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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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McReggae wrote:Curious why they didn't shoot back as the were getting surrounded? Hata wangeua kama kumi hivi? I am curious why Kajwang sounds excited by these killings. https://scontent-b-atl.x...300ec36d&oe=54580978i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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a sustained Mr Elgon like kdf operation is necessary there. and this kamama! !Nkt punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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how could the senior police officers do this http://mobile.nation.co..../-/8e2aeaz/-/index.html
weren't inexperienced young boys not just sent to die? if you read the victims accounts most of them were recent graduates who could easily faint at a gun shot. sad http://mobile.nation.co....l/-/ww6c9nz/-/index.htmlpunda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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What link is that, you almost always miss the big picture many at times in an argument! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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newfarer wrote:how could the senior police officers do this http://mobile.nation.co..../-/8e2aeaz/-/index.html
weren't inexperienced young boys not just send to die? if you read the victims accounts most of them were recent graduates who could easily faint at a gun shot. sad Same story at Baragoi: recent graduates. This has always been the police modus operandi. Recent graduates are posted to those hotspots, ostensibly to toughen them up. In days gone by, they'd be posted to the former NEP to battle it out with the then Somali bandits/shiftas. Very wrong approach IMO. Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Same case two years ago in Baragoi, inexperienced boys sent out to die!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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Rankaz13 wrote:newfarer wrote:how could the senior police officers do this http://mobile.nation.co..../-/8e2aeaz/-/index.html
weren't inexperienced young boys not just send to die? if you read the victims accounts most of them were recent graduates who could easily faint at a gun shot. sad Same story at Baragoi: recent graduates. This has always been the police modus operandi. Recent graduates are posted to those hotspots, ostensibly to toughen them up. In days gone by, they'd be posted to the former NEP to battle it out with the then Somali bandits/shiftas. Very wrong approach IMO. if its toughening, why not mix the experienced with not so experienced in reasonable proportions.can someone be sued for professional negligence in such cases just to stop future cases? where are the human rights.BMWs punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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...and why the hell do we keep sending policemen to ambush prone areas without bullet proof vests? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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Rankaz13 wrote:newfarer wrote:how could the senior police officers do this http://mobile.nation.co..../-/8e2aeaz/-/index.html
weren't inexperienced young boys not just send to die? if you read the victims accounts most of them were recent graduates who could easily faint at a gun shot. sad Same story at Baragoi: recent graduates. This has always been the police modus operandi. Recent graduates are posted to those hotspots, ostensibly to toughen them up. In days gone by, they'd be posted to the former NEP to battle it out with the then Somali bandits/shiftas. Very wrong approach IMO. Very sad. Last night we were watching in a not a local the news on the guy who was hiding with grass planted on his head. I made the kiash comment that in the US that guy would have been creamed for being a coward. Everyone reminded me that this is Kenya. No one on the table would have fought for Kenya when all they had was a G3 rifle and no back up for days and their bosses eating mutura and fish at Kosewes in Nairobi. It has now come to this. Where the public feels sorry for these poor young Kenyan policemen who are sacrificed for press conferences and tough rhetoric from their bosses. By the way, after the leo jioni ultimatum from the president, how many guns were returned? If its less than the number stolen, then you know the bandits don't take Kenya seriously. If this is cattle, what happens when the oil starts flowing? Mtajua kweli Turkana sio Kenya. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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This was a planned attack with main aim to acquier guns. One cannot rule out moles within the force who collude with bandits, then ensure success of their plans thro presiding over juniors with 'ineptitude' laced to look otherwise . How can Police in north rift, north east and coast continue to operate the way they did in 1980s. I blame nsisi. The bandits surely have a network that needs to be countered through intelligence and counterintelligence
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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KDF dropping bombs in Kapedo! - StandardQuote:Yesterday, KDF planes reportedly dropped four bombs at Kapitewoi area with reports that two Pokot herders were killed and more than 30 head of cattle killed in the process.
Witnesses said military choppers were also involved in an operation yesterday bombing sites where the attackers were said to be hiding.
The bombings took place even as elders rushed to beat the ultimatum to deliver the guns stolen from officers.
Yesterday evening, intermediaries led Kenya Red Cross Society and government officers to pick four guns which had been placed under a dry fallen acacia tree at Toplane Dam in Chesamu area near Silale hills where the bandits are suspected to be hiding.
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Nandwa wrote:KDF dropping bombs in Kapedo! - StandardQuote:Yesterday, KDF planes reportedly dropped four bombs at Kapitewoi area with reports that two Pokot herders were killed and more than 30 head of cattle killed in the process.
Witnesses said military choppers were also involved in an operation yesterday bombing sites where the attackers were said to be hiding.
The bombings took place even as elders rushed to beat the ultimatum to deliver the guns stolen from officers.
Yesterday evening, intermediaries led Kenya Red Cross Society and government officers to pick four guns which had been placed under a dry fallen acacia tree at Toplane Dam in Chesamu area near Silale hills where the bandits are suspected to be hiding.
Nice job by KDF. Bomb them out of the caves they are hiding. So the wazees surrendered only 4 guns. They must know where the rest are. Communal punishment is the way to go. This will make them think twice before killing security forces in future.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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This is what serving in the police force entails. It's their job description. And yes, you can die any moment and therefore one should know what they are signing up to. Anyway RIP. Normally such new recruits are under the command of an experienced senior officer for any operation. This reminds me of my jirani in shags. He won a green card to the US and once there joined the US marines. And immediately after his training he was deployed to Iraq. So can you imagine that one moment you are boozing at Nairobi west watching EPL football while in the next few months you are on the front line in Iraq fighting battle hardened terrorists? Luckily he finished his tour of duty safely and went back to the US, though thoroughly traumatized. Armies do not send their most experienced men to the battlefront ...at least at the initial stages. They save them for the last decisive moment.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Rankaz13 wrote:newfarer wrote:how could the senior police officers do this http://mobile.nation.co..../-/8e2aeaz/-/index.html
weren't inexperienced young boys not just send to die? if you read the victims accounts most of them were recent graduates who could easily faint at a gun shot. sad Same story at Baragoi: recent graduates. This has always been the police modus operandi. Recent graduates are posted to those hotspots, ostensibly to toughen them up. In days gone by, they'd be posted to the former NEP to battle it out with the then Somali bandits/shiftas. Very wrong approach IMO. hakuna shida recent graduates being sent to the front line, it happens especially in open conflict areas - what lacks is proper tactical planning and better security hardware - otherwise it does not matter in security circles you obey orders without questions, ukiambiwa march into that valley - you just pick your g3 riffle and go. Hata with experienced cops or the (marines  ) being surrounded like that is disastrous, without terraces or barricades to dig in and hold out the attackers, without bullet proof attire and a constant supply of ammunition to sustain a lengthy gun battle - they were doomed.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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McReggae wrote:What link is that, you almost always miss the big picture many at times in an argument! It's irresponsible and lack of respect to the dead to make fun of such a situation. He should be man enough. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Here is another one Quote:Robert Alai Onyango
17 hrs ·
President Uhuru Kenyatta you gave the murderers 24 hours. People have lost loved ones. How many guns have been returned? Who returned them?
It is either you are capable of leading the country or you are fumbling.
Know that 24 brave men and women have died. If they were your ethnicity, you would have sent choppers to carry their bodies but these poor men and women have been bundled into lorries for the ride to Nairobi. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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harrydre wrote:Here is another one Quote:Robert Alai Onyango
17 hrs ·
President Uhuru Kenyatta you gave the murderers 24 hours. People have lost loved ones. How many guns have been returned? Who returned them?
It is either you are capable of leading the country or you are fumbling.
Know that 24 brave men and women have died. If they were your ethnicity, you would have sent choppers to carry their bodies but these poor men and women have been bundled into lorries for the ride to Nairobi. This Alai idiot should just shut up .....or shutted up!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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"These people (Pokot) are Kalenjins and I am one of them. Kalenjins don't kill people without a reason. I don't want you to use force on these people because that will not help anything; it will only be a temporary measure!". This is Gideon Moi to Uhuru. ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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