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Rank: Member Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 399 Location: Where everyone knows you
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I think the no vote will win.
This Yes vote is mostly driven by emotion, not reality on the ground.
The reasons why I think the No vote will win are:
- Scotland only contribute less than 10% of the UK GDP, yet get a LOT more in terms of financing.
- They will have to set up their own health care, police, army,Social security,border posts, passports AND currency.
- They will be lumbered with their share of the the large UK debit, which is almost 100% of the UK GDP.
- The North sea oil is not only in Scotland. England will have a big portion of it. It is running out anyway.
- They will suffer from tourism. Tourists come to England and visit Scotland. With extra border controls very few will travel there.
- They are not likely to get entry into the EURO zone. Spain will veto that for sure.
- What currency will they use. The Scottish pound. It will be a joke.
- They are getting a lot of foreign investment at the moment. This is because they are a part of the UK. On their own, this will be stop.
- What will happen to people who live in Scotland, but work in England and the other way round.
The NO vote is actually a win win situation for Scotland. They stay part of the UK, with all the benefits, and get extra devolution powers as being promised.
Wait for the results
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/17/2010 Posts: 1,163 Location: Sudan
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MatataMingi wrote:I think the no vote will win.
This Yes vote is mostly driven by emotion, not reality on the ground.
The reasons why I think the No vote will win are:
- Scotland only contribute less than 10% of the UK GDP, yet get a LOT more in terms of financing.
- They will have to set up their own health care, police, army,Social security,border posts, passports AND currency.Nothing difficult with this, Even poor South Sudan are stting these systems
- They will be lumbered with their share of the the large UK debit, which is almost 100% of the UK GDP.
- The North sea oil is not only in Scotland. England will have a big portion of it. It is running out anywaytime frame of run-out-date, 2030,2099,3020?.
- They will suffer from tourism. Tourists come to England and visit Scotland. With extra border controls very few will travel theretourists may decide to go to Scotland direct, or the Scots may abolish the Visa requirement.
- They are not likely to get entry into the EURO zone. Spain will veto that for sure.This is the biggest assumption of them all, Catalunya is breaking even before Scotland applies for EU membership
- What currency will they use. The Scottish pound. It will be a jokeLOL, even Somali have a currency. Its not rocket science to start own currency. Do you know when the Euro became operational?.
- They are getting a lot of foreign investment at the moment. This is because they are a part of the UK. On their own, this will be stopAnother assumption, actually bordering on a lie.
- What will happen to people who live in Scotland, but work in England and the other way roundA bridge yet to be crossed, and that will definitely be crossed.
The NO vote is actually a win win situation for Scotland. They stay part of the UK, with all the benefits, and get extra devolution powers as being promisedStart counting 1,2,3.....300yrs and you will understand them.
Wait for the results Most of your statements are assumptions. Let them cross those bridges as a free people rather than the fake devolution that has not helped them for 300 yrs "Peace is our profession, War is our business" ...Unknown
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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hahaha... what kenya will that be? Central Kenya and Nairobi are the 2 places in Kenya that is synonymous with 'Kenya' possibly due to the fact that they have enjoyed power for such a long time. its like wishing London to secede.... it won't happen. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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harrydre wrote:a jubilant & a cordomite? Not in Kenya!   http://www.dailyrecord.c...s-internet-troll-4280094
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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masukuma wrote:hahaha... what kenya will that be? Central Kenya and Nairobi are the 2 places in Kenya that is synonymous with 'Kenya' possibly due to the fact that they have enjoyed power for such a long time. its like wishing London to secede.... it won't happen. Central wacha iende, they can combine with North Eastern and secede ili Kenyans can remain with Nairobi and the rest! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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washiku wrote:How is a YES vote likely to affect Kenya in various issues like Foreign investments, diplomacy, International trade etc? It depends on what Kenya and Kenyans want. But chances are we may not be having a strategic intent as yet. Kenya would prefer to wait and see. But I can imagine if 'Yes' wins, and given Catalania, Basque, Okinawa, Hong Kong, the Uighurs, . . . will put more pressure for autonomy, meaning the status quo will be under heavy pressure. The Kurds are already receiving support for autonomy. This is likely to lead in radical changes in the international finance system. 'Vulture funds' and other players may panic and press for gains before the worst happens. Given that we have plenty of debt, and England is weakening we may have to be innovative to survive an economic crisis. Sample Salmond's sentiments http://www.heraldscotlan...mark-on-history.25356341
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Impunity wrote:masukuma wrote:hahaha... what kenya will that be? Central Kenya and Nairobi are the 2 places in Kenya that is synonymous with 'Kenya' possibly due to the fact that they have enjoyed power for such a long time. its like wishing London to secede.... it won't happen. Central wacha iende, they can combine with North Eastern and secede ili Kenyans can remain with Nairobi and the rest! Nairobi sahau. You will be the first at Machakos Airport to board Mbukinya (Mbugua-Kinyanjui) to Siaya if it comes to that, since your 3rd hand Mark X wont get past Kangemi......while there you can secede. Nairobi utakuwa unaionea kwa map! TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 326 Location: Nairobi
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simonkabz wrote:Impunity wrote:masukuma wrote:hahaha... what kenya will that be? Central Kenya and Nairobi are the 2 places in Kenya that is synonymous with 'Kenya' possibly due to the fact that they have enjoyed power for such a long time. its like wishing London to secede.... it won't happen. Central wacha iende, they can combine with North Eastern and secede ili Kenyans can remain with Nairobi and the rest! Nairobi sahau. You will be the first at Machakos Airport to board Mbukinya ( Mbugua-Kinyanjui) to Siaya if it comes to that, since your 3rd hand Mark X wont get past Kangemi......while there you can secede. Nairobi utakuwa unaionea kwa map! Mbukinya = Mbuthia Kinyanjui
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