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Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:No, virginity is not a big deal to me. But it was a big deal to God in Bible Numbers 31:35. I'm not the one who wrote that verse.
So tell us, how did the soldiers in the field confirmed woman has not known a man intimately (Numbers 31:35)?
It is not about me or you here. So your questions (a) and (b) are irrelevant. No indication is given how they were determined to be virgins but all indications are given that they were nonetheless treated with respect, dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity foreign and unknown to Muslim men on their treatement of muslim women. Muslim men who only think of rape, sex, virgins as did Mohammed. Your whole reply tried to answer whether God instructed soldiers to rape, but you did not answer the question: how did the soldiers determined virginity? The other question whether God instructed the soldiers to kill little children? Bible Numbers 31:15-17: Kill all boys: "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones." Kill all little girls: "And kill every woman who has known a man intimately, kill." Keep young women only: "But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately." No indication is given how they were determined to be virgins but all indications are given that they were nonetheless treated with respect, dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity foreign and unknown to Muslim men on their treatement of muslim women. Muslim men who only think of rape, sex, virgins as did Mohammed. @muriel, so the murdering of girls who have known a man intimately is "treatment" with respect of the abducted virgin girls, eh? It is 'respectful treatment" indeed for the abducted girls after murder of their young sibling brothers and sisters together with their parents. Are you for real? How is killing somebody's young boys and girls and those who have known a man intimately "dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity"? You do that to somebody then you abduct them and call it "dignified"? Alphdoti! You are a funny guy, you know that? You are so full of fallacies you are the poster boy for madness. What you are saying is the fallacy of Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Read briefly about it here Ati because the ones alive were treated well therefore the dead ones were also treated in like manner! And you proceed to formulate hypotheses over it! It's your own words @muriel! In your own words, you said the abducted girls were " nonetheless treated with respect, dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity". What humanity is there after killing the girls' little brothers and sisters? What humanity is there after killing the girls' parents and mother because of course the mothers had known man intimately? Why didn't the soldiers go with the other little girls? Is it because the little ones are liability, because they got to feed them and bring them up, no time for that? And what did they do with the virgin girls after they treated them "with respect, dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity"?
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alphadoti is a winner; absolute winner. LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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AlphDoti wrote:
It's your own words @muriel! In your own words, you said the abducted girls were "nonetheless treated with respect, dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity".
What humanity is there after killing the girls' little brothers and sisters? What humanity is there after killing the girls' parents and mother because of course the mothers had known man intimately?
Why didn't the soldiers go with the other little girls? Is it because the little ones are liability, because they got to feed them and bring them up, no time for that?
And what did they do with the virgin girls after they treated them "with respect, dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity"?
Yes. My own words. I know what I meant. The ones alive were treated well. So well they could not have been violated in any form, way or type. So well was their handling that muslim men convulse and revolt at the thought of it. That is exactly what I meant. And what did they do with the virgin girls after they treated them with respect, dignity and consideration? They continued treating them with respect, dignity and consideration. Oh, and feeding them, if it has to be spelt out to you, cannot be separated from benevolent treatment. I was and still am rebuffing your claim that they were raped. A claim you seem no longer interested in pursuing further. Just as you do with the issue of the boy that allah ransomed with a great sacrifice. I know you. You will not confuse me. You will not run rings around me. I will yank my chain and you will keel over.
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kyt wrote:alphadoti is a winner; absolute winner. Admin ought to create The Wazua Cavil Awards. Alphdoti will be the deserving, undisputed winner for all time.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:
It's your own words @muriel! In your own words, you said the abducted girls were "nonetheless treated with respect, dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity".
What humanity is there after killing the girls' little brothers and sisters? What humanity is there after killing the girls' parents and mother because of course the mothers had known man intimately?
Why didn't the soldiers go with the other little girls? Is it because the little ones are liability, because they got to feed them and bring them up, no time for that?
And what did they do with the virgin girls after they treated them "with respect, dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity"?
Yes. My own words. I know what I meant. The ones alive were treated well. So well they could not have been violated in any form, way or type. So well was their handling that muslim men convulse and revolt at the thought of it. That is exactly what I meant. And what did they do with the virgin girls after they treated them with respect, dignity and consideration? They continued treating them with respect, dignity and consideration. Oh, and feeding them, if it has to be spelt out to you, cannot be separated from benevolent treatment. I was and still am rebuffing your claim that they were raped. A claim you seem no longer interested in pursuing further. Just as you do with the issue of the boy that allah ransomed with a great sacrifice. I know you. You will not confuse me. You will not run rings around me. I will yank my chain and you will keel over. @muriel you said " The ones alive were treated well". So the soldiers after saving for themselves 32,000 girls, after that they never touched them, they treated them like kittens telling them " Hey young girls, your families were murdered to save you. To bring you here to be treated with respect. Look where you came from, it was a terrible place. Here, you will just eat, sleep, and play. Nothing more until you die naturally. It's a wonderful place!" 
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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[quote=ecstacy]IS poster Sex jihadists want to return home. Link - http://www.itv.com/news/...-joining-islamic-state/[/quote] The women had voluntarily traveled to syria to have sexual relations with as many as 100 militants before they saw 'haiwezekani'. To one virginity is 'no big deal' to the other, well, as many as 100 men is 'no big deal'.
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Muriel wrote:[quote=ecstacy]IS poster Sex jihadists want to return home. Link - http://www.itv.com/news/...-joining-islamic-state/[/quote] The women had voluntarily traveled to syria to have sexual relations with as many as 100 militants before they saw 'haiwezekani'. To one virginity is 'no big deal' to the other, well, as many as 100 men is 'no big deal'. Thought it was one mujahideen with 72 virgins but it seems its now one virgin with 100 mujahideen!!!! If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Muriel wrote:The women had voluntarily traveled to syria to have sexual relations with as many as 100 militants before they saw 'haiwezekani'. To one virginity is 'no big deal' to the other, well, as many as 100 men is 'no big deal'. You cannot loose right? Are you not the one who always say let adult people do what they wish? It's better the girls traveled by themselves and not abducted by your Bible soldiers after killing their little siblings? Or you would rather see them be killed now that they are not virgins, " they have known a man intimately" as per your verse Numbers 31:15-17. Even when you are shown abominations, you still argue about that crap? I can show you where we find a very amazing recipe given by your book to eat i.e. fresh sh*t.  
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote:
You cannot loose right? Are you not the one who always say let adult people do what they wish? It's better the girls traveled by themselves and not abducted by your Bible soldiers after killing their little siblings? Or you would rather see them be killed now that they are not virgins, "they have known a man intimately" as per your verse Numbers 31:15-17. Even when you are shown abominations, you still argue about that crap? I can show you where we find a very amazing recipe given by your book to eat i.e. fresh sh*t.
What!?? Oh dear! Laugh Laugh Laugh You did not remember that Allah's angels write down your speech? Alhumdulilah! Bismillah! Mash’Allah! Subhan’Allah! Those are the appropriate words for a muslim. But of course you are a zalimun so you do not know them. Laugh
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:
You cannot loose right? Are you not the one who always say let adult people do what they wish? It's better the girls traveled by themselves and not abducted by your Bible soldiers after killing their little siblings? Or you would rather see them be killed now that they are not virgins, "they have known a man intimately" as per your verse Numbers 31:15-17. Even when you are shown abominations, you still argue about that crap? I can show you where we find a very amazing recipe given by your book to eat i.e. fresh sh*t.
What!?? Oh dear! Laugh Laugh Laugh You did not remember that Allah's angels write down your speech? Alhumdulilah! Bismillah! Mash’Allah! Subhan’Allah! Those are the appropriate words for a muslim. But of course you are a zalimun so you do not know them. Laugh @muriel, why are you surprised, you didn't know there is such sh*t inside there, right? I was just reminding you of the recipe in case your Pastor has never read that verse in church. Maybe you can remind him to send a delegation to the church scholars to amend it, you know  In the meantime, let me take you back and remind you that no one even asked you how the alive, virgin girls were treated. However, you went ahead and said " they could not have been violated". You added that " ..they continued treating them with respect, dignity and consideration. Oh, and feeding them.". What you do to the girls after you wipe out their family is another question. What you are avoiding here is:1. Little boys killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD 2. Little girls killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD 3. Women who have known a man killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD 4. Men regardless of age killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD Questions which are unanswered are:1. Why didn't the soldiers take the little girls? Is it because the little ones are liability, because they got to feed them and bring them up, no time for that? 2. How did the soldiers determined the mothers who were killed had slept with a man? 3. How did the soldiers determined that the young women had not known a man intimately? 4. What humanity is there after killing the girls' little brothers and sisters and their mothers and their fathers? 5. What did they do with the virgin girls after they treated them " with respect, dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity", what did they do with them afterwards? 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:
You cannot loose right? Are you not the one who always say let adult people do what they wish? It's better the girls traveled by themselves and not abducted by your Bible soldiers after killing their little siblings? Or you would rather see them be killed now that they are not virgins, "they have known a man intimately" as per your verse Numbers 31:15-17. Even when you are shown abominations, you still argue about that crap? I can show you where we find a very amazing recipe given by your book to eat i.e. fresh sh*t.
What!?? Oh dear! Laugh Laugh Laugh You did not remember that Allah's angels write down your speech? Alhumdulilah! Bismillah! Mash’Allah! Subhan’Allah! Those are the appropriate words for a muslim. But of course you are a zalimun so you do not know them. Laugh @muriel, why are you surprised, you didn't know there is such sh*t inside there, right? I was just reminding you of the recipe in case your Pastor has never read that verse in church. Maybe you can remind him to send a delegation to the church scholars to amend it, you know In the meantime, let me take you back and remind you that no one even asked you how the alive, virgin girls were treated. However, you went ahead and said " they could not have been violated". You added that " ..they continued treating them with respect, dignity and consideration. Oh, and feeding them.". What you do to the girls after you wipe out their family is another question. What you are avoiding here is:1. Little boys killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD 2. Little girls killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD 3. Women who have known a man killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD 4. Men regardless of age killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD Questions which are unanswered are:1. Why didn't the soldiers take the little girls? Is it because the little ones are liability, because they got to feed them and bring them up, no time for that? 2. How did the soldiers determined the mothers who were killed had slept with a man? 3. How did the soldiers determined that the young women had not known a man intimately? 4. What humanity is there after killing the girls' little brothers and sisters and their mothers and their fathers? 5. What did they do with the virgin girls after they treated them " with respect, dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity", what did they do with them afterwards? Ahmad Deedat Combat Kit Against Bible Thumpers
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:@muriel, why are you surprised, you didn't know there is such sh*t inside there, right? I was just reminding you of the recipe in case your Pastor has never read that verse in church. Maybe you can remind him to send a delegation to the church scholars to amend it, you know In the meantime, let me take you back and remind you that no one even asked you how the alive, virgin girls were treated. However, you went ahead and said " they could not have been violated". You added that " ..they continued treating them with respect, dignity and consideration. Oh, and feeding them.". What you do to the girls after you wipe out their family is another question. What you are avoiding here is:1. Little boys killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD 2. Little girls killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD 3. Women who have known a man killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD 4. Men regardless of age killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD Questions which are unanswered are:1. Why didn't the soldiers take the little girls? Is it because the little ones are liability, because they got to feed them and bring them up, no time for that? 2. How did the soldiers determined the mothers who were killed had slept with a man? 3. How did the soldiers determined that the young women had not known a man intimately? 4. What humanity is there after killing the girls' little brothers and sisters and their mothers and their fathers? 5. What did they do with the virgin girls after they treated them " with respect, dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity", what did they do with them afterwards? Yes. What I am avoiding? Questions which are unanswered? Ummmm ,,,,, like Allah ransoming a certain boy with a great sacrifice? Isn't that also a question being avoided and yet unanswered? I have not answered anything else that you are bugging me to answer because I have merely indulged you to answer the rape issue that you yourself brought up. I note with relish that you are not pursuing it anymore. Like I said, you will not confuse me. I am well acquainted with your penchant for subsidiary matters when the direction of the main issue being discussed is not going your way - you brought up the issue of rape and that is the issue I have taken you up on. Any additional issue like the ones you are raising now can be dealt with after you and I make some progress on the pending issue of Allah, Abraham and the boy.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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symbols wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:
You cannot loose right? Are you not the one who always say let adult people do what they wish? It's better the girls traveled by themselves and not abducted by your Bible soldiers after killing their little siblings? Or you would rather see them be killed now that they are not virgins, "they have known a man intimately" as per your verse Numbers 31:15-17. Even when you are shown abominations, you still argue about that crap? I can show you where we find a very amazing recipe given by your book to eat i.e. fresh sh*t.
What!?? Oh dear! Laugh Laugh Laugh You did not remember that Allah's angels write down your speech? Alhumdulilah! Bismillah! Mash’Allah! Subhan’Allah! Those are the appropriate words for a muslim. But of course you are a zalimun so you do not know them. Laugh @muriel, why are you surprised, you didn't know there is such sh*t inside there, right? I was just reminding you of the recipe in case your Pastor has never read that verse in church. Maybe you can remind him to send a delegation to the church scholars to amend it, you know In the meantime, let me take you back and remind you that no one even asked you how the alive, virgin girls were treated. However, you went ahead and said " they could not have been violated". You added that " ..they continued treating them with respect, dignity and consideration. Oh, and feeding them.". What you do to the girls after you wipe out their family is another question. What you are avoiding here is:1. Little boys killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD 2. Little girls killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD 3. Women who have known a man killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD 4. Men regardless of age killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD Questions which are unanswered are:1. Why didn't the soldiers take the little girls? Is it because the little ones are liability, because they got to feed them and bring them up, no time for that? 2. How did the soldiers determined the mothers who were killed had slept with a man? 3. How did the soldiers determined that the young women had not known a man intimately? 4. What humanity is there after killing the girls' little brothers and sisters and their mothers and their fathers? 5. What did they do with the virgin girls after they treated them " with respect, dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity", what did they do with them afterwards? Ahmad Deedat Combat Kit Against Bible Thumpers Laugh Laugh Laugh
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:
You cannot loose right? Are you not the one who always say let adult people do what they wish? It's better the girls traveled by themselves and not abducted by your Bible soldiers after killing their little siblings? Or you would rather see them be killed now that they are not virgins, "they have known a man intimately" as per your verse Numbers 31:15-17. Even when you are shown abominations, you still argue about that crap? I can show you where we find a very amazing recipe given by your book to eat i.e. fresh sh*t.
What!?? Oh dear! Laugh Laugh Laugh You did not remember that Allah's angels write down your speech? Alhumdulilah! Bismillah! Mash’Allah! Subhan’Allah! Those are the appropriate words for a muslim. But of course you are a zalimun so you do not know them. Laugh @muriel, why are you surprised, you didn't know there is such sh*t inside there, right? I was just reminding you of the recipe in case your Pastor has never read that verse in church. Maybe you can remind him to send a delegation to the church scholars to amend it, you know In the meantime, let me take you back and remind you that no one even asked you how the alive, virgin girls were treated. However, you went ahead and said " they could not have been violated". You added that " ..they continued treating them with respect, dignity and consideration. Oh, and feeding them.". What you do to the girls after you wipe out their family is another question. What you are avoiding here is:1. Little boys killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD 2. Little girls killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD 3. Women who have known a man killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD 4. Men regardless of age killed by the soldiers as COMMANDED BY GOD Questions which are unanswered are:1. Why didn't the soldiers take the little girls? Is it because the little ones are liability, because they got to feed them and bring them up, no time for that? 2. How did the soldiers determined the mothers who were killed had slept with a man? 3. How did the soldiers determined that the young women had not known a man intimately? 4. What humanity is there after killing the girls' little brothers and sisters and their mothers and their fathers? 5. What did they do with the virgin girls after they treated them " with respect, dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity", what did they do with them afterwards? Ahmad Deedat Combat Kit Against Bible Thumpers Laugh Laugh Laugh You were not able to answer my 5 questions above. Just know there is so much that can be exposed. So next time you come thumping your chest, be prepared. Next time you try to fool people around, know we know it    
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The Dutch public prosecutor has said that motorbike gang members who have reportedly joined Kurds battling the Islamic State group in Iraq are not necessarily committing any crime. "Joining a foreign armed force was previously punishable, now it's no longer forbidden," said public prosecutor spokesman Wim de Bruin. He further stated "You just can't join a fight against the Netherlands," after reports emerged that Dutch bikers from the 'No Surrender gang' were fighting IS insurgents alongside Kurds in northern Iraq. Vigilantes can now go do what the Turkish Govt has refused to do for the Kurds. Link - http://rt.com/news/19598...erlands-biker-gang-isis/
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AlphDoti wrote:You were not able to answer my 5 questions above. Just know there is so much that can be exposed. So next time you come thumping your chest, be prepared. Next time you try to fool people around, know we know it Questions which are unanswered are: 1. Why didn't the soldiers take the little girls? Is it because the little ones are liability, because they got to feed them and bring them up, no time for that? - They were not taken? 2. How did the soldiers determined the mothers who were killed had slept with a man? - not indicated. 3. How did the soldiers determined that the young women had not known a man intimately? - not indicated. 4. What humanity is there after killing the girls' little brothers and sisters and their mothers and their fathers? - the humanity is in the treatment of the surviving girls after the fact. The killing of their brothers and sisters and parents is an act of judgment. 5. What did they do with the virgin girls after they treated them "with respect, dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity", what did they do with them afterwards? - they continued treating them with respect dignity etc till they died of old age. Why would I thump my chest when you are more 'thumpable'?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Kurdish peshmerga fighters: women on the frontline - in picturesHow come Guru has not posted these photos of Kurdish anti-ISIS women in the frontline? She has been showing us photos of 'comfort' women - appropriately attired in burkas - with guns. Women who are not even allowed to leave home in the first place. Burkas facilitate dexterity and vision - key personal qualities in the battlefield? 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:You were not able to answer my 5 questions above. Just know there is so much that can be exposed. So next time you come thumping your chest, be prepared. Next time you try to fool people around, know we know it Questions which are unanswered are: 1. Why didn't the soldiers take the little girls? Is it because the little ones are liability, because they got to feed them and bring them up, no time for that? - They were not taken? 2. How did the soldiers determined the mothers who were killed had slept with a man? - not indicated. 3. How did the soldiers determined that the young women had not known a man intimately? - not indicated. 4. What humanity is there after killing the girls' little brothers and sisters and their mothers and their fathers? - the humanity is in the treatment of the surviving girls after the fact. The killing of their brothers and sisters and parents is an act of judgment. 5. What did they do with the virgin girls after they treated them "with respect, dignity, and consideration, aspects of humanity", what did they do with them afterwards? - they continued treating them with respect dignity etc till they died of old age. Why would I thump my chest when you are more 'thumpable'? 1. You ask " They were not taken?" You mean you don't read your Bible? It says in Numbers 31:15-17: "And Moses said to them: have you kept all the women alive? Now therefore kill every male among the little ones." 2. You answered " No indicated", so why do you make noise when I assume they raped them to know they had not known a man before. If you argue this, then give us how they determined. But if you don't know, then leave us to have a guess. Ask @swenani, he will tell you how to tell if a woman is virgin or not. 3. You answered " No indicated". Since you don't know how they determined, then your guess is as good as mine. And my guess is mine, and your guess is yours. No need for you to jump to the roof over my guess. 4. You answered " The killing of their brothers and sisters and parents is an act of judgment". It is good to know how your Bible carries out judgement: " kill innocent babies. And take away their virgin sisters". Just like the white Police man shoot unarmed black man, and that's judgement. Internet will not forget this one 5. You answered "they treated the abducted girls with respect dignity until they died" 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Muriel wrote:Kurdish peshmerga fighters: women on the frontline - in picturesHow come Guru has not posted these photos of Kurdish anti-ISIS women in the frontline? She has been showing us photos of 'comfort' women - appropriately attired in burkas - with guns. Women who are not even allowed to leave home in the first place. Burkas facilitate dexterity and vision - key personal qualities in the battlefield? @muriel you know if you could just inform us of the happenings in this ISIS stuff, we would appreciate. But if you bring in phobic stuff, then we will show you what you didn't know.  
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