that with votes and taxes all should be well. Those two words makes me laugh!!! Lakini tycho,jaribu ku explain na swahili! Mambo yako ya security uliza yule amekupatia 'right to life'.
'To Caesar what's Caesar's and to God, what's God's'. Josephus says that during Christ's time there was as much insecurity as now. The 'Sicarii' could stab you at any time. Rebellion was high. And the citizens knew not how to live. That's why in their own Wazua speak they asked the question. So God is the sole provider of security? Yes @swenani. Those rights in the 'bill of rights' are not given by the state, so how can state guarantee what it doesn't give in the first place? Who will preach this God to the Al shabaab? @Alph? Tycho?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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washiku wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:When I say ' mass man' this is exactly what I mean. Now you think I should conform to your preferences to engage. And that's how most of us live. The consequence? A radical kind of individualism that has no sense of collective responsibility. That's why you think that with votes and taxes all should be well. Those two words makes me laugh!!! Lakini tycho,jaribu ku explain na swahili! Mambo yako ya security uliza yule amekupatia 'right to life'.
'To Caesar what's Caesar's and to God, what's God's'. Josephus says that during Christ's time there was as much insecurity as now. The 'Sicarii' could stab you at any time. Rebellion was high. And the citizens knew not how to live. That's why in their own Wazua speak they asked the question. So God is the sole provider of security? Yes @swenani. Those rights in the 'bill of rights' are not given by the state, so how can state guarantee what it doesn't give in the first place? Who will preach this God to the Al shabaab? @Alph? Tycho? The one who knows his self. That's why knowing the self is a citizen's first responsibility.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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ecstacy wrote:Nandwa wrote:Am wrote:ecstacy wrote:Beyond taxes, the solution still involves YOU. So as we continue pulling hairs, the President's statement was factual as regards the blame game. The timing of the statement definitely wasn't. TRUE.  How about a situation where the taxes dont seem to count for much! I think I would believe this Mandera Governor. Before someone is fired, I'd wish to get the side of those he talked to. We can then see where the buck stops and act decisively. He said he warned "police officers". Whom did he talk to? Was it in official capacity? Do you believe police were informed of this and just went home to sleep?.. Let us get to the underlying issues. Their silence over that aspect has been deafening! Does that tell us something!! Are you saying that their performance has been so exemplary that there is no way they would have slept on the job here!! IPOA Report blames police over Mpeketoni raids Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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@Washiku, see how much indoctrinated you are to think that your source of inalienable rights needs to be 'preached'. And especially to others, who, you think are wayward. It's a pity really, the kind of citizens that we have.
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