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FundamentAli
#191 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2012 10:44:04 AM
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Location: Nairobi
nostoppingthis wrote:
Under Kenyatta, the following were finance ministers:
1. James Gichuru(1963-9),
2. Mwai Kibaki(1969-78).

Mzee passed on in 1978, in comes Daniel Arap Moi. The following were finance ministers under him:
... 1. Mwai KIbaki(1978-1988),
2. George Saitoti(1988-1993),
3. Musalia Mudavadi(1993-1998),
4. Simeon Nyachae(1998-1999),
5. Masakhalia(1999-seven months),
6. Chris Okemo(1999-01),
7. Chris Obure(2001-2)

Finance ministers under KIbaki:
1. David Mwiraria(2003-6),
2. Amos Kimunya(2006-8)
3. Michuki(acting),
4. Uhuru Kenyatta(2008-12),
5. Robinson Githae(2012- ).

For the 24 years "tribal" tenure of Moi, he never had a single finance minister from Kalenjin community....

I recall Arthur Magugu was a finance minister once. He left a mark by not presenting the budget on the budget day
Lolest!
#192 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2012 10:53:31 AM
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Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
nostoppingthis wrote:
Under Kenyatta, the following were finance ministers:
1. James Gichuru(1963-9),
2. Mwai Kibaki(1969-78).

Mzee passed on in 1978, in comes Daniel Arap Moi. The following were finance ministers under him:
... 1. Mwai KIbaki(1978-1988),
2. George Saitoti(1988-1993),
3. Musalia Mudavadi(1993-1998),
4. Simeon Nyachae(1998-1999),
5. Masakhalia(1999-seven months),
6. Chris Okemo(1999-01),
7. Chris Obure(2001-2)

Finance ministers under KIbaki:
1. David Mwiraria(2003-6),
2. Amos Kimunya(2006-8)
3. Michuki(acting),
4. Uhuru Kenyatta(2008-12),
5. Robinson Githae(2012- ).

For the 24 years "tribal" tenure of Moi, he never had a single finance minister from Kalenjin community....


The excuse for this has been that Moi was a very hands on leader while Kenyatta and Kibaki were the opposite.

Thus why they appointed all their men around the most sensitive dockets of finance and (you forgot) internal security.

I reiterate my earlier point: Kibaki's biggest failure has been in failing to unite Kenyans and making appointments that made him look very similar to Kenyatta and Moi. The next President should give us a break from this.

While at it, please note Mwiraria is Meru and not Kikuyu!
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nostoppingthis
#193 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2012 11:07:14 AM
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Posts: 5,909
Location: Nairobi
Lolest! wrote:
nostoppingthis wrote:
Under Kenyatta, the following were finance ministers:
1. James Gichuru(1963-9),
2. Mwai Kibaki(1969-78).

Mzee passed on in 1978, in comes Daniel Arap Moi. The following were finance ministers under him:
... 1. Mwai KIbaki(1978-1988),
2. George Saitoti(1988-1993),
3. Musalia Mudavadi(1993-1998),
4. Simeon Nyachae(1998-1999),
5. Masakhalia(1999-seven months),
6. Chris Okemo(1999-01),
7. Chris Obure(2001-2)

Finance ministers under KIbaki:
1. David Mwiraria(2003-6),
2. Amos Kimunya(2006-8)
3. Michuki(acting),
4. Uhuru Kenyatta(2008-12),
5. Robinson Githae(2012- ).

For the 24 years "tribal" tenure of Moi, he never had a single finance minister from Kalenjin community....


The excuse for this has been that Moi was a very hands on leader while Kenyatta and Kibaki were the opposite.

Thus why they appointed all their men around the most sensitive dockets of finance and (you forgot) internal security.

I reiterate my earlier point: Kibaki's biggest failure has been in failing to unite Kenyans and making appointments that made him look very similar to Kenyatta and Moi. The next President should give us a break from this.

While at it, please note Mwiraria is Meru and not Kikuyu!


You are one objective individual, much appreciated....
Kaigangio
#194 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2012 11:08:27 AM
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Joined: 2/27/2007
Posts: 2,768
nostoppingthis wrote:
Under Kenyatta, the following were finance ministers:
1. James Gichuru(1963-9),
2. Mwai Kibaki(1969-78).

Mzee passed on in 1978, in comes Daniel Arap Moi. The following were finance ministers under him:
... 1. Mwai KIbaki(1978-1988),
2. George Saitoti(1988-1993),
3. Musalia Mudavadi(1993-1998),
4. Simeon Nyachae(1998-1999),
5. Masakhalia(1999-seven months),
6. Chris Okemo(1999-01),
7. Chris Obure(2001-2)

Finance ministers under KIbaki:
1. David Mwiraria(2003-6),
2. Amos Kimunya(2006-8)
3. Michuki(acting),
4. Uhuru Kenyatta(2008-12),
5. Robinson Githae(2012- ).

For the 24 years "tribal" tenure of Moi, he never had a single finance minister from Kalenjin community....


it is the likes of you who need to read the thread thoroughly and comprehend it...

"You Lazy (Intellectual) African Scum!"

on a lighter note Kenyas economic growth between

1963 to 1978 was about 7% on average. it was almost hitting 9% in 1978.

1978 to 2002 was on decline to 0% in 1993 up until 2002 when it recorded a misery and appaling -2%...

2002 to 2007 was 5% on average...

just check on the professional qualifications of the individuals who held those dockets during the positive growth eras!!!!!

individuals like you could lie but numbers don't....

...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
TAZ
#195 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2012 11:49:39 AM
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Posts: 4,152
@ Nostopping.....During Moi's era Kalenjins were almost everywhere in government offices, i don't believe i have to put figures/names for you to believe that. Besides look at the people you've mentioned Okemo, Obure, Mudavadi & Masakhlia.....how many scandals were there when these guys were there and what does that have to do with their tribes. Most people know what was Moi's style of leadership and it had nothing to do with regional balance, just covering his tracks and that of his allies....someone else is now trying to perfect that.

You, like Hassan also seem to forget that this is a coalition government, ODM and PNU decided to equally share the various ministries in Govt....MK ended up with Finance Ministry. PNU is largely represented in parliament by MPs from Gema, so what do you expect from him! I'm certain if Tuju was an MP he would be a Minister.
Jus Blazin
#196 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2012 12:07:40 PM
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Joined: 10/23/2008
Posts: 3,966
nostoppingthis wrote:

You are one objective individual, much appreciated....

So one becomes objective when they agree with you? That's very subjective. smile
But, like someone said, numbers don't lie, that's with respect to economic growth. And you'll be blind not to have seen the economy grow, what with all the information at your fingertips courtesy of the internet, news, etc.

nostoppingthis wrote:
@wakamau, are you saying in the baks error, the economy has grown!!!? seen the recent inflation rates ....for one petrol hit an all time high of almost 130..


Again, you seem to miss the point. When a country experiences economic growth, the resultant is increased demand for goods and services used in the economy because people are more liquid, have access to cheaper funds, and are getting richer. Using basic economics, when the demand is higher than normal supply, and knowing supply responds much slower than demand, that results to an increase in prices (as equilibrium is being sought). This increase in the level of prices over a period of time is what is called inflation.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
simonkabz
#197 Posted : Monday, September 01, 2014 4:09:10 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2007
Posts: 8,776
Location: Cameroon
Senator Hassan Omar says that President Uhuru Kenyatta's visit to Mombasa County was meant for Facebook and public display.

http://www.standardmedia...y-was-meant-for-facebook
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
mawinder
#198 Posted : Monday, September 01, 2014 4:17:50 PM
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Posts: 6,029
[quote=simonkabz]Senator Hassan Omar says that President Uhuru Kenyatta's visit to Mombasa County was meant for Facebook and public display.

http://www.standardmedia...-was-meant-for-facebook[/quote]
He should go look for Balala, Joho so that they can eat.
simonkabz
#199 Posted : Monday, September 01, 2014 5:00:44 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2007
Posts: 8,776
Location: Cameroon
mawinder wrote:
[quote=simonkabz]Senator Hassan Omar says that President Uhuru Kenyatta's visit to Mombasa County was meant for Facebook and public display.

http://www.standardmedia...-was-meant-for-facebook[/quote]
He should go look for Balala, Joho so that they can eat.


Kiwaru inanyonga yeye since he was not given any official role to play......the story of the hare and the mango tree....
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
murchr
#200 Posted : Wednesday, June 17, 2015 5:43:26 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Where is he?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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