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Drama at Equity Bank
gogeta
#31 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 7:33:04 AM
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Sorry this is a discussion about EB but @Scubidu...is CfCStanbic also planning for a restructure? of what? i would like to see their service improving then i can think of going back there.
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VituVingiSana
#32 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 9:35:54 AM
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BTW, CFC Stanbic wants a PIN card/certificate for an account.

1) Do all banks ask for the PIN cert from KRA?
2) How does Equity open accounts since I doubt (I may be wrong) Equity requires a PIN cert.
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Ondiek
#33 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 9:51:47 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
BTW, CFC Stanbic wants a PIN card/certificate for an account.

1) Do all banks ask for the PIN cert from KRA?
2) How does Equity open accounts since I doubt (I may be wrong) Equity requires a PIN cert.


Any Bank serious about KYC requires PIN cert.
kizee
#34 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 10:09:35 AM
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@ ondiek..does a PIN cert really mean u know ur customer?
mukiha
#35 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 10:26:35 AM
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About the tiger; some one tried to win an argument on this thread by proclaiming that he/she works in a bank.....I wondered :"so?"

This Know Your Customer (KYC) thing is a complete waste of time. It has been used by Kenyan banks for decades to deny services to a multitude of citizens.

In my view, and I think this is the position taken by Equity, the most that a bank can know about you is the details of your ID. All other information can be extrapolated from that!

If the registrar of persons has not streamlined the information collection and retrieval system, hiyo ni shauri yake. A bank cannot and should not be expected to do the work of the registrar of persons and companies!

Think about it; you ask me for a utility bill, then I bring you bills in the name of my landlord! How will that help you?
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chaliwong
#36 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 11:46:34 AM
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Banks usually require PIN certs for opening Business Current accounts but not for ordinery Savings accoonts.
Scubidu
#37 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 11:55:24 AM
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@gogeta. CFC Stanbic has been restructuring for a while now, and many of the departments in both banks had been duplicated. I think they also had teething problems integrating their banking software.

But the south african's are confusing everyone, with separation of business, and there's no clear mission for the bank...are they a retail or corporate bank? I preferred CFC services b4 stanbic came and complicated everything including the simple things like deposit slips.

I think to run an effective credit information system and to deter money laundering KYC becomes extremely important-it's a global trend for banks to be at the forefront of this.
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Scubidu
#38 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 11:57:38 AM
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I'd like to look at the current restructuring in light of Equity's life cycle. Is it a mature bank or still growing? The current restructuring would imply that it's not a very mature company and probably more of a one-man show.

So what are the risks of investing in a company run by one person, Dr Mwangi?
Is Equity's growth plateauing? I hear Uganda ain't doing that well?
Recruitment policy, department restructuring and layoffs seem panicked and disorganized.
What are the implications of Equity going down on our banking system seeing as they hold a majority of the accounts?

I friend of mine told me told me that when people get carjacked these days thugs are asking for your equity card? Apparently you can withdraw funds EVEN after you've blocked the thing. There are too many operational inefficiencies within the bank that relies on its IT system (ATMs) to manage over 3 million customers.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
VituVingiSana
#39 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 1:11:20 PM
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chaliwong wrote:
Banks usually require PIN certs for opening Business Current accounts but not for ordinery Savings accoonts.


Mine is a PERSONAL SAVINGS ACCOUNT (10 yrs old)... I have zero 'biashara' with the bank though I do use CFCFS.
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VituVingiSana
#40 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 1:15:52 PM
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How does Equity Bank manage to open so many accounts every month?

I like that EB takes your picture right there & then. Not this BS of bringing your own pictures. At least when EB takes a photo, it is YOUR photo...

Since most of Equity's new accounts are in the less served areas (not the major towns) how do they manage with the KYC especially the PIN cert?

Ignore Nairobi, Mombasa, Kisumu, etc...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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