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The vaccine is supposed to be administered to all women and girls of reproductive age 14-49yrs. The govt says vaccine is ok, the catholic church says it is laced with "family planning hormones" that cause miscarriages and infertility in women. I watched the debate on citizen tv last night and ended up confused since both govt and the church were flashing their results to back their position. What is so difficult in carrying out independent tests to settle the issue and assure the public. Should we allow our wives and daughters to be vaccinated when a war of words is going on regarding the vaccine? The Star: Tests on tetanus vaccine show it has a hormone that causes infertility,miscarriage, Catholic church says
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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jaggernaut wrote:The vaccine is supposed to be administered to all women and girls of reproductive age 14-49yrs. The govt says vaccine is ok, the catholic church says it is laced with "family planning hormones" that cause miscarriages and infertility in women. I watched the debate on citizen tv last night and ended up confused since both g ovt and the church were flashing their results to back their position. What is so difficult in carrying out independent tests to settle the issue and assure the public. Should we allow our wives and daughters to be vaccinated when a war of words is going on regarding the vaccine? The Star: Tests on tetanus vaccine show it has a hormone that causes infertility,miscarriage, Catholic church says Correction: The govt guy didnt have documents. He came with Dr Karanja's document that he had sent earlier. The govt doc says that the results that Dr Karanja had are fine, just that Dr Karanja and his team are mis-interpreting the results. Now as you ask I also wonder: If there is nothing to hide, cant the govt call the church and any other interested party to an open test session where all will be convinced the drugs are fine? Matters health are sensitive and the govt should do everything to ensure there is no iota of suspicion on the same.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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washiku wrote:jaggernaut wrote:The vaccine is supposed to be administered to all women and girls of reproductive age 14-49yrs. The govt says vaccine is ok, the catholic church says it is laced with "family planning hormones" that cause miscarriages and infertility in women. I watched the debate on citizen tv last night and ended up confused since both g ovt and the church were flashing their results to back their position. What is so difficult in carrying out independent tests to settle the issue and assure the public. Should we allow our wives and daughters to be vaccinated when a war of words is going on regarding the vaccine? The Star: Tests on tetanus vaccine show it has a hormone that causes infertility,miscarriage, Catholic church says Correction: The govt guy didnt have documents. He came with Dr Karanja's document that he had sent earlier. The govt doc says that the results that Dr Karanja had are fine, just that Dr Karanja and his team are mis-interpreting the results. Now as you ask I also wonder: If there is nothing to hide, cant the govt call the church and any other interested party to an open test session where all will be convinced the drugs are fine? Matters health are sensitive and the govt should do everything to ensure there is no iota of suspicion on the same. Catholic! Catholic! Catholic! When polio vaccine was being conducted throughout the country [i would think for the first time] in the late 1990s, the same Catholic came out crying the same BS. First. Is there any evidence of those vaccinated then not having children now? I think NO! Second. If the Catholic are relying on wrong interpretation, why are they so loud? Doesn't that reed of impropriety? The gov't says they have done tests and the vaccine is okay,the Catholic are crying out but with "intentionally" wrong tests. Now, if the gov't will be doing tests in conjunction with every doubting Thomas, what are the chances of having anything done? What will stop PCEA, Dini Ya Msambwa, Finger of God, Redeemed Gospel, Sunnis, Citam etc from coming forth with their suspicions at different stages and demanding what the Catholics are demanding? Do the Catholics support even the idea of using contraceptives? How loud are they on some of their child-molesting sodomizing priests?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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mkeiy wrote:washiku wrote:jaggernaut wrote:The vaccine is supposed to be administered to all women and girls of reproductive age 14-49yrs. The govt says vaccine is ok, the catholic church says it is laced with "family planning hormones" that cause miscarriages and infertility in women. I watched the debate on citizen tv last night and ended up confused since both g ovt and the church were flashing their results to back their position. What is so difficult in carrying out independent tests to settle the issue and assure the public. Should we allow our wives and daughters to be vaccinated when a war of words is going on regarding the vaccine? The Star: Tests on tetanus vaccine show it has a hormone that causes infertility,miscarriage, Catholic church says Correction: The govt guy didnt have documents. He came with Dr Karanja's document that he had sent earlier. The govt doc says that the results that Dr Karanja had are fine, just that Dr Karanja and his team are mis-interpreting the results. Now as you ask I also wonder: If there is nothing to hide, cant the govt call the church and any other interested party to an open test session where all will be convinced the drugs are fine? Matters health are sensitive and the govt should do everything to ensure there is no iota of suspicion on the same. Catholic! Catholic! Catholic! When polio vaccine was being conducted throughout the country [i would think for the first time] in the late 1990s, the same Catholic came out crying the same BS. First. Is there any evidence of those vaccinated then not having children now? I think NO! Second. If the Catholic are relying on wrong interpretation, why are they so loud? Doesn't that reed of impropriety? The gov't says they have done tests and the vaccine is okay,the Catholic are crying out but with "intentionally" wrong tests. Now, if the gov't will be doing tests in conjunction with every doubting Thomas, what are the chances of having anything done? What will stop PCEA, Dini Ya Msambwa, Finger of God, Redeemed Gospel, Sunnis, Citam etc from coming forth with their suspicions at different stages and demanding what the Catholics are demanding? Do the Catholics support even the idea of using contraceptives? How loud are they on some of their child-molesting sodomizing priests? Lets stick to the vaccine issue....
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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When I hear the Catholic church speak, I think of Galileo. This church took 500 years to say Galileo was right after all.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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mkeiy wrote:washiku wrote:jaggernaut wrote:The vaccine is supposed to be administered to all women and girls of reproductive age 14-49yrs. The govt says vaccine is ok, the catholic church says it is laced with "family planning hormones" that cause miscarriages and infertility in women. I watched the debate on citizen tv last night and ended up confused since both g ovt and the church were flashing their results to back their position. What is so difficult in carrying out independent tests to settle the issue and assure the public. Should we allow our wives and daughters to be vaccinated when a war of words is going on regarding the vaccine? The Star: Tests on tetanus vaccine show it has a hormone that causes infertility,miscarriage, Catholic church says Correction: The govt guy didnt have documents. He came with Dr Karanja's document that he had sent earlier. The govt doc says that the results that Dr Karanja had are fine, just that Dr Karanja and his team are mis-interpreting the results. Now as you ask I also wonder: If there is nothing to hide, cant the govt call the church and any other interested party to an open test session where all will be convinced the drugs are fine? Matters health are sensitive and the govt should do everything to ensure there is no iota of suspicion on the same. Catholic! Catholic! Catholic! When polio vaccine was being conducted throughout the country [i would think for the first time] in the late 1990s, the same Catholic came out crying the same BS. First. Is there any evidence of those vaccinated then not having children now? I think NO! Second. If the Catholic are relying on wrong interpretation, why are they so loud? Doesn't that reed of impropriety? The gov't says they have done tests and the vaccine is okay,the Catholic are crying out but with "intentionally" wrong tests. Now, if the gov't will be doing tests in conjunction with every doubting Thomas, what are the chances of having anything done? What will stop PCEA, Dini Ya Msambwa, Finger of God, Redeemed Gospel, Sunnis, Citam etc from coming forth with their suspicions at different stages and demanding what the Catholics are demanding? Do the Catholics support even the idea of using contraceptives? How loud are they on some of their child-molesting sodomizing priests? Cool down man. Right to health demands that everyone can ask questions, you included. In fact, the Director of Medical Services said anybody can take the sample and go test in the allowed labs. Now that is what the the church did and when they were shown the results, they said you are interpreting it wrongly. The burden of proof is now on the church.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2012 Posts: 1,461 Location: Ngong Forest
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mkeiy wrote:washiku wrote:jaggernaut wrote:The vaccine is supposed to be administered to all women and girls of reproductive age 14-49yrs. The govt says vaccine is ok, the catholic church says it is laced with "family planning hormones" that cause miscarriages and infertility in women. I watched the debate on citizen tv last night and ended up confused since both g ovt and the church were flashing their results to back their position. What is so difficult in carrying out independent tests to settle the issue and assure the public. Should we allow our wives and daughters to be vaccinated when a war of words is going on regarding the vaccine? The Star: Tests on tetanus vaccine show it has a hormone that causes infertility,miscarriage, Catholic church says Correction: The govt guy didnt have documents. He came with Dr Karanja's document that he had sent earlier. The govt doc says that the results that Dr Karanja had are fine, just that Dr Karanja and his team are mis-interpreting the results. Now as you ask I also wonder: If there is nothing to hide, cant the govt call the church and any other interested party to an open test session where all will be convinced the drugs are fine? Matters health are sensitive and the govt should do everything to ensure there is no iota of suspicion on the same. Catholic! Catholic! Catholic! When polio vaccine was being conducted throughout the country [i would think for the first time] in the late 1990s, the same Catholic came out crying the same BS. First. Is there any evidence of those vaccinated then not having children now? I think NO! Second. If the Catholic are relying on wrong interpretation, why are they so loud? Doesn't that reed of impropriety? The gov't says they have done tests and the vaccine is okay,the Catholic are crying out but with "intentionally" wrong tests. Now, if the gov't will be doing tests in conjunction with every doubting Thomas, what are the chances of having anything done? What will stop PCEA, Dini Ya Msambwa, Finger of God, Redeemed Gospel, Sunnis, Citam etc from coming forth with their suspicions at different stages and demanding what the Catholics are demanding? Do the Catholics support even the idea of using contraceptives? How loud are they on some of their child-molesting sodomizing priests? When were you sodomized?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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majimaji wrote:
When I hear the Catholic church speak, I think of Galileo. This church took 500 years to say Galileo was right after all.
I hope, want, the govt to blink first.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Population control has it's politics and interests are varied. I can only hope that we'll have a vibrant genetic engineering and organism creation and modification industry.
The Catholic church and anyone else should be able to regulate it's/her/his population as it deems fit using available technology.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/4/2008 Posts: 2,849 Location: Rupi
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Ngong wrote:mkeiy wrote:washiku wrote:jaggernaut wrote:The vaccine is supposed to be administered to all women and girls of reproductive age 14-49yrs. The govt says vaccine is ok, the catholic church says it is laced with "family planning hormones" that cause miscarriages and infertility in women. I watched the debate on citizen tv last night and ended up confused since both g ovt and the church were flashing their results to back their position. What is so difficult in carrying out independent tests to settle the issue and assure the public. Should we allow our wives and daughters to be vaccinated when a war of words is going on regarding the vaccine? The Star: Tests on tetanus vaccine show it has a hormone that causes infertility,miscarriage, Catholic church says Correction: The govt guy didnt have documents. He came with Dr Karanja's document that he had sent earlier. The govt doc says that the results that Dr Karanja had are fine, just that Dr Karanja and his team are mis-interpreting the results. Now as you ask I also wonder: If there is nothing to hide, cant the govt call the church and any other interested party to an open test session where all will be convinced the drugs are fine? Matters health are sensitive and the govt should do everything to ensure there is no iota of suspicion on the same. Catholic! Catholic! Catholic! When polio vaccine was being conducted throughout the country [i would think for the first time] in the late 1990s, the same Catholic came out crying the same BS. First. Is there any evidence of those vaccinated then not having children now? I think NO! Second. If the Catholic are relying on wrong interpretation, why are they so loud? Doesn't that reed of impropriety? The gov't says they have done tests and the vaccine is okay,the Catholic are crying out but with "intentionally" wrong tests. Now, if the gov't will be doing tests in conjunction with every doubting Thomas, what are the chances of having anything done? What will stop PCEA, Dini Ya Msambwa, Finger of God, Redeemed Gospel, Sunnis, Citam etc from coming forth with their suspicions at different stages and demanding what the Catholics are demanding? Do the Catholics support even the idea of using contraceptives? How loud are they on some of their child-molesting sodomizing priests? When were you sodomized?  Seek professional help to overcome the trauma. Not a good thing to live with. Lord, thank you!
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