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Alba wrote:Rethuglicans are very goood at messaging and propaganda. Obama has done very well:
1. Unemployment is below 6% and still improving
2. US economy is growing at 3% which is much better than most western nations
3. Stock market is setting new records
4. Many people now have universal healthcare
5. Osama was terminated and the troops are leaving Afghanistan and Iraq
On and on and on...............
But the right wing has a very good propaganda machine that blows everything out of proprtion and makes it look like Obama is the worst president. Juzi there was a huge controversy eti because Obama saluted while holding a cup of coffee.
Also, most people who vote in mid terms are the elederly and country dwellers who have nothing better to do. And these are the people who are easily scared by republican scare mongers.
Recently Rethuglicans started a false rumour eti Obama wants to give 34 million green cards to illegal mexicans. The thought of America being taken over by mexican immigrants scared the elderly and the redneck simpletons to the point that they turned out in large numbers to the polls.
Right wingers are very adept at false rumour mongering because most country dwellers are simpletons. Bush won in 2004 largely because of the rumour eti another 9-11 was going to happen if Kerry was elected. Mara sijui ati Kerry is an atheist who wants to ban the bible. There was also the swiftboat lies etc etc You're right, majority of people who actually vote are old, poor or dumb. Obama won because of college educated voters, those voters just liked him but do not translate to reliable voters for democratic party they were voting for Obama not the party. I donated to Obama campaign alot of people did, I still get emails from DNC but I don't even open them because I don't care about DNC or Democratic party thats how alot of people who voted for OBAMA are!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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Rollout, your problem is you think you know alot when you actually have very simplistic almost naive type of reasoning. Hopefully this article will help you along http://www.marketwatch.c...2014-11-06?siteid=yhoof2
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/26/2011 Posts: 759
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[quote=Nabwire]Rollout, your problem is you think you know alot when you actually have very simplistic almost naive type of reasoning. Hopefully this article will help you along http://www.marketwatch.c...014-11-06?siteid=yhoof2[/quote] @ Nabwire What are you even trying to explain with the artical? Like I said, I might be naive and simplistic but the facts don't change. I have met alot of people like you in my time in USA and they always have something in common. They moved to USA will alot of ambitions and big dreams but over time for one reason or the other their dreams never got to materialized and they start trying to convienced themselve and the world that USA is not that great, the point at racism, and anything they can to explain their own underachievement. Again, I am giving you fact, I can engage you the whole day about Freddie and Fannie but the facts doesn't change, ~50% of American don't vote because elections do not mean much to them. Elections mean more to ordinary Kenyan than Ordinary American. In kenya it can mean the road to my region will not be build if my region is not in the government or it could mean my tribe man will not be appointed inspector of Police and therefore my whole tribe will not be hired police men. Which part of that is wrong?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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Rollout wrote:[quote=Nabwire]Rollout, your problem is you think you know alot when you actually have very simplistic almost naive type of reasoning. Hopefully this article will help you along http://www.marketwatch.c...014-11-06?siteid=yhoof2[/quote] @ Nabwire What are you even trying to explain with the artical? Like I said, I might be naive and simplistic but the facts don't change. I have met alot of people like you in my time in USA and they always have something in common. They moved to USA will alot of ambitions and big dreams but over time for one reason or the other their dreams never got to materialized and they start trying to convienced themselve and the world that USA is not that great, the point at racism, and anything they can to explain their own underachievement.Again, I am giving you fact, I can engage you the whole day about Freddie and Fannie but the facts doesn't change, ~50% of American don't vote because elections do not mean much to them. Elections mean more to ordinary Kenyan than Ordinary American. In kenya it can mean the road to my region will not be build if my region is not in the government or it could mean my tribe man will not be appointed inspector of Police and therefore my whole tribe will not be hired police men. Which part of that is wrong?  For the record I think the US is one of the best places to grow, both financially and as a person. I have also met alot of people of your kind who keep harping about the mythical white picket fence while slaving away Keep believing that elections dont matter, you will impress your village members You went from saying elections dont matter, to "50% of Americans dont vote" 2 very different things. Enjoy your weekend
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/26/2011 Posts: 759
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Nabwire wrote:Rollout wrote:[quote=Nabwire]Rollout, your problem is you think you know alot when you actually have very simplistic almost naive type of reasoning. Hopefully this article will help you along http://www.marketwatch.c...014-11-06?siteid=yhoof2[/quote] @ Nabwire What are you even trying to explain with the artical? Like I said, I might be naive and simplistic but the facts don't change. I have met alot of people like you in my time in USA and they always have something in common. They moved to USA will alot of ambitions and big dreams but over time for one reason or the other their dreams never got to materialized and they start trying to convienced themselve and the world that USA is not that great, the point at racism, and anything they can to explain their own underachievement.Again, I am giving you fact, I can engage you the whole day about Freddie and Fannie but the facts doesn't change, ~50% of American don't vote because elections do not mean much to them. Elections mean more to ordinary Kenyan than Ordinary American. In kenya it can mean the road to my region will not be build if my region is not in the government or it could mean my tribe man will not be appointed inspector of Police and therefore my whole tribe will not be hired police men. Which part of that is wrong? For the record I think the US is one of the best places to grow, both financially and as a person. I have also met alot of people of your kind who keep harping about the mythical white picket fence while slaving away Keep believing that elections dont matter, you will impress your village members You went from saying elections dont matter, to "50% of Americans dont vote" 2 very different things. Enjoy your weekend Nice, I see you took offence of the ambition part, haha! Also that statement ~ white picket fence while slaving away ~, sound like "acting white", or "I can't work for a white man." Those statement commonly come from a section of US population unfortunately though, that section of the population are not doing well and are just blaming the white man! The ~ 50% thing you're trying to highlight is just being petty, it's also common when someone has nothing to base their argument on, they'll point at petty things like the difference between : and ;.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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You are trying too hard to find an issue where there is none. The white picket fence phrase is used by WHITE people all the time. Please refer to Jon Stewart, Letterman, Leno plus any satirical show. White picket fence cuts across the board to all races and nationalities. You have a chip on your shoulder, but thats none of my business
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/26/2011 Posts: 759
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Nabwire wrote:You are trying too hard to find an issue where there is none. The white picket fence phrase is used by WHITE people all the time. Please refer to Jon Stewart, Letterman, Leno plus any satirical show. White picket fence cuts across the board to all races and nationalities. You have a chip on your shoulder, but thats none of my business @Nabwire, I think we're both right and should agree to disagree. Here is why, people form opinions and arguments based on their surrounding. For instance, if you're surrounded by people who are unemployed or underemployed or people are on welfare you're more likely to think the situation within your environment drives politicts and you're right. If you're surrounded by people whose lives can exist no matter the political dynamics, then you're likely to form your arguments using that set of environment. So I think we're both right, US is big and diverse economically and socially so we're not going to agree because we probably come from two different economic status. I understand you completely, I saw you referred me to some shows but again those shows are in local stations, people who watch those shows probably don't have cable/satellite, I watched them when I was in college when I used to have a little TV with 5 channels, so I had no option but to watch Leno, again most people who watch Leno do so because of a lot of reason, the biggest on is economics, can't afford to pay for cable/satellite . I am not saying that's you so don't take offense. we can go over this again but let's agree to disagree.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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Rollout wrote:Nabwire wrote:You are trying too hard to find an issue where there is none. The white picket fence phrase is used by WHITE people all the time. Please refer to Jon Stewart, Letterman, Leno plus any satirical show. White picket fence cuts across the board to all races and nationalities. You have a chip on your shoulder, but thats none of my business @Nabwire, I think we're both right and should agree to disagree. Here is why, people form opinions and arguments based on their surrounding. For instance, if you're surrounded by people who are unemployed or underemployed or people are on welfare you're more likely to think the situation within your environment drives politicts and you're right. If you're surrounded by people whose lives can exist no matter the political dynamics, then you're likely to form your arguments using that set of environment. So I think we're both right, US is big and diverse economically and socially so we're not going to agree because we probably come from two different economic status. I understand you completely, I saw you referred me to some shows but again those shows are in local stations, people who watch those shows probably don't have cable/satellite, I watched them when I was in college when I used to have a little TV with 5 channels, so I had no option but to watch Leno, again most people who watch Leno do so because of a lot of reason, the biggest on is economics, can't afford to pay for cable/satellite . I am not saying that's you so don't take offense. we can go over this again but let's agree to disagree. I dont even know why I'm humoring you. But no we are not both right, you are wrong You cant say something as ludicrous as elections dont matter in the US then come back to save face by saying we are both right. Then you went off on a tangent trying to paint yourself as being from the wealthy class, and me being from the poor class, but you forgot one tiny detail, only the working poor try to convince people, especially online, of how wealthy they are. Please stop with the simplistic reasoning, Stewart, Letterman, Leno are mostly watched by the upper middle class to wealthy, going by your reasoning, Obama is poor coz he and his staff religiously watch these shows especially around elections You showed your ignorance and I called you out for it, trying to pacify me with classicism only worsens your case
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/26/2011 Posts: 759
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Nabwire wrote:Rollout wrote:Nabwire wrote:You are trying too hard to find an issue where there is none. The white picket fence phrase is used by WHITE people all the time. Please refer to Jon Stewart, Letterman, Leno plus any satirical show. White picket fence cuts across the board to all races and nationalities. You have a chip on your shoulder, but thats none of my business @Nabwire, I think we're both right and should agree to disagree. Here is why, people form opinions and arguments based on their surrounding. For instance, if you're surrounded by people who are unemployed or underemployed or people are on welfare you're more likely to think the situation within your environment drives politicts and you're right. If you're surrounded by people whose lives can exist no matter the political dynamics, then you're likely to form your arguments using that set of environment. So I think we're both right, US is big and diverse economically and socially so we're not going to agree because we probably come from two different economic status. I understand you completely, I saw you referred me to some shows but again those shows are in local stations, people who watch those shows probably don't have cable/satellite, I watched them when I was in college when I used to have a little TV with 5 channels, so I had no option but to watch Leno, again most people who watch Leno do so because of a lot of reason, the biggest on is economics, can't afford to pay for cable/satellite . I am not saying that's you so don't take offense. we can go over this again but let's agree to disagree. I dont even know why I'm humoring you. But no we are not both right, you are wrong You cant say something as ludicrous as elections dont matter in the US then come back to save face by saying we are both right. Then you went off on a tangent trying to paint yourself as being from the wealthy class, and me being from the poor class, but you forgot one tiny detail, only the working poor try to convince people, especially online, of how wealthy they are. Please stop with the simplistic reasoning, Stewart, Letterman, Leno are mostly watched by the upper middle class to wealthy, going by your reasoning, Obama is poor coz he and his staff religiously watch these shows especially around elections You showed your ignorance and I called you out for it, trying to pacify me with classicism only worsens your case @Nabwire. Yep Obama team watch them during elections because people in lower economic status watched them and they happen to be the people who actually vote so it's important for any political leader to stop by Leno show or letterman show precisely because that's another way to connect with those voters, you can't even connect that? So you thought they love those show that much, hahaha! That's why they religiously watch during election
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Rollout wrote:murchr wrote:Rollout wrote:harrydre wrote:only 1/3 of registered voters showed up to vote! It's hard to get 50% of people to vote in US even in general election because unlike in Africa where if my tribe is not on the table the whole region can go without food. Elections just don't have direct impact to people's lives like it has in Kenya so it's hard to get people to vote. HAHA, so when they speak of Hispanics Blacks Asians and their interests etc..how does that differ from tribe? I am surprised you don't see the difference! You don't need hispanic or Black godfather to get into US army, you will need a kalenjin or a kyuk godfather to get to Kenya police or Army. You don't need black IRS executive to be employed downstream in IRS but you will need a kale OR Kyuk kenya internal revenue to get a job as a there. The point is you'll hear Hispanics or Black interest but it's policy are very far from people's daily life, it's not something that will make someone emotional. That's why social issues really get americans to polls because social issues are closed to people; birth control and stuff. In kenya, election mean more than in US or developed countries, the road in your region will not be build if your region is not on the table. You dont need a godfather, you just need your skin and name and a godfather will show up. Even if you get in, you dont go far. Heck there's a reason they have affirmative action requiring every applicant to state their race. Do you think that just happened? People fought for it but you seem to be too blind. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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