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newfarer		#21 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 7:34:27 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,505 Location: Uganda		what triggered the big bang? punda amecheka
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Muriel		#22 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:27:07 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142		newfarer wrote: what triggered the big bang? Nothing exploded and then instead of the remnants of the nothing (which exploded) scattering away from each other the remnants of the nothing (which exploded) clumped and stuck together. Some explosion that was. Explosion of nothing. Explosion that gathers. Explosion that does not scatter.
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Swenani		#23 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:14:50 AM
Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum		Muriel wrote: newfarer wrote: what triggered the big bang? Nothing exploded and then instead of the remnants of the nothing (which exploded) scattering away from each other the remnants of the nothing (which exploded) clumped and stuck together. Some explosion that was. Explosion of nothing. Explosion that gathers. Explosion that does not scatter. Evolution does not supplement/complement/support creation(unless God created ardepithecus(sp-in the bible context) first which has been evolving to the current state of Homo sapiens). But creation can complement evolution;God created the "nothing" which exploded and "scattered away together" If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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tycho		#24 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:15:44 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		jaggernaut wrote: If as the Pope says, that God created an evolving being, and we are told that God created man in his own image (Gene 1:27), does this mean that God is also evolving....or man has evolved unlike God who has remained in a non evolved 'rudimentary' state, like a pre evolved man? God isn't a being like Man in the physical sense. Man is God's image in the existential sense. In that sense God evolves with Man at the same rate hence God remains the same eternally. What changes is the symbolization, Man's narrative and understanding.
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Muriel		#25 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:23:16 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142		Swenani wrote: Muriel wrote: newfarer wrote: what triggered the big bang? Nothing exploded and then instead of the remnants of the nothing (which exploded) scattering away from each other the remnants of the nothing (which exploded) clumped and stuck together. Some explosion that was. Explosion of nothing. Explosion that gathers. Explosion that does not scatter. Evolution does not supplement/complement/support creation(unless God created ardepithecus(sp-in the bible context) first which has been evolving to the current state of Homo sapiens). But creation can complement evolution;God created the "nothing" which exploded and "scattered away together" But why did he stop creating just after creating the nothing only? He could have just gone ahead and created everything? Hello Brother!
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Swenani		#26 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:29:15 AM
Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum		Muriel wrote: Swenani wrote: Muriel wrote: newfarer wrote: what triggered the big bang? Nothing exploded and then instead of the remnants of the nothing (which exploded) scattering away from each other the remnants of the nothing (which exploded) clumped and stuck together. Some explosion that was. Explosion of nothing. Explosion that gathers. Explosion that does not scatter. Evolution does not supplement/complement/support creation(unless God created ardepithecus(sp-in the bible context) first which has been evolving to the current state of Homo sapiens). But creation can complement evolution;God created the "nothing" which exploded and "scattered away together" But why did he stop creating just after creating the nothing only? He could have just gone ahead and created everything? Hello Brother! He created the nothing and left it to evolve! If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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tycho		#27 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:31:08 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		Tokyo wrote: tycho wrote: Tokyo wrote: Interesting .... Nobody is absolutely certain regarding origin of life. The origin of life can't be answered with certainty. In fact humanity only tries to answer a more fundamental question. The question of meaning and experience. Totally agree with you @Tycho. nobody , I repeat nobody including @AlphaDoti or Pope, Theists or Atheists knows anything about AfterLife. There's no 'afterlife' only life and death. And death is the alienation of Man from life as a consequence of self consciousness and the knowledge of good and evil. Death isn't about the morgue, it's about the heart of Man being at conflict with itself. Life is perfect harmony. @Jaggernaut, faith isn't taught anywhere. Faith is the experience of nature and the assimilation of this experience into our cognitive facilities. @ballistic, the essence of Genesis doesn't change a bit, but the form of the narrative may change to suit the metaphor of our time.
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Muriel		#28 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:32:15 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142		Swenani wrote: Muriel wrote: Swenani wrote: Muriel wrote: newfarer wrote: what triggered the big bang? Nothing exploded and then instead of the remnants of the nothing (which exploded) scattering away from each other the remnants of the nothing (which exploded) clumped and stuck together. Some explosion that was. Explosion of nothing. Explosion that gathers. Explosion that does not scatter. Evolution does not supplement/complement/support creation(unless God created ardepithecus(sp-in the bible context) first which has been evolving to the current state of Homo sapiens). But creation can complement evolution;God created the "nothing" which exploded and "scattered away together" But why did he stop creating just after creating the nothing only? He could have just gone ahead and created everything? Hello Brother! He created the nothing and left it to evolve! Laugh Laugh Laugh
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tycho		#29 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:39:56 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		Muriel wrote: Swenani wrote: Muriel wrote: newfarer wrote: what triggered the big bang? Nothing exploded and then instead of the remnants of the nothing (which exploded) scattering away from each other the remnants of the nothing (which exploded) clumped and stuck together. Some explosion that was. Explosion of nothing. Explosion that gathers. Explosion that does not scatter. Evolution does not supplement/complement/support creation(unless God created ardepithecus(sp-in the bible context) first which has been evolving to the current state of Homo sapiens). But creation can complement evolution;God created the "nothing" which exploded and "scattered away together" But why did he stop creating just after creating the nothing only? He could have just gone ahead and created everything? Hello Brother! Hello Muriel! 'Evolution', 'Big bang', these aren't valuable because they are facts. They are valuable because they are conceptual models that are more or less consistent with a prevailing understanding of nature offered by what we call 'Science'. These models are competing with the creation narrative every time, and as Man is a tool maker he can only prefer tools that further his cause with the least internal contradiction. So in this case he must change his metaphor to survive.
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Muriel		#30 Posted : Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:34:43 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142		tycho wrote: Muriel wrote: Swenani wrote: Muriel wrote: newfarer wrote: what triggered the big bang? Nothing exploded and then instead of the remnants of the nothing (which exploded) scattering away from each other the remnants of the nothing (which exploded) clumped and stuck together. Some explosion that was. Explosion of nothing. Explosion that gathers. Explosion that does not scatter. Evolution does not supplement/complement/support creation(unless God created ardepithecus(sp-in the bible context) first which has been evolving to the current state of Homo sapiens). But creation can complement evolution;God created the "nothing" which exploded and "scattered away together" But why did he stop creating just after creating the nothing only? He could have just gone ahead and created everything? Hello Brother! Hello Muriel! 'Evolution', 'Big bang', these aren't valuable because they are facts. They are valuable because they are conceptual models that are more or less consistent with a prevailing understanding of nature offered by what we call 'Science'. These models are competing with the creation narrative every time, and as Man is a tool maker he can only prefer tools that further his cause with the least internal contradiction. So in this case he must change his metaphor to survive. Since its a 'prevailing' understanding, it flows, changes, adjusts as suits the times and places. It may not be true in the future. So why even bother with it? Bad tools, and knowledge, make the job only harder.
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