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ICC HE Uhuru Kenyatta PORK - 12th November
Rahatupu
#661 Posted : Wednesday, October 08, 2014 5:43:39 PM
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limanika wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
JUDGE OZAKI: ' Do you know of any jurisprudence that support your request for the indefinite adjournment of the case? '

ICC Prosecutor: ' Their is no case law or statute that i know of which support my request madam president '

^^^^This to me was a give away....a poignant indicator of what the judges have in mind!
an indirect admission by both judges and otp that they would like the case to end. Could also be a discreet way of sending message to paymasters the direction the case is taking, so any necessary calls 4rom majuu can be made b4 ICC errs in final decision
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@Limanika, Oh yeah yes!! Whats on the cards, the promises made to cousin? Whats more to extract like right now??
murchr
#662 Posted : Wednesday, October 08, 2014 5:53:53 PM
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Kratos wrote:
Media reporting on the case so far by CNN, BBC and Al Jazeera)

1. Regarding the dropped witnesses most reporting is focused on those who allegedly have been bribed or intimidated. I have so far heard only one mention of those who have been dropped because they said they had been coached or promised monetary rewards.

2. All these media houses are concentrating on the prosecutors report that Mr Kenyatta has used his influence as President to withhold "crucial"evidence. None of these three media houses are interrogating the fact that a) Mr Kenyatta was not president during the collection of evidence and confirmation of charges stage b)it is awkward that a case has been confirmed yet without sufficient evidence c) It is never the responsibility of the accused to incriminate himself by providing evidence against self.

3. Justice for the victims: None of these media houses are concerned on whether it could be possible that Mr Kenyatta is actually innocent and thus needs a fair trial. Justice for victims does not mean prosecuting a possibly innocent person just for the sake.


He who pays the piper calls the tune.



Indeed
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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limanika
#663 Posted : Wednesday, October 08, 2014 5:59:37 PM
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Rahatupu wrote:
limanika wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
JUDGE OZAKI: ' Do you know of any jurisprudence that support your request for the indefinite adjournment of the case? '

ICC Prosecutor: ' Their is no case law or statute that i know of which support my request madam president '

^^^^This to me was a give away....a poignant indicator of what the judges have in mind!
an indirect admission by both judges and otp that they would like the case to end. Could also be a discreet way of sending message to paymasters the direction the case is taking, so any necessary calls 4rom majuu can be made b4 ICC errs in final decision
.


@Limanika, Oh yeah yes!! Whats on the cards, the promises made to cousin? Whats more to extract like right now??
By majuu here we mean the EU, they fund ICC by over 70%, Africa's contribution almost 0%...and kasin's word can't carry much weight here coz Uncle Sam treats ICc with contempt and doesn't contribute any funds. Things are still thick, kamwana should have called Brussels not Washington
Jus Blazin
#664 Posted : Wednesday, October 08, 2014 6:35:35 PM
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limanika wrote:
Rahatupu wrote:
limanika wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
JUDGE OZAKI: ' Do you know of any jurisprudence that support your request for the indefinite adjournment of the case? '

ICC Prosecutor: ' Their is no case law or statute that i know of which support my request madam president '

^^^^This to me was a give away....a poignant indicator of what the judges have in mind!
an indirect admission by both judges and otp that they would like the case to end. Could also be a discreet way of sending message to paymasters the direction the case is taking, so any necessary calls 4rom majuu can be made b4 ICC errs in final decision
.


@Limanika, Oh yeah yes!! Whats on the cards, the promises made to cousin? Whats more to extract like right now??
By majuu here we mean the EU, they fund ICC by over 70%, Africa's contribution almost 0%...and kasin's word can't carry much weight here coz Uncle Sam treats ICc with contempt and doesn't contribute any funds. Things are still thick, kamwana should have called Brussels not Washington

What do you mean things are thick? At the end it boils down to evidence.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Jus Blazin
#665 Posted : Wednesday, October 08, 2014 6:40:30 PM
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Shak wrote:
I laughed when the lawyer for the victims suggested that the prosecution withdraws this case and looks for an easier one to prosecute!

He was saying that the prosecution may withdraw the case and look for an easier one to prosecute but that would be an injustice to the victims.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
limanika
#666 Posted : Wednesday, October 08, 2014 6:58:37 PM
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Jus Blazin wrote:
limanika wrote:
Rahatupu wrote:
limanika wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
JUDGE OZAKI: ' Do you know of any jurisprudence that support your request for the indefinite adjournment of the case? '

ICC Prosecutor: ' Their is no case law or statute that i know of which support my request madam president '

^^^^This to me was a give away....a poignant indicator of what the judges have in mind!
an indirect admission by both judges and otp that they would like the case to end. Could also be a discreet way of sending message to paymasters the direction the case is taking, so any necessary calls 4rom majuu can be made b4 ICC errs in final decision
.


@Limanika, Oh yeah yes!! Whats on the cards, the promises made to cousin? Whats more to extract like right now??
By majuu here we mean the EU, they fund ICC by over 70%, Africa's contribution almost 0%...and kasin's word can't carry much weight here coz Uncle Sam treats ICc with contempt and doesn't contribute any funds. Things are still thick, kamwana should have called Brussels not Washington

What do you mean things are thick? At the end it boils down to evidence.


Even the average man in Siberia knows this case should have ended eons coz there is no evidence.
The reason why things are still thick…is not because there will be conviction at the end, but that someone seated huko majuu in rocking chair may just throw a dice to help decide if the matter should be made to drag for years.. Coz this we have come to know - it doesn’t always boil down to evidence at ICC….and reality is that current and immediate past GoK is not in good books with EU
McReggae
#667 Posted : Wednesday, October 08, 2014 7:00:30 PM
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Euge wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Toxicity wrote:
I think they are out to fry Kamwana!


Nope, in my opinion they are going to defer the case until such a time that the garment can co-operate......welcome to Walker's life presidency!!!!


Mc Doba your 411 ni kali!!!!!!!!!!!


It had always been pointing in that direction!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Much Know
#668 Posted : Wednesday, October 08, 2014 7:50:10 PM
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Prior jurisprudence means little particularly because this is a "precedent setting" case in international law(first sitting president in an international court), secondly the court obviously feels it needs to set a precedent (and massage their egos as well as fart on their powerful seats), particularly because technology is heavily involved.

Feel like placing a wager on:- trial via VIDEO CONFERENCING
Ras Kienyeji Man
Jus Blazin
#669 Posted : Wednesday, October 08, 2014 7:50:26 PM
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Joined: 10/23/2008
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limanika wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
limanika wrote:
Rahatupu wrote:
limanika wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
JUDGE OZAKI: ' Do you know of any jurisprudence that support your request for the indefinite adjournment of the case? '

ICC Prosecutor: ' Their is no case law or statute that i know of which support my request madam president '

^^^^This to me was a give away....a poignant indicator of what the judges have in mind!
an indirect admission by both judges and otp that they would like the case to end. Could also be a discreet way of sending message to paymasters the direction the case is taking, so any necessary calls 4rom majuu can be made b4 ICC errs in final decision
.


@Limanika, Oh yeah yes!! Whats on the cards, the promises made to cousin? Whats more to extract like right now??
By majuu here we mean the EU, they fund ICC by over 70%, Africa's contribution almost 0%...and kasin's word can't carry much weight here coz Uncle Sam treats ICc with contempt and doesn't contribute any funds. Things are still thick, kamwana should have called Brussels not Washington

What do you mean things are thick? At the end it boils down to evidence.


Even the average man in Siberia knows this case should have ended eons coz there is no evidence.
The reason why things are still thick…is not because there will be conviction at the end, but that someone seated huko majuu in rocking chair may just throw a dice to help decide if the matter should be made to drag for years.. Coz this we have come to know - it doesn’t always boil down to evidence at ICC….and reality is that current and immediate past GoK is not in good books with EU

I think you are reading too much into this. If at the end there'll be no conviction, then things are not as thick as you imply. You do know this is about saving face, not being in good books.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Jus Blazin
#670 Posted : Wednesday, October 08, 2014 7:56:01 PM
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Joined: 10/23/2008
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Much Know wrote:
Prior jurisprudence means little particularly because this is a "precedent setting" case in international law(first sitting president in an international court), secondly the court obviously feels it needs to set a precedent (and massage their egos as well as fart on their powerful seats), particularly because technology is heavily involved.

Feel like placing a wager on:- trial via VIDEO CONFERENCING

Adjourn indefinitely.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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