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Shabaab suspects ambush bus near Mandera, kill 28
McReggae
#81 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 3:37:21 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#82 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 3:44:49 PM
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McReggae wrote:


That didn't take too long to be bursted, kumbe this are 2 year old photo's. Kweli Kenya iko chida.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Muriel
#83 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 3:49:23 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
McReggae wrote:


That didn't take too long to be bursted, kumbe this are 2 year old photo's. Kweli Kenya iko chida.


Your rapid and instantaneous recovery and rehabilitation is remarkable.

Never ever become 'desperate' for 'anything' again.
Obi 1 Kanobi
#84 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 3:54:55 PM
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Muriel wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
McReggae wrote:


That didn't take too long to be bursted, kumbe this are 2 year old photo's. Kweli Kenya iko chida.


Your rapid and instantaneous recovery and rehabilitation is remarkable.

Never ever become 'desperate' for 'anything' again.

@Muriel, who said I am recovered, if anything the desperation just got worse.

Atleast Uhuru had a good weekend enjoying f1 in Bahrain
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Kratos
#85 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 3:55:04 PM
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The way i understand it, is we have homegrown terrorists and those coming from Somalia and lastly their sympathizers right here.
To improve the security situation in the country there needs to be more effort from the citizenry to come forward with information no matter how irrelevant they think it is. Case in point, during the lamu attacks it is well documented that some of the attackers spoke fluent Swahili. That means some were Kenyans. From which families, neighbourhoods and clans did they come from? Is it possible that none of their relatives and friends never noticed that they had become militant? Then there are the sympathizers who provide logistical support e.g how did the foreign bandits gain entry into the country.
A good example on how to fight this evil is to use similar tactics as used on the mungiki and sdlf. Let the local communities support the operation without coming up with excuses about profiling and human rights. If they're not willing round everyone up and weed them out and gather information on those with suspected links. The buggers must be celebrating on how we have turned on each other instead of focusing on them.My two Zim dollars

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
Obi 1 Kanobi
#86 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 4:04:40 PM
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Kratos wrote:
The way i understand it, is we have homegrown terrorists and those coming from Somalia and lastly their sympathizers right here.
To improve the security situation in the country there needs to be more effort from the citizenry to come forward with information no matter how irrelevant they think it is. Case in point, during the lamu attacks it is well documented that some of the attackers spoke fluent Swahili. That means some were Kenyans. From which families, neighbourhoods and clans did they come from? Is it possible that none of their relatives and friends never noticed that they had become militant? Then there are the sympathizers who provide logistical support e.g how did the foreign bandits gain entry into the country.
A good example on how to fight this evil is to use similar tactics as used on the mungiki and sdlf. Let the local communities support the operation without coming up with excuses about profiling and human rights. If they're not willing round everyone up and weed them out and gather information on those with suspected links. The buggers must be celebrating on how we have turned on each other instead of focusing on them.My two Zim dollars


@kratos, in summary, the major challenge is that there is no one to coordinate a response to the issues as you have detailed above.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
AlphDoti
#87 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 4:23:58 PM
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Kratos wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Kratos wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
So now we are quick to believe the Kebabs and dismiss KDF? Enyewe tuko down tu sana.

Machozi should be serious, PR stunts will not improve security in this country

Quote:
"KDF has killed 100 of the 15 attackers who butchered 28 Kenyan's in Mandera" DP Ruto.

As for Shabaab, it's we saw the dead bodies, they don't have to say anything!!!

@ McR, the military the world over doesn't work like that i.e. parading bodies of their enemies to show accomplishment. Remember Mt. Elgon? Did you see dead bodies of combatants?

Lets not play into the hands of these terrorists by believing their propaganda more than we can believe the government. War is half propaganda and half action.

So why have they attempted to display pictures that are irrelevant to this particular event!!!!....it takes a lot of effort to have many citizens believing in what the shabaabs say and taking what the garment is saying with a pinch of salt, tells how low we have fell in matters security!!!!

One thing for sure that Kenyans fail to understand or pretend not to, is that it does not matter who holds the security docket, which army general is leading or even who is the president: So long as terrorists and their apologists (alphadoti and the likes) are around we will continue to suffer.
Israel has one of the best security apparatus in the world and every now and then they get bombed into smithereens. How about a country like Kenya? Tuwache mchezo the fight does not begin at the top, it starts with the likes of alphadoti et al who know who the terrorists are and where they are.

@kratos, you're such an entertainer. You mean I'm more informed than the so called intelligence, sometimes you flatter me too much Laughing out loudly Pray
Muriel
#88 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 4:32:21 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
McReggae wrote:


That didn't take too long to be bursted, kumbe this are 2 year old photo's. Kweli Kenya iko chida.


Your rapid and instantaneous recovery and rehabilitation is remarkable.

Never ever become 'desperate' for 'anything' again.

@Muriel, who said I am recovered, if anything the desperation just got worse.

Atleast Uhuru had a good weekend enjoying f1 in Bahrain


You said so.

Your noting of how a weekend was spent to me is indicative of recovery. So is noting the staleness of photos being presented as fresh.

This new 'desperation', believe it or not, is totally like belling the cat.
Kratos
#89 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 4:36:10 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Kratos wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Kratos wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
So now we are quick to believe the Kebabs and dismiss KDF? Enyewe tuko down tu sana.

Machozi should be serious, PR stunts will not improve security in this country

Quote:
"KDF has killed 100 of the 15 attackers who butchered 28 Kenyan's in Mandera" DP Ruto.

As for Shabaab, it's we saw the dead bodies, they don't have to say anything!!!

@ McR, the military the world over doesn't work like that i.e. parading bodies of their enemies to show accomplishment. Remember Mt. Elgon? Did you see dead bodies of combatants?

Lets not play into the hands of these terrorists by believing their propaganda more than we can believe the government. War is half propaganda and half action.

So why have they attempted to display pictures that are irrelevant to this particular event!!!!....it takes a lot of effort to have many citizens believing in what the shabaabs say and taking what the garment is saying with a pinch of salt, tells how low we have fell in matters security!!!!

One thing for sure that Kenyans fail to understand or pretend not to, is that it does not matter who holds the security docket, which army general is leading or even who is the president: So long as terrorists and their apologists (alphadoti and the likes) are around we will continue to suffer.
Israel has one of the best security apparatus in the world and every now and then they get bombed into smithereens. How about a country like Kenya? Tuwache mchezo the fight does not begin at the top, it starts with the likes of alphadoti et al who know who the terrorists are and where they are.

@kratos, you're such an entertainer. You mean I'm more informed than the so called intelligence, sometimes you flatter me too much Laughing out loudly Pray


Forgive me but there is nothing funny about Kenyans being massacred with the help of sympathizers like you.

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
AlphDoti
#90 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 4:59:47 PM
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Kratos wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Kratos wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Kratos wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
So now we are quick to believe the Kebabs and dismiss KDF? Enyewe tuko down tu sana.

Machozi should be serious, PR stunts will not improve security in this country

Quote:
"KDF has killed 100 of the 15 attackers who butchered 28 Kenyan's in Mandera" DP Ruto.

As for Shabaab, it's we saw the dead bodies, they don't have to say anything!!!

@ McR, the military the world over doesn't work like that i.e. parading bodies of their enemies to show accomplishment. Remember Mt. Elgon? Did you see dead bodies of combatants?

Lets not play into the hands of these terrorists by believing their propaganda more than we can believe the government. War is half propaganda and half action.

So why have they attempted to display pictures that are irrelevant to this particular event!!!!....it takes a lot of effort to have many citizens believing in what the shabaabs say and taking what the garment is saying with a pinch of salt, tells how low we have fell in matters security!!!!

One thing for sure that Kenyans fail to understand or pretend not to, is that it does not matter who holds the security docket, which army general is leading or even who is the president: So long as terrorists and their apologists (alphadoti and the likes) are around we will continue to suffer.
Israel has one of the best security apparatus in the world and every now and then they get bombed into smithereens. How about a country like Kenya? Tuwache mchezo the fight does not begin at the top, it starts with the likes of alphadoti et al who know who the terrorists are and where they are.

@kratos, you're such an entertainer. You mean I'm more informed than the so called intelligence, sometimes you flatter me too much Laughing out loudly Pray

Forgive me but there is nothing funny about Kenyans being massacred with the help of sympathizers like you.

@kratos, to be fair I'm not privy of intelligence. If I did, then you're saying I'm more informed than the govt, which is laughable. Surely, a drowning man will clutch at straws.
Kratos
#91 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 5:08:35 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Kratos wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Kratos wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Kratos wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
So now we are quick to believe the Kebabs and dismiss KDF? Enyewe tuko down tu sana.

Machozi should be serious, PR stunts will not improve security in this country

Quote:
"KDF has killed 100 of the 15 attackers who butchered 28 Kenyan's in Mandera" DP Ruto.

As for Shabaab, it's we saw the dead bodies, they don't have to say anything!!!

@ McR, the military the world over doesn't work like that i.e. parading bodies of their enemies to show accomplishment. Remember Mt. Elgon? Did you see dead bodies of combatants?

Lets not play into the hands of these terrorists by believing their propaganda more than we can believe the government. War is half propaganda and half action.

So why have they attempted to display pictures that are irrelevant to this particular event!!!!....it takes a lot of effort to have many citizens believing in what the shabaabs say and taking what the garment is saying with a pinch of salt, tells how low we have fell in matters security!!!!

One thing for sure that Kenyans fail to understand or pretend not to, is that it does not matter who holds the security docket, which army general is leading or even who is the president: So long as terrorists and their apologists (alphadoti and the likes) are around we will continue to suffer.
Israel has one of the best security apparatus in the world and every now and then they get bombed into smithereens. How about a country like Kenya? Tuwache mchezo the fight does not begin at the top, it starts with the likes of alphadoti et al who know who the terrorists are and where they are.

@kratos, you're such an entertainer. You mean I'm more informed than the so called intelligence, sometimes you flatter me too much Laughing out loudly Pray

Forgive me but there is nothing funny about Kenyans being massacred with the help of sympathizers like you.

@kratos, to be fair I'm not privy of intelligence. If I did, then you're saying I'm more informed than the govt, which is laughable. Surely, a drowning man will clutch at straws.


Sorry to have expected an intelligent response. Perhaps you have no idea what a sympathizer is. Look it up, some things are free you know.

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
Kratos
#92 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 5:42:15 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Kratos wrote:
The way i understand it, is we have homegrown terrorists and those coming from Somalia and lastly their sympathizers right here.
To improve the security situation in the country there needs to be more effort from the citizenry to come forward with information no matter how irrelevant they think it is. Case in point, during the lamu attacks it is well documented that some of the attackers spoke fluent Swahili. That means some were Kenyans. From which families, neighbourhoods and clans did they come from? Is it possible that none of their relatives and friends never noticed that they had become militant? Then there are the sympathizers who provide logistical support e.g how did the foreign bandits gain entry into the country.
A good example on how to fight this evil is to use similar tactics as used on the mungiki and sdlf. Let the local communities support the operation without coming up with excuses about profiling and human rights. If they're not willing round everyone up and weed them out and gather information on those with suspected links. The buggers must be celebrating on how we have turned on each other instead of focusing on them.My two Zim dollars


@kratos, in summary, the major challenge is that there is no one to coordinate a response to the issues as you have detailed above.


In my view the main challenge is that as a society we need to do more than just wait for the government or anyone else for that matter. Its the little things that we can do personally. Remember that video footage of a bag left at JKIA unattended? No one cared enough to let the authorities know, in fact no one noticed anything wrong with the picture.
I believe that the main reason as to why its harder to attack countries like the US is that the citizenry there distrust strangers. To join a club you need to be introduced, to move into a neighbourhood there is some sort of background check. Here we call it profiling, there they call it collecting intelligence(information). You don't necessarily need a good police chief to report suspicious activity or report your relative anonymously whom you suspect is into the business of terror.
I think if as a society we have done our part only then can we point fingers outwards. The day someone will come out and say "hey! I called the police regarding those guys there and nothing was done about it"

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
AlphDoti
#93 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 6:38:47 PM
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Kratos wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Kratos wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Kratos wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Kratos wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
So now we are quick to believe the Kebabs and dismiss KDF? Enyewe tuko down tu sana.

Machozi should be serious, PR stunts will not improve security in this country

Quote:
"KDF has killed 100 of the 15 attackers who butchered 28 Kenyan's in Mandera" DP Ruto.

As for Shabaab, it's we saw the dead bodies, they don't have to say anything!!!

@ McR, the military the world over doesn't work like that i.e. parading bodies of their enemies to show accomplishment. Remember Mt. Elgon? Did you see dead bodies of combatants?

Lets not play into the hands of these terrorists by believing their propaganda more than we can believe the government. War is half propaganda and half action.

So why have they attempted to display pictures that are irrelevant to this particular event!!!!....it takes a lot of effort to have many citizens believing in what the shabaabs say and taking what the garment is saying with a pinch of salt, tells how low we have fell in matters security!!!!

One thing for sure that Kenyans fail to understand or pretend not to, is that it does not matter who holds the security docket, which army general is leading or even who is the president: So long as terrorists and their apologists (alphadoti and the likes) are around we will continue to suffer.
Israel has one of the best security apparatus in the world and every now and then they get bombed into smithereens. How about a country like Kenya? Tuwache mchezo the fight does not begin at the top, it starts with the likes of alphadoti et al who know who the terrorists are and where they are.

@kratos, you're such an entertainer. You mean I'm more informed than the so called intelligence, sometimes you flatter me too much Laughing out loudly Pray

Forgive me but there is nothing funny about Kenyans being massacred with the help of sympathizers like you.

@kratos, to be fair I'm not privy of intelligence. If I did, then you're saying I'm more informed than the govt, which is laughable. Surely, a drowning man will clutch at straws.

Sorry to have expected an intelligent response. Perhaps you have no idea what a sympathizer is. Look it up, some things are free you know.

@kratos, don't try and blame me for the failure of security in the country.

Saying I know those carrying out attacks is just laughable. In this time and age of information, what effort does the govt need to gather intelligence!

I will continue to say the govt needs to deal with issues affecting society, social issues, idle youth etc.

And I will continue to criticize. It is up to you say I'm being a sympathizer.
Obi 1 Kanobi
#94 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 6:44:45 PM
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Kratos wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Kratos wrote:
The way i understand it, is we have homegrown terrorists and those coming from Somalia and lastly their sympathizers right here.
To improve the security situation in the country there needs to be more effort from the citizenry to come forward with information no matter how irrelevant they think it is. Case in point, during the lamu attacks it is well documented that some of the attackers spoke fluent Swahili. That means some were Kenyans. From which families, neighbourhoods and clans did they come from? Is it possible that none of their relatives and friends never noticed that they had become militant? Then there are the sympathizers who provide logistical support e.g how did the foreign bandits gain entry into the country.
A good example on how to fight this evil is to use similar tactics as used on the mungiki and sdlf. Let the local communities support the operation without coming up with excuses about profiling and human rights. If they're not willing round everyone up and weed them out and gather information on those with suspected links. The buggers must be celebrating on how we have turned on each other instead of focusing on them.My two Zim dollars


@kratos, in summary, the major challenge is that there is no one to coordinate a response to the issues as you have detailed above.


In my view the main challenge is that as a society we need to do more than just wait for the government or anyone else for that matter. Its the little things that we can do personally. Remember that video footage of a bag left at JKIA unattended? No one cared enough to let the authorities know, in fact no one noticed anything wrong with the picture.
I believe that the main reason as to why its harder to attack countries like the US is that the citizenry there distrust strangers. To join a club you need to be introduced, to move into a neighbourhood there is some sort of background check. Here we call it profiling, there they call it collecting intelligence(information). You don't necessarily need a good police chief to report suspicious activity or report your relative anonymously whom you suspect is into the business of terror.
I think if as a society we have done our part only then can we point fingers outwards. The day someone will come out and say "hey! I called the police regarding those guys there and nothing was done about it"


The problem is no that somone did not see the abandoned bag, but that even when you see it, the reminder to treat is as suspicious is not there. Where are the instructions at the airport strictly forbiding the leaving of luggages unattended like in other international security contious airports.

Again at JKIA, the only thing the cops want to see is you dropping people outside a drop zone so they can get some cash out of you.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Wainadi
#95 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 6:55:28 PM
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Jus Blazin wrote:
mawinder wrote:

There is no we are one campaign and no redcross soliciting for donations unlike Westgate because those killed were poor people.

Spot on!!!!! Even for the Kapedo massacre and Lamu.

Its all good.
Wainadi
#96 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 7:00:32 PM
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Jus Blazin wrote:
mawinder wrote:

There is no we are one campaign and no redcross soliciting for donations unlike Westgate because those killed were poor people.

Spot on!!!!! Even for the Kapedo massacre and Lamu.

Its all good.
guru267
#97 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 7:16:38 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
guru267 wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
guru267 wrote:
maka wrote:
D32 wrote:
@UhuruKenyatta We know that you picked some of those guys to run those jobs, please listen to some wise words by John C. Maxwell

"A man must be big enough to admit his mistakes, smart enough to profit from them, and strong enough to correct them."


They should not last another week...Al Shaabab claim that non of their Mujaheedens were killed by the govt...Ruto should just shut up...Crap.


But who does Ruto think he is kidding...

Those Shabaab had already vanished into thin air before the government even knew what was happening.

I dare him to produce one body... And not some poor herdsmen claiming they are Shabaab!


Kenya should use the Israeli tactics. When one Jew is killed, 1000 Palestinians pay for it. Right now as we speak, all villages in Somalia within a 30km radius from mandera should have been ccarpet bombed and wiped off the map. Then it would be up to the UN or Red cross to tell us how many of the thousands killed were alshabab. That way future attacks are forestalled since every one knows the consequences.


Since 1948 how have these actions helped Israel??

They still go to bed every night knowing that anytime they could be bombed or butchered in the street by a Palestinian... Is that peace or security?

thinking that true Muslims are scared of a small thing called death is naive!


Continue rejoicing, but know that if things continue like this, a time will come in the not too distant future when kenyan non muslims will get tired of these killings, and will take the law in their hands, and also start stopping buses and moving from house to house, and give out similar "justice".


Be my guest.. What's stopping you from starting your "justice" now?!

To threaten a Muslim with death... Really???

Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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#98 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 7:42:16 PM
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Kratos
#99 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 8:12:54 PM
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@Obi, while I don't dispute that maybe the security apparatus is not doing enough i feel i should also point out that Kenyans tend to think of government as a differnt entity from themselves whereas infact government is a cog in the wheel of society. Without the people there would be no government (police, judiciary, parliament, presidency etc). They need all the help they can get and for me it is the responsibility of the citizens to change tact and work with the "government"
Let me give you a hypothetical scenario. Say me and you want to rob a bank in Tanzania, how do we accomplish that successfully? We need an insider and an enabler. The insider to tell us which bank we can relatively rob with ease, an enabler to take care of logistics, someone who knows the way around in case we are caught. Now turn this scenario into the Kenyan crisis we are facing, the insider here is a Kenyan al kebab convert and the enabler being sympathizers and propagandists. You see from that information the families, friends and relatives of these people KNOW about their activities. Collection of intelligence to combat terrorism does not come from the police or whoever, it comes from the people. Once we stop shielding them, then we are on the right path.

The society needs to wake up from slumber and confront this head on and stop with the excuses we use to make ourselves feel better. Let me give you two examples, whenever there is a surge in road accidents we all point our fingers on the government yet the main real causes are over-speeding, driving under the influence and driving unroadworthy vehicles (all preventable if everyone were to be responsible enough). Another example, whenever people are fleeced by pyramid schemes they claim the government is not doing enough to protect them from their unscrupulous brothers and sisters while the real culprit is greed.
Countries like Israel which suffer terrorist attacks would be in constant turmoil if they were to follow the same logic that we seem to prefer. The police are US, the judiciary are US not THEM.

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
Atalaku
#100 Posted : Monday, November 24, 2014 8:25:24 PM
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guru267 wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
guru267 wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
guru267 wrote:
maka wrote:
D32 wrote:
@UhuruKenyatta We know that you picked some of those guys to run those jobs, please listen to some wise words by John C. Maxwell

"A man must be big enough to admit his mistakes, smart enough to profit from them, and strong enough to correct them."


They should not last another week...Al Shaabab claim that non of their Mujaheedens were killed by the govt...Ruto should just shut up...Crap.


But who does Ruto think he is kidding...

Those Shabaab had already vanished into thin air before the government even knew what was happening.

I dare him to produce one body... And not some poor herdsmen claiming they are Shabaab!


Kenya should use the Israeli tactics. When one Jew is killed, 1000 Palestinians pay for it. Right now as we speak, all villages in Somalia within a 30km radius from mandera should have been ccarpet bombed and wiped off the map. Then it would be up to the UN or Red cross to tell us how many of the thousands killed were alshabab. That way future attacks are forestalled since every one knows the consequences.


Since 1948 how have these actions helped Israel??

They still go to bed every night knowing that anytime th ey could be bombed or butchered in the street by a Palestinian... Is that peace or security?

thinking that true Muslims are scared of a small thing called death is naive!


Continue rejoicing, but know that if things continue like this, a time will come in the not too distant future when kenyan non muslims will get tired of these killings, and will take the law in their hands, and also start stopping buses and moving from house to house, and give out similar "justice".


Be my guest.. What's stopping you from starting your "justice" now?!

To threaten a Muslim with death... Really???


...yeah @guru is right. Muslims dont fear death...and that is the trag
edy of our times...And only fools go looking for death!
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