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In the latest debasing of known human rights, IS militants have abducted several dozen female Izadi Kurds in Iraq and sold them to fellow militants in Syria, the so-called Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) says. At least 27 Izadi women had been sold for around USD 1,000 each by IS terrorists in Iraq only to fellow ISIL terrorists in Syria despite attempts by Syria Arabs and Kurds to buy them so as to secure their freedom.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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ecstacy wrote:In the latest debasing of known human rights, IS militants have abducted several dozen female Izadi Kurds in Iraq and sold them to fellow militants in Syria, the so-called Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) says. At least 27 Izadi women had been sold for around USD 1,000 each by IS terrorists in Iraq only to fellow ISIL terrorists in Syria despite attempts by Syria Arabs and Kurds to buy them so as to secure their freedom.
Actually its more than 300 women sold so far and they are the spoils of war and the Bible is very clear what to do with spoils of war! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:What does the Qur'an say about the Son of God and what does the Bible say?
What does the Qur'an say about crucification of Jesus and what does the Bible say? @symbols its important to use wisdom when reading these books Answer to question 1. The Bible calls Angels sons of God in Job 2:1, It also calls Adam the son of God in Luke 3:43 and it calls Jesus son of God in various references... Clearly the Bible refers to all beings without an earthly father as sons of God and the Qur'an is in full agreement with this understanding of the word "son" The other interpretations of the word "son" by Christians got cooked up later on after translations! Answer to question 2.The Bible says Jesus was to be crucified and the Qur'an says Jesus was to be crucified. The Bible says Jesus was crucified and the Qur'an says Judas who was made to look like Jesus was the one crucified! So both books acknowledged a crucifixion of a man that people thought was Jesus took place! As Muslims we do not believe in anything that is written after Jesus departure because that is where all the lies and contradictions begin. For example: The Bible can't even decide how Judas died  To clarify,I said Son of God,not son(s) of God.There is no Luke 3:43 but I think you meant Luke 3:38.Specifically what does the Qur'an say when it comes to Jesus as the Son of God. In regards to Jesus not being crucified,that isn't in the Bible.Going by your argument,does that mean Muhammad's teachings are not from Yahweh? Are you aware that Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic have no capital letters? So none of the books talk about a Son of God! That is just a misleading translation to try and differentiate Jesus from Adam and the Angels! So I do not know what answer you seek? Quran 9:30 wrote:The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded? Quran 19:35 wrote:It is not [befitting] for Allah to take a son; exalted is He! When He decrees an affair, He only says to it, "Be," and it is. Where did the teachings come from? You insulted God by saying he had a begotten Son and that does not exist in the Bible or the Quran! Google the word begotten and see the level of Insult! So Muhammad's teachings did come from Yahweh and Jesus Christ is no different from the Angels and Adam in that he was never pro created! http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=570126#post570126 Is that the white flag of surrender I see?? Yahweh did not beget a son in any Holy Book that's why that insulting word was struck down from John 3:16! One issue at a time.We'll get to it.As to any claims you and @AlphDoti have concerning what I've written,you're welcome to quote it. Where did Muhammad's teachings come from? Answer: Yahweh! guru267 wrote:
@symbols none of you have been able to show me something Muhammad recited in the quran that is not also in the Bible!
Therefore Muhammad's teachings came from Yahweh..
How is that possible? @symbols it looks like your only strategy to avert defeat is to run around in circles and i am not willing to oblige! By admitting Muhammad's teachings came from Yahweh you would be effectively accepting Islam which you clearly have no intention of doing... However the facts remain... Muhammad is and will always be the last Messenger of Yahweh! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:What does the Qur'an say about the Son of God and what does the Bible say?
What does the Qur'an say about crucification of Jesus and what does the Bible say? @symbols its important to use wisdom when reading these books Answer to question 1. The Bible calls Angels sons of God in Job 2:1, It also calls Adam the son of God in Luke 3:43 and it calls Jesus son of God in various references... Clearly the Bible refers to all beings without an earthly father as sons of God and the Qur'an is in full agreement with this understanding of the word "son" The other interpretations of the word "son" by Christians got cooked up later on after translations! Answer to question 2.The Bible says Jesus was to be crucified and the Qur'an says Jesus was to be crucified. The Bible says Jesus was crucified and the Qur'an says Judas who was made to look like Jesus was the one crucified! So both books acknowledged a crucifixion of a man that people thought was Jesus took place! As Muslims we do not believe in anything that is written after Jesus departure because that is where all the lies and contradictions begin. For example: The Bible can't even decide how Judas died To clarify,I said Son of God,not son(s) of God.There is no Luke 3:43 but I think you meant Luke 3:38.Specifically what does the Qur'an say when it comes to Jesus as the Son of God. In regards to Jesus not being crucified,that isn't in the Bible.Going by your argument,does that mean Muhammad's teachings are not from Yahweh? Are you aware that Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic have no capital letters? So none of the books talk about a Son of God! That is just a misleading translation to try and differentiate Jesus from Adam and the Angels! So I do not know what answer you seek? Quran 9:30 wrote:The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded? Quran 19:35 wrote:It is not [befitting] for Allah to take a son; exalted is He! When He decrees an affair, He only says to it, "Be," and it is. Where did the teachings come from? You insulted God by saying he had a begotten Son and that does not exist in the Bible or the Quran! Google the word begotten and see the level of Insult! So Muhammad's teachings did come from Yahweh and Jesus Christ is no different from the Angels and Adam in that he was never pro created! http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=570126#post570126 Is that the white flag of surrender I see?? Yahweh did not beget a son in any Holy Book that's why that insulting word was struck down from John 3:16! One issue at a time.We'll get to it.As to any claims you and @AlphDoti have concerning what I've written,you're welcome to quote it. Where did Muhammad's teachings come from? Answer: Yahweh! guru267 wrote:
@symbols none of you have been able to show me something Muhammad recited in the quran that is not also in the Bible!
Therefore Muhammad's teachings came from Yahweh..
How is that possible? @symbols it looks like your only strategy to avert defeat is to run around in circles and i am not willing to oblige! By admitting Muhammad's teachings came from Yahweh you would be effectively accepting Islam which you clearly have no intention of doing... However the facts remain... Muhammad is and will always be the last Messenger of Yahweh! If claims are facts or proof,then I accept 'defeat'.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:What does the Qur'an say about the Son of God and what does the Bible say?
What does the Qur'an say about crucification of Jesus and what does the Bible say? @symbols its important to use wisdom when reading these books Answer to question 1. The Bible calls Angels sons of God in Job 2:1, It also calls Adam the son of God in Luke 3:43 and it calls Jesus son of God in various references... Clearly the Bible refers to all beings without an earthly father as sons of God and the Qur'an is in full agreement with this understanding of the word "son" The other interpretations of the word "son" by Christians got cooked up later on after translations! Answer to question 2.The Bible says Jesus was to be crucified and the Qur'an says Jesus was to be crucified. The Bible says Jesus was crucified and the Qur'an says Judas who was made to look like Jesus was the one crucified! So both books acknowledged a crucifixion of a man that people thought was Jesus took place! As Muslims we do not believe in anything that is written after Jesus departure because that is where all the lies and contradictions begin. For example: The Bible can't even decide how Judas died To clarify,I said Son of God,not son(s) of God.There is no Luke 3:43 but I think you meant Luke 3:38.Specifically what does the Qur'an say when it comes to Jesus as the Son of God. In regards to Jesus not being crucified,that isn't in the Bible.Going by your argument,does that mean Muhammad's teachings are not from Yahweh? Are you aware that Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic have no capital letters? So none of the books talk about a Son of God! That is just a misleading translation to try and differentiate Jesus from Adam and the Angels! So I do not know what answer you seek? Quran 9:30 wrote:The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded? Quran 19:35 wrote:It is not [befitting] for Allah to take a son; exalted is He! When He decrees an affair, He only says to it, "Be," and it is. Where did the teachings come from? You insulted God by saying he had a begotten Son and that does not exist in the Bible or the Quran! Google the word begotten and see the level of Insult! So Muhammad's teachings did come from Yahweh and Jesus Christ is no different from the Angels and Adam in that he was never pro created! http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=570126#post570126 Is that the white flag of surrender I see?? Yahweh did not beget a son in any Holy Book that's why that insulting word was struck down from John 3:16! One issue at a time.We'll get to it.As to any claims you and @AlphDoti have concerning what I've written,you're welcome to quote it. Where did Muhammad's teachings come from? Answer: Yahweh! guru267 wrote:
@symbols none of you have been able to show me something Muhammad recited in the quran that is not also in the Bible!
Therefore Muhammad's teachings came from Yahweh..
How is that possible? @symbols it looks like your only strategy to avert defeat is to run around in circles and i am not willing to oblige! By admitting Muhammad's teachings came from Yahweh you would be effectively accepting Islam which you clearly have no intention of doing... However the facts remain... Muhammad is and will always be the last Messenger of Yahweh! If claims are facts or proof,then I accept 'defeat'. You talk about making claims and yet despite the facts of the verses in my signature you dare to call Jesus God! How canyou argue about the facts in a book you cannot read? Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:What does the Qur'an say about the Son of God and what does the Bible say?
What does the Qur'an say about crucification of Jesus and what does the Bible say? @symbols its important to use wisdom when reading these books Answer to question 1. The Bible calls Angels sons of God in Job 2:1, It also calls Adam the son of God in Luke 3:43 and it calls Jesus son of God in various references... Clearly the Bible refers to all beings without an earthly father as sons of God and the Qur'an is in full agreement with this understanding of the word "son" The other interpretations of the word "son" by Christians got cooked up later on after translations! Answer to question 2.The Bible says Jesus was to be crucified and the Qur'an says Jesus was to be crucified. The Bible says Jesus was crucified and the Qur'an says Judas who was made to look like Jesus was the one crucified! So both books acknowledged a crucifixion of a man that people thought was Jesus took place! As Muslims we do not believe in anything that is written after Jesus departure because that is where all the lies and contradictions begin. For example: The Bible can't even decide how Judas died To clarify,I said Son of God,not son(s) of God.There is no Luke 3:43 but I think you meant Luke 3:38.Specifically what does the Qur'an say when it comes to Jesus as the Son of God. In regards to Jesus not being crucified,that isn't in the Bible.Going by your argument,does that mean Muhammad's teachings are not from Yahweh? Are you aware that Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic have no capital letters? So none of the books talk about a Son of God! That is just a misleading translation to try and differentiate Jesus from Adam and the Angels! So I do not know what answer you seek? Quran 9:30 wrote:The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded? Quran 19:35 wrote:It is not [befitting] for Allah to take a son; exalted is He! When He decrees an affair, He only says to it, "Be," and it is. Where did the teachings come from? You insulted God by saying he had a begotten Son and that does not exist in the Bible or the Quran! Google the word begotten and see the level of Insult! So Muhammad's teachings did come from Yahweh and Jesus Christ is no different from the Angels and Adam in that he was never pro created! http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=570126#post570126 Is that the white flag of surrender I see?? Yahweh did not beget a son in any Holy Book that's why that insulting word was struck down from John 3:16! One issue at a time.We'll get to it.As to any claims you and @AlphDoti have concerning what I've written,you're welcome to quote it. Where did Muhammad's teachings come from? Answer: Yahweh! guru267 wrote:
@symbols none of you have been able to show me something Muhammad recited in the quran that is not also in the Bible!
Therefore Muhammad's teachings came from Yahweh..
How is that possible? @symbols it looks like your only strategy to avert defeat is to run around in circles and i am not willing to oblige! By admitting Muhammad's teachings came from Yahweh you would be effectively accepting Islam which you clearly have no intention of doing... However the facts remain... Muhammad is and will always be the last Messenger of Yahweh! If claims are facts or proof,then I accept 'defeat'. You talk about making claims and yet despite the facts of the verses in my signature you dare to call Jesus God! How canyou argue about the facts in a book you cannot read? I've accepted 'defeat'.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Teachings from Yahweh! Abraham was not a Jew nor a Christian; but he followed the original Religion and hence was a Muslim, as he took not any deities with God Almighty (Holy Qur'an 3:67). Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:symbols wrote:What does the Qur'an say about the Son of God and what does the Bible say?
What does the Qur'an say about crucification of Jesus and what does the Bible say? @symbols its important to use wisdom when reading these books Answer to question 1. The Bible calls Angels sons of God in Job 2:1, It also calls Adam the son of God in Luke 3:43 and it calls Jesus son of God in various references... Clearly the Bible refers to all beings without an earthly father as sons of God and the Qur'an is in full agreement with this understanding of the word "son" The other interpretations of the word "son" by Christians got cooked up later on after translations! Answer to question 2.The Bible says Jesus was to be crucified and the Qur'an says Jesus was to be crucified. The Bible says Jesus was crucified and the Qur'an says Judas who was made to look like Jesus was the one crucified! So both books acknowledged a crucifixion of a man that people thought was Jesus took place! As Muslims we do not believe in anything that is written after Jesus departure because that is where all the lies and contradictions begin. For example: The Bible can't even decide how Judas died To clarify,I said Son of God,not son(s) of God.There is no Luke 3:43 but I think you meant Luke 3:38.Specifically what does the Qur'an say when it comes to Jesus as the Son of God. In regards to Jesus not being crucified,that isn't in the Bible.Going by your argument,does that mean Muhammad's teachings are not from Yahweh? Are you aware that Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic have no capital letters? So none of the books talk about a Son of God! That is just a misleading translation to try and differentiate Jesus from Adam and the Angels! So I do not know what answer you seek? Quran 9:30 wrote:The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded? Quran 19:35 wrote:It is not [befitting] for Allah to take a son; exalted is He! When He decrees an affair, He only says to it, "Be," and it is. Where did the teachings come from? You insulted God by saying he had a begotten Son and that does not exist in the Bible or the Quran! Google the word begotten and see the level of Insult! So Muhammad's teachings did come from Yahweh and Jesus Christ is no different from the Angels and Adam in that he was never pro created! http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=570126#post570126 Is that the white flag of surrender I see?? Yahweh did not beget a son in any Holy Book that's why that insulting word was struck down from John 3:16! One issue at a time.We'll get to it.As to any claims you and @AlphDoti have concerning what I've written,you're welcome to quote it. Where did Muhammad's teachings come from? Answer: Yahweh! guru267 wrote:
@symbols none of you have been able to show me something Muhammad recited in the quran that is not also in the Bible!
Therefore Muhammad's teachings came from Yahweh..
How is that possible? @symbols it looks like your only strategy to avert defeat is to run around in circles and i am not willing to oblige! By admitting Muhammad's teachings came from Yahweh you would be effectively accepting Islam which you clearly have no intention of doing... However the facts remain... Muhammad is and will always be the last Messenger of Yahweh! If claims are facts or proof,then I accept 'defeat'. You talk about making claims and yet despite the facts of the verses in my signature you dare to call Jesus God! How canyou argue about the facts in a book you cannot read? I've accepted 'defeat'.  Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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guru267 wrote:ecstacy wrote:In the latest debasing of known human rights, IS militants have abducted several dozen female Izadi Kurds in Iraq and sold them to fellow militants in Syria, the so-called Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) says. At least 27 Izadi women had been sold for around USD 1,000 each by IS terrorists in Iraq only to fellow ISIL terrorists in Syria despite attempts by Syria Arabs and Kurds to buy them so as to secure their freedom.
Actually its more than 300 women sold so far and they are the spoils of war and the Bible is very clear what to do with spoils of war! Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) clearly state in their report that a lot more than 27 women may have been sold. It's only 27 cases they have been able to document. Christ instructed his followers, Christians, to love their neighbors as they love themselves. Does that include kidnapping your neighbor and selling them into slavery? The difference between "us" and "you" is that we rejected your next door neighbor Joseph Kony forcefully implementing his version of the "10 Commandments" on you and other "Christians". You'd be a "spoil of war" being sold at Muthurwa into slavery for 10,000 to marry some fundalangi "Christian fighter" as you are made to chant "Bwana asifiwe" on your way out.
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And in other news.. Kichapo kimeanza. Air srikes reported in western and nothern iraq Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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