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2015 AFCON Qualifiers
shocks
#121 Posted : Friday, November 14, 2014 2:44:41 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
[quote=Uram]Morocco will not host the 2015 Africa Cup of Nations because of its fears over the Ebola outbreak elsewhere on the continent, the Confederation of African Football (Caf) has confirmed.
Caf expelled Morocco, who would have qualified as hosts, from the finals.
It did not announce a new venue for the tournament, due to take place from 17 January to 8 February.
But BBC Sport understands three nations have expressed an interest and the new host will be confirmed on Wednesday.
Morocco had been given until Saturday to make a final decision on whether or not it would host the tournament.
It had asked to postpone the competition until 2016.
Egypt has stated it will not host the tournament for "economic and political reasons", while 2013 and 2008 hosts South Africa and Ghana have also ruled themselves out of contention.

BBC

To be held in QATAR!!!
http://bit.ly/1v40vKZ[/quote]

I'd rather they cancel it altogether than host it in another continent, problem is corrupt CAF are only eyeing the sponsorship cash
Muheani
#122 Posted : Friday, November 14, 2014 3:40:10 PM
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shocks
#123 Posted : Friday, November 14, 2014 4:10:40 PM
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[quote=Muheani]Equitorial Guinea it is

http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/11ek6pl/-/index.html[/quote]

how many stadia does this small country have?
Alba
#124 Posted : Friday, November 14, 2014 5:33:45 PM
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That Equatorial Guinea can host a tournament of this magnitude at short notice and Kenya likely cannot host a tournament for another 5 years is amazing. This is the main stadium in Equatorial Guinea

ecstacy
#125 Posted : Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:36:01 PM
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Alba wrote:
That Equatorial Guinea can host a tournament of this magnitude at short notice and Kenya likely cannot host a tournament for another 5 years is amazing. This is the main stadium in Equatorial Guinea



Oh please! You claim to be a soccer pro but don't even know that 2012 edition of the Africa Cup of Nations was co-hosted in Equatorial Guinea and it was a natural consideration for this fallback for obvious reasons. This country was informed of its 2012 successful bid in September 2006!!

From the economic front, please also be informed Equitorial Guinea is enjoying new found oil wealth. With corruption running amok, President Obiang has for long held that oil revenues are a state secret and used this tournament to blind the populace.

Peace!
ecstacy
#126 Posted : Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:39:58 PM
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For the CECAFA region, Uganda need a draw against Guinea away to qualify but are 1 nil down in the first half despite packing a Bugunda bus in front of their post.

Nigeria v South Africa should also be an interesting fixture despite SA being through already.
ecstacy
#127 Posted : Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:21:38 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
For the CECAFA region, Uganda need a draw against Guinea away to qualify but are 1 nil down in the first half despite packing a Bugunda bus in front of their post.

Nigeria v South Africa should also be an interesting fixture despite SA being through already.


Disastrous for Uganda. Central defender blatantly goes for the striker instead of the ball, school boy error .Red card and penalty. Seidouba makes it 2-0.
Alba
#128 Posted : Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:58:19 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
Alba wrote:
That Equatorial Guinea can host a tournament of this magnitude at short notice and Kenya likely cannot host a tournament for another 5 years is amazing. This is the main stadium in Equatorial Guinea



Oh please! You claim to be a soccer pro but don't even know that 2012 edition of the Africa Cup of Nations was co-hosted in Equatorial Guinea and it was a natural consideration for this fallback for obvious reasons. This country was informed of its 2012 successful bid in September 2006!!

From the economic front, please also be informed Equitorial Guinea is enjoying new found oil wealth. With corruption running amok, President Obiang has for long held that oil revenues are a state secret and used this tournament to blind the populace.

Peace!


I know that the 2012 AFCON was co-hosted where did you get the impression that I did not?

We are discussing Equatorial Guinea being able to host AFCON 2015 at short notice and you are here still talking about 2012?

I am not sure what your point about Obiang and corruption is. A Kenyan accusing Obiang of coprruption is a classic case of the pot and the kettle.

All I am saying is that Kenya is a joke country when it comes to hosting or bidding. Look at the shambolic hosting of the 2013 CECAFA cup where even Zanzibar vowed never to visit Kenya again.

Zanzibar !!

None of that has anything to do with oil wealth. In any case there are numerous countries that have succesfully hosted AFCON without oil wealth.

Lets just admit that Kenya is pathetic at these things. The first step towards solving a problem is to admit that we have a problem.

Our sports minister just wasted time and money on a useless bid for AFCON 2017 that had a snowballs chance in hell. Kenya is just pathetic. Lets admit we have a problem then work on the solution.

ecstacy
#129 Posted : Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:01:32 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
For the CECAFA region, Uganda need a draw against Guinea away to qualify but are 1 nil down in the first half despite packing a Bugunda bus in front of their post.

Nigeria v South Africa should also be an interesting fixture despite SA being through already.


Disastrous for Uganda. Central defender blatantly goes for the striker instead of the ball, school boy error .Red card and penalty. Seidouba makes it 2-0.


Guinea 2 - Uganda 0. Very nice television production from Morocco where this game was played. Ghana also through. Leading Togo 3-1 at home last I checked with 10min to play. Uganda's senior players let them down. From the dismissed captain to a selfish Massa upfront. Guinea had a younger, fresher and more technically skilled squad.

The overdone old talk of youth systems comes in..we have not moved forward as a nation and as a region.
ecstacy
#130 Posted : Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:06:42 PM
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Alba wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Alba wrote:
That Equatorial Guinea can host a tournament of this magnitude at short notice and Kenya likely cannot host a tournament for another 5 years is amazing. This is the main stadium in Equatorial Guinea



Oh please! You claim to be a soccer pro but don't even know that 2012 edition of the Africa Cup of Nations was co-hosted in Equatorial Guinea and it was a natural consideration for this fallback for obvious reasons. This country was informed of its 2012 successful bid in September 2006!!

From the economic front, please also be informed Equitorial Guinea is enjoying new found oil wealth. With corruption running amok, President Obiang has for long held that oil revenues are a state secret and used this tournament to blind the populace.

Peace!


I know that the 2012 AFCON was co-hosted where did you get the impression that I did not?

We are discussing Equatorial Guinea being able to host AFCON 2015 at short notice and you are here still talking about 2012?

I am not sure what your point about Obiang and corruption is. A Kenyan accusing Obiang of coprruption is a classic case of the pot and the kettle.

All I am saying is that Kenya is a joke country when it comes to hosting or bidding. Look at the shambolic hosting of the 2013 CECAFA cup where even Zanzibar vowed never to visit Kenya again.

Zanzibar !!

None of that has anything to do with oil wealth. In any case there are numerous countries that have succesfully hosted AFCON without oil wealth.

Lets just admit that Kenya is pathetic at these things. The first step towards solving a problem is to admit that we have a problem.

Our sports minister just wasted time and money on a useless bid for AFCON 2017 that had a snowballs chance in hell. Kenya is just pathetic. Lets admit we have a problem then decide on the solution.


There is not enough English to explain this to you. Yes, Kenya has issues but with all due respect your comparison on this particular issue is nonsensical.
Alba
#131 Posted : Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:14:47 PM
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Its not that there is not enough English. Its that I have beaten your argument hands down. Either debate me or quit making excuses eti not enough English. Kwani hujapita KCSE ?

Here are my points

1. Equatorial Guinea is being awardded hosting rights for 2015 AFCON at short notice. Why? Because they have proven pedigree and up to date facilities.

2. Kenya is a joke country that even made a mess of hosting CECAFA in 2013 resulting in embarassing scenes of teams being locked in their hotels.

3. Following the fiasco of 1996, CAF will never trust Kenya again. Thats why the bid for AFCON 2017 and 2019 was such a joke. Even if Kenya bids for 2021 AFCON with 7 year advance notice, CAF will never award it to Kenya. They know Kenya is a joke when it comes to bidding and hosting.

4. How the heck do you bid for a tournament with stadia like Machakso and Mombasa in mind?

Now quit making excuses about English. Either admit you have no rebuttal or post your dissent.
ecstacy
#132 Posted : Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:21:29 PM
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Alba wrote:
Its not that there is not enough English. Its that I have beaten your argument hands down. Either debate me or quit making excuses eti not enough English. Kwani hujapita KCSE ?

Here are my points

1. Equatorial Guinea is being awardded hosting rights for 2015 AFCON at short notice. Why? Because they have proven pedigree and up to date facilities.

2. Kenya is a joke country that even made a mess of hosting CECAFA in 2013 resulting in embarassing scenes of teams being locked in their hotels.

3. Following the fiasco of 1996, CAF will never trust Kenya again. Thats why the bid for AFCON 2017 and 2019 was such a joke. Even if Kenya bids for 2021 AFCON with 7 year advance notice, CAF will never award it to Kenya. They know Kenya is a joke when it comes to bidding and hosting.

4. How the heck do you bid for a tournament with stadia like Machakso and Mombasa in mind?

Now quit making excuses about English. Either admit you have no rebuttal or post your dissent.


Actually, I don't have to do anything you say. If you still cannot see it, it's a waste of time. You 'win'.
Uram
#133 Posted : Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:01:00 PM
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Defending champions Nigeria out
ecstacy
#134 Posted : Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:45:51 PM
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Uram wrote:
Defending champions Nigeria out

Kelele kwisha Laughing out loudly
Uram
#135 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 8:28:09 AM
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Full list of qualified countries

Equatorial Guinea Ghana Guinea S. Africa
Tunisia Senegal Algeria Mali
Burkina Faso Gabon Cameroon Ivory Coast
DR Congo Congo Zambia Cape Verde

Shocking; Nigeria and Egypt out

Disappointing that some countries we used to beat at will years ago qualified easily in their groups. I remember us beating Burkinabe home and away 4-3 and 4-2 respectively in '98 World Cup qualifiers and again 3-0 in 2004 Afcon. Cape Verde has improved vastly but I remember us beating them home and away in 2004 Afcon qualifiers. Who will save us?
urstill1
#136 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:24:33 AM
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Uram wrote:
Full list of qualified countries

Equatorial Guinea Ghana Guinea S. Africa
Tunisia Senegal Algeria Mali
Burkina Faso Gabon Cameroon Ivory Coast
DR Congo Congo Zambia Cape Verde

Shocking; Nigeria and Egypt out

Disappointing that some countries we used to beat at will years ago qualified easily in their groups. I remember us beating Burkinabe home and away 4-3 and 4-2 respectively in '98 World Cup qualifiers and again 3-0 in 2004 Afcon. Cape Verde has improved vastly but I remember us beating them home and away in 2004 Afcon qualifiers. Who will save us?


I believe upto now, we can still beat the Burkinabes. Some of these countries have elephant political problems, e.g. Burkina Faso, DRC, IVC ... yet they qualify at will. So I will never blame the govt. I now believe football is 50-50 planning and talent. Cape Verde is a country with slightly over half a million people yet they got to quarters on their maiden AFCON last year. They have also qualified for 2015 tournament. They are building a culture, the Brazilian style. Is there a way of unseating Nyamweya? I'm 100% sure that he'll fight to retain his seat in the next elections.
Alba
#137 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:55:39 PM
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ecstacy wrote:


Actually, I don't have to do anything you say. If you still cannot see it, it's a waste of time. You 'win'.


It takes a big man to admit he has no point. Good on ya mate !
Alba
#138 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 6:00:37 PM
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urstill1 wrote:
Uram wrote:
Full list of qualified countries

Equatorial Guinea Ghana Guinea S. Africa
Tunisia Senegal Algeria Mali
Burkina Faso Gabon Cameroon Ivory Coast
DR Congo Congo Zambia Cape Verde

Shocking; Nigeria and Egypt out

Disappointing that some countries we used to beat at will years ago qualified easily in their groups. I remember us beating Burkinabe home and away 4-3 and 4-2 respectively in '98 World Cup qualifiers and again 3-0 in 2004 Afcon. Cape Verde has improved vastly but I remember us beating them home and away in 2004 Afcon qualifiers. Who will save us?


I believe upto now, we can still beat the Burkinabes. Some of these countries have elephant political problems, e.g. Burkina Faso, DRC, IVC ... yet they qualify at will. So I will never blame the govt. I now believe football is 50-50 planning and talent. Cape Verde is a country with slightly over half a million people yet they got to quarters on their maiden AFCON last year. They have also qualified for 2015 tournament. They are building a culture, the Brazilian style. Is there a way of unseating Nyamweya? I'm 100% sure that he'll fight to retain his seat in the next elections.


Nyamweya is a large part of the problem. Unfortunately he will win again because he has succeeded in sidelining all dissenters like Sholei. And he has the support of the equally corrupt FIFA president.

But government is also a large part of the problem or solution. For one thing we need a competent sports minister with a vision. A sports minister who actually knows about sports, prefrably a former player or coach or official like Paul Ereng or Mike Boit. Federations can only do so much. The government can help clubs operate by giving them land, can establish youth development centres, can provide incentives for corporates to sponsor sports etc etc etc. All this can happen if the sports minister has a vision.

Also I believe that if govt went after Nyamweya for past corrupt deals, they could unseat him. His shenanigans are well known in football circles. If the govt investigated this chap, they could threaten him with prison time.
Alba
#139 Posted : Friday, November 21, 2014 4:00:10 PM
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The last 5 minutes of the CIV - Cameroon match was scandalous. CIV players passed the ball among themselves fo 5 minutes to run down the clock. I dont think I have ever seen this before Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Alba
#140 Posted : Friday, November 21, 2014 4:02:41 PM
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I am actually relieved that Uganda did not qualify. There is an insufferable Ugandan I know who keeps bragging to me whenever Uganda beats Kenya at anything.

When Uganda men and women's team recently beat their Kenyan counterparts to qualify for Africa cup for the first time since the 1970s, I felt like hiding under the desk.

http://kenyapage.net/com...dooms-kenya-basketball/

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