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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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AlphDoti wrote:simonkabz wrote:You are unable to answer hard questions and resort to deflecting. This is the same shit you were defending, now you disown it! Funny people! @simon, what am I defending, and what am I disowning?  You're funny  You have spent acres and acres of wazua cyber-space defending and justifying the evil activities of ISIS, and indicated that humans are not Allah's creation and should be killed like dogs, and that International law is a pile of crap....so much so that POWs must be shot dead in the head at poit blank range and the same shown to the world. Children of the disbelievers must be beheaded oh crap.......if not this you defend that other mad woman. Stop preaching Islam. You two have exposed another side of this fake religion I never knew about. Brothers in Lucifer. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote:
No, no, not too fast @muriel.
You see, this is the reality. Some parts of the Bible is the word of God. But the whole Bible is not the word of God. The Torah was the revelation which was given to Moses (peace be upon him). But unfortunately, this was corrupted, stories added, subtracted... and split into 5 books of the Old Testament. Then the original scrolls were burnt (read about the Nicea Creed, and Contanstine the Great).
Also the Injeel was the revelation which was given to Jesus Christ (peace be upon him). But that message was meant for that time and for those people, the Israelites. Unfortunately also, the Injeel was not preserved!
Where is the Injeel according to Jesus (pbuh)?
So if you investigate you will find who is the author of the current Gospel. The scholars of the Bible say various authors of each book. The Bible is derived from the Greek word Biblos. This means collection of books.
The present Bible according to scholars, is a mixture, it has:
- in some places the Word of God, which is the reminiscence (remainder) of the Torah or Injeel.
- it also contains the words of the prophets
- it also contain the words of the historians
- unfortunately, it even contains pornographic Pray d'oh! Liar
The Bible is a mixture.
So who is the author? Mainly human beings also wrote it (according to Christian scholars).
Alphdoti, I know where you want to go but I am the one with the leash around your neck. You will not go there. I asked you what do you think of "atonement" and "forgiven". I even hinted (in post #662) that you keep mohammed and islam in view when you talk back. I ask again, what do you think of "atonement" and "forgiven"?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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AlphDoti wrote:@muriel even you don't know that there is no original Torah anymore? But yes, we implement the Torah as it is supposed to be. I like the use of the word supposed, because it is no longer like that. You only have "kumbu-kumbu Ya Taurati"... just "remainder" So what we should be having is Torah according to prophet Moses (peace be upon him). Even your Christian Scholars say, the Torah, the Gospel you see in the Bible today has been written by human beings ( please don't misunderstand me, I know all scripture is written by men. But I mean source is not from God, not inspired). So we cannot attribute the complete Bible as the Word of God. But since every subsequent messenger made reference to, spoke about, commented on, pointed out and call attention to to previous scripture, we realized that when prophet Muhammad (pbuh) came, he made reference to Torah and Zabur and Injeel. So we know about what was in original Torah by reading the Quran. Alphdoti, Alphdoti, Alphdoti, To help you along, read the following passage with me: Quote:37:99 And [then] he said, "Indeed, I will go to [where I am ordered by] my Lord; He will guide me.
37:100 My Lord, grant me [a child] from among the righteous."
37:101 So We gave him good tidings of a forbearing boy.
37:102 And when he reached with him [the age of] exertion, he said, "O my son, indeed I have seen in a dream that I [must] sacrifice you, so see what you think." He said, "O my father, do as you are commanded. You will find me, if Allah wills, of the steadfast."
37:103 And when they had both submitted and he put him down upon his forehead,
37:104 We called to him, "O Abraham,
37:105 You have fulfilled the vision." Indeed, We thus reward the doers of good.
37:106 Indeed, this was the clear trial.
37:107 And We ransomed him with a great sacrifice,
37:108 And We left for him [favorable mention] among later generations:
37:109 "Peace upon Abraham."
37:110 Indeed, We thus reward the doers of good.
37:111 Indeed, he was of Our believing servants. This is part of the original torah, yes, in the Qur'an that mohammed pasted or edited. What do you think of the phrase " we ransomed him with a great sacrifice"? What do you think of " atonement" and " forgiven"? Alphdoti?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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How can anyone in their right minds support this kind of savagery? 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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jaggernaut wrote:How can anyone in their right minds support this kind of savagery? The will of allah the coward. Turns out Allah is Satan himself. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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ecstacy wrote:AlphDoti wrote:simonkabz wrote:You are unable to answer hard questions and resort to deflecting. This is the same shit you were defending, now you disown it! Funny people! @simon, what am I defending, and what am I disowning? You're funny @Alphadoti, according to you, was: 1. James beheaded or not? Yes/No. If Yes, by who? 2. Sotlof beheaded or not? Yes/No. If Yes, by who? @Alphadoti, wacha kujificha. Waiting for answers ^^^^ Allah likes brave warriors hata kama ni wa keyboard.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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ecstacy wrote:AlphDoti wrote:simonkabz wrote:You are unable to answer hard questions and resort to deflecting. This is the same shit you were defending, now you disown it! Funny people! @simon, what am I defending, and what am I disowning? You're funny @Alphadoti, according to you, was: 1. James beheaded or not? Yes/No. If Yes, by who? 2. Sotlof beheaded or not? Yes/No. If Yes, by who? 1. I don't know 2. I don't know. My guess is as good as yours. You posted alleged link, i gave you another one purporting the act as staged. So, you don't, I don't know. So let us follow the events with open mind. Sawa?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:AlphDoti wrote:simonkabz wrote:You are unable to answer hard questions and resort to deflecting. This is the same shit you were defending, now you disown it! Funny people! @simon, what am I defending, and what am I disowning? You're funny @Alphadoti, according to you, was: 1. James beheaded or not? Yes/No. If Yes, by who? 2. Sotlof beheaded or not? Yes/No. If Yes, by who? @Alphadoti, wacha kujificha. Waiting for answers ^^^^ Allah likes brave warriors hata kama ni wa keyboard.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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AlphDoti wrote:ecstacy wrote:AlphDoti wrote:simonkabz wrote:You are unable to answer hard questions and resort to deflecting. This is the same shit you were defending, now you disown it! Funny people! @simon, what am I defending, and what am I disowning? You're funny @Alphadoti, according to you, was: 1. James beheaded or not? Yes/No. If Yes, by who? 2. Sotlof beheaded or not? Yes/No. If Yes, by who? 1. I don't know 2. I don't know. My guess is as good as yours. You posted alleged link, i gave you another one purporting the act as staged. So, you don't, I don't know. So let us follow the events with open mind. Sawa? At this rate, does IS exist?
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