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The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant
AlphDoti
#556 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2014 9:18:16 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
And was @Guru wrong when she declared herself to be Shiite?Are you faulting her and declaring yourself to be Muslim in the right way?

@Mukiri why do you hurl insults at me by calling me a Shiite?? What did I do to you?

When did I declare myself to be an idol worshiper?

I am very sorry... slip of the finger/boardSad You are a Sunni!!

If I may ask, is it characteristic of the Shiites to refuse to declare their stand? Like someone who's name we'll not mention


@Alph is Sunni even though he doesn't want to categorize himself...

I do not think he could degrade himself to bow to an image of anything!

Applause Applause Applause
@Alph, looks like @Guru has your balls. A funny thing because I thought in Islam, it was the other way roundd'oh!

Question is, is she right about you?

Question 2, if she's right, what is this 'nonsense' you wrote in post #504 (and one you keep repeating) that Islam is the same? Yet according to her, there are Muslims who 'bow to an image of anything'

@mukiri nobody has my balls, they are right here dangling in usual position. Why are interested in them anyway, ama you want to see if it fits latest toy in the market?

I can see you're provoking, and violeting the spirit of this community. Since i don't want to be ushered with you, like the way you did to @kysse and adult sex toys below Shame on you

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=501607#post501607

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...spx?g=posts&t=28412

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...spx?g=posts&t=27205

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I must be really getting to you if you can stoop that lowLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

My questions above still stand
Question 1, is she right that you are also a Sunni?

Question 2, if she's right, what is this 'nonsense' you wrote in post #504 (and one you keep repeating) that Islam is the same? Yet according to her, there are Muslims who 'bow to an image of anything

You Can't keep yourself from asking same question over and over? Then you call my answers "nonsense"?

Unfortunately, whatever I answer, you will not get satisfied. You will only get satisfied after you put me into some category, for what reason? You know better.

Your intention is not to understand, your intention is to provoke. I don't want to be sucked into abuses which you normally unleash, resulting in you being "ushered".

YOU ABUSE PEOPLE THEN, RETREAT INTO YOUR HALLELUJAH THREAD Shame on you

I gave you more than enough answers already:
Post #407 my first answer here
Post #411 my second answer here
Post #414 Since you worship Jesus (pbuh) so you assumed Muslims also worship Muhammad (pbuh)
Post #416 Your first call asking me to slaughter @guru
Post #426 Your second call telling me to 'slaughter' @guru
Post #428 I asked you show me Shia ir Sunni evidence from the Qur'an
Post #432 I told you these categories were developed to judge Muslims
Post #444 @mukiri started using disrespectful words
Post #456 @mukiri desperately bringing TRIBALISM TO DISCUSSION
Post #462 @MUKIRI MOVED FROM TRIBAL TO RACISM
Post #477 boasting that the "only race chosen by God"
Post #504 my latest answer

Wewe jibu swali. Wacha theatricsShame on you Simple. Are you Sunni or not?

Ask another question brother.
Mukiri
#557 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2014 10:44:48 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
And was @Guru wrong when she declared herself to be Shiite?Are you faulting her and declaring yourself to be Muslim in the right way?

@Mukiri why do you hurl insults at me by calling me a Shiite?? What did I do to you?

When did I declare myself to be an idol worshiper?

I am very sorry... slip of the finger/boardSad You are a Sunni!!

If I may ask, is it characteristic of the Shiites to refuse to declare their stand? Like someone who's name we'll not mention


@Alph is Sunni even though he doesn't want to categorize himself...

I do not think he could degrade himself to bow to an image of anything!

Applause Applause Applause
@Alph, looks like @Guru has your balls. A funny thing because I thought in Islam, it was the other way roundd'oh!

Question is, is she right about you?

Question 2, if she's right, what is this 'nonsense' you wrote in post #504 (and one you keep repeating) that Islam is the same? Yet according to her, there are Muslims who 'bow to an image of anything'

@mukiri nobody has my balls, they are right here dangling in usual position. Why are interested in them anyway, ama you want to see if it fits latest toy in the market?

I can see you're provoking, and violeting the spirit of this community. Since i don't want to be ushered with you, like the way you did to @kysse and adult sex toys below Shame on you

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=501607#post501607

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...spx?g=posts&t=28412

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...spx?g=posts&t=27205

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I must be really getting to you if you can stoop that lowLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

My questions above still stand
Question 1, is she right that you are also a Sunni?

Question 2, if she's right, what is this 'nonsense' you wrote in post #504 (and one you keep repeating) that Islam is the same? Yet according to her, there are Muslims who 'bow to an image of anything

You Can't keep yourself from asking same question over and over? Then you call my answers "nonsense"?

Unfortunately, whatever I answer, you will not get satisfied. You will only get satisfied after you put me into some category, for what reason? You know better.

Your intention is not to understand, your intention is to provoke. I don't want to be sucked into abuses which you normally unleash, resulting in you being "ushered".

YOU ABUSE PEOPLE THEN, RETREAT INTO YOUR HALLELUJAH THREAD Shame on you

I gave you more than enough answers already:
Post #407 my first answer here
Post #411 my second answer here
Post #414 Since you worship Jesus (pbuh) so you assumed Muslims also worship Muhammad (pbuh)
Post #416 Your first call asking me to slaughter @guru
Post #426 Your second call telling me to 'slaughter' @guru
Post #428 I asked you show me Shia ir Sunni evidence from the Qur'an
Post #432 I told you these categories were developed to judge Muslims
Post #444 @mukiri started using disrespectful words
Post #456 @mukiri desperately bringing TRIBALISM TO DISCUSSION
Post #462 @MUKIRI MOVED FROM TRIBAL TO RACISM
Post #477 boasting that the "only race chosen by God"
Post #504 my latest answer

Wewe jibu swali. Wacha theatricsShame on you Simple. Are you Sunni or not?

Ask another question brother.

Brother? No more matusi?smile

Ok.. Is @Guru practising wrong Islam, in outrightly saying she's Sunni?

Proverbs 19:21
AlphDoti
#558 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2014 10:58:28 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
And was @Guru wrong when she declared herself to be Shiite?Are you faulting her and declaring yourself to be Muslim in the right way?

@Mukiri why do you hurl insults at me by calling me a Shiite?? What did I do to you?

When did I declare myself to be an idol worshiper?

I am very sorry... slip of the finger/boardSad You are a Sunni!!

If I may ask, is it characteristic of the Shiites to refuse to declare their stand? Like someone who's name we'll not mention

@Alph is Sunni even though he doesn't want to categorize himself...

I do not think he could degrade himself to bow to an image of anything!

Applause Applause Applause
@Alph, looks like @Guru has your balls. A funny thing because I thought in Islam, it was the other way roundd'oh!

Question is, is she right about you?

Question 2, if she's right, what is this 'nonsense' you wrote in post #504 (and one you keep repeating) that Islam is the same? Yet according to her, there are Muslims who 'bow to an image of anything'

@mukiri nobody has my balls, they are right here dangling in usual position. Why are interested in them anyway, ama you want to see if it fits latest toy in the market?

I can see you're provoking, and violeting the spirit of this community. Since i don't want to be ushered with you, like the way you did to @kysse and adult sex toys below Shame on you

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=501607#post501607

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...spx?g=posts&t=28412

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...spx?g=posts&t=27205

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I must be really getting to you if you can stoop that lowLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

My questions above still stand
Question 1, is she right that you are also a Sunni?

Question 2, if she's right, what is this 'nonsense' you wrote in post #504 (and one you keep repeating) that Islam is the same? Yet according to her, there are Muslims who 'bow to an image of anything

You Can't keep yourself from asking same question over and over? Then you call my answers "nonsense"?

Unfortunately, whatever I answer, you will not get satisfied. You will only get satisfied after you put me into some category, for what reason? You know better.

Your intention is not to understand, your intention is to provoke. I don't want to be sucked into abuses which you normally unleash, resulting in you being "ushered".

YOU ABUSE PEOPLE THEN, RETREAT INTO YOUR HALLELUJAH THREAD Shame on you

I gave you more than enough answers already:
Post #407 my first answer here
Post #411 my second answer here
Post #414 Since you worship Jesus (pbuh) so you assumed Muslims also worship Muhammad (pbuh)
Post #416 Your first call asking me to slaughter @guru
Post #426 Your second call telling me to 'slaughter' @guru
Post #428 I asked you show me Shia ir Sunni evidence from the Qur'an
Post #432 I told you these categories were developed to judge Muslims
Post #444 @mukiri started using disrespectful words
Post #456 @mukiri desperately bringing TRIBALISM TO DISCUSSION
Post #462 @MUKIRI MOVED FROM TRIBAL TO RACISM
Post #477 boasting that the "only race chosen by God"
Post #504 my latest answer

Wewe jibu swali. Wacha theatricsShame on you Simple. Are you Sunni or not?

Ask another question brother.

Brother? No more matusi?smile

Ok.. Is @Guru practising wrong Islam, in outrightly saying she's Sunni?

Matusi ndio wewe ulikuwa naye.

ok... about your question, my answer is No, if @guru is following the Quran and Hadith, then I call her a Muslim. I don't seen anything wrong with that.

In that case, I prefer to call her a Muslim, because she is following the Quran and Hadith. For other labels you're interested in, you can ask her, believe me she can explain herself.
Mukiri
#559 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2014 11:16:37 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
And was @Guru wrong when she declared herself to be Shiite?Are you faulting her and declaring yourself to be Muslim in the right way?

@Mukiri why do you hurl insults at me by calling me a Shiite?? What did I do to you?

When did I declare myself to be an idol worshiper?

I am very sorry... slip of the finger/boardSad You are a Sunni!!

If I may ask, is it characteristic of the Shiites to refuse to declare their stand? Like someone who's name we'll not mention

@Alph is Sunni even though he doesn't want to categorize himself...

I do not think he could degrade himself to bow to an image of anything!

Applause Applause Applause
@Alph, looks like @Guru has your balls. A funny thing because I thought in Islam, it was the other way roundd'oh!

Question is, is she right about you?

Question 2, if she's right, what is this 'nonsense' you wrote in post #504 (and one you keep repeating) that Islam is the same? Yet according to her, there are Muslims who 'bow to an image of anything'

@mukiri nobody has my balls, they are right here dangling in usual position. Why are interested in them anyway, ama you want to see if it fits latest toy in the market?

I can see you're provoking, and violeting the spirit of this community. Since i don't want to be ushered with you, like the way you did to @kysse and adult sex toys below Shame on you

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=501607#post501607

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...spx?g=posts&t=28412

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...spx?g=posts&t=27205

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I must be really getting to you if you can stoop that lowLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

My questions above still stand
Question 1, is she right that you are also a Sunni?

Question 2, if she's right, what is this 'nonsense' you wrote in post #504 (and one you keep repeating) that Islam is the same? Yet according to her, there are Muslims who 'bow to an image of anything

You Can't keep yourself from asking same question over and over? Then you call my answers "nonsense"?

Unfortunately, whatever I answer, you will not get satisfied. You will only get satisfied after you put me into some category, for what reason? You know better.

Your intention is not to understand, your intention is to provoke. I don't want to be sucked into abuses which you normally unleash, resulting in you being "ushered".

YOU ABUSE PEOPLE THEN, RETREAT INTO YOUR HALLELUJAH THREAD Shame on you

I gave you more than enough answers already:
Post #407 my first answer here
Post #411 my second answer here
Post #414 Since you worship Jesus (pbuh) so you assumed Muslims also worship Muhammad (pbuh)
Post #416 Your first call asking me to slaughter @guru
Post #426 Your second call telling me to 'slaughter' @guru
Post #428 I asked you show me Shia ir Sunni evidence from the Qur'an
Post #432 I told you these categories were developed to judge Muslims
Post #444 @mukiri started using disrespectful words
Post #456 @mukiri desperately bringing TRIBALISM TO DISCUSSION
Post #462 @MUKIRI MOVED FROM TRIBAL TO RACISM
Post #477 boasting that the "only race chosen by God"
Post #504 my latest answer

Wewe jibu swali. Wacha theatricsShame on you Simple. Are you Sunni or not?

Ask another question brother.

Brother? No more matusi?smile

Ok.. Is @Guru practising wrong Islam, in outrightly saying she's Sunni?

Matusi ndio wewe ulikuwa naye.

ok... about your question, my answer is No, if @guru is following the Quran and Hadith, then I call her a Muslim. I don't seen anything wrong with that.

In that case, I prefer to call her a Muslim, because she is following the Quran and Hadith. For other labels you're interested in, you can ask her, believe me she can explain herself.

Mimi sina matusi... Like someone said here, sometime back, I describe someone so well, one can only feel sorry for them.

So if @Guru is not 'Un-Muslim-like' in declaring her stand, are you? In hiding yours

Proverbs 19:21
AlphDoti
#560 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2014 11:35:23 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
And was @Guru wrong when she declared herself to be Shiite?Are you faulting her and declaring yourself to be Muslim in the right way?

@Mukiri why do you hurl insults at me by calling me a Shiite?? What did I do to you?

When did I declare myself to be an idol worshiper?

I am very sorry... slip of the finger/boardSad You are a Sunni!!

If I may ask, is it characteristic of the Shiites to refuse to declare their stand? Like someone who's name we'll not mention

@Alph is Sunni even though he doesn't want to categorize himself...

I do not think he could degrade himself to bow to an image of anything!

Applause Applause Applause
@Alph, looks like @Guru has your balls. A funny thing because I thought in Islam, it was the other way roundd'oh!

Question is, is she right about you?

Question 2, if she's right, what is this 'nonsense' you wrote in post #504 (and one you keep repeating) that Islam is the same? Yet according to her, there are Muslims who 'bow to an image of anything'

@mukiri nobody has my balls, they are right here dangling in usual position. Why are interested in them anyway, ama you want to see if it fits latest toy in the market?

I can see you're provoking, and violeting the spirit of this community. Since i don't want to be ushered with you, like the way you did to @kysse and adult sex toys below Shame on you

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...amp;m=501607#post501607

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...spx?g=posts&t=28412

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...spx?g=posts&t=27205

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I must be really getting to you if you can stoop that lowLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

My questions above still stand
Question 1, is she right that you are also a Sunni?

Question 2, if she's right, what is this 'nonsense' you wrote in post #504 (and one you keep repeating) that Islam is the same? Yet according to her, there are Muslims who 'bow to an image of anything

You Can't keep yourself from asking same question over and over? Then you call my answers "nonsense"?

Unfortunately, whatever I answer, you will not get satisfied. You will only get satisfied after you put me into some category, for what reason? You know better.

Your intention is not to understand, your intention is to provoke. I don't want to be sucked into abuses which you normally unleash, resulting in you being "ushered".

YOU ABUSE PEOPLE THEN, RETREAT INTO YOUR HALLELUJAH THREAD Shame on you

I gave you more than enough answers already:
Post #407 my first answer here
Post #411 my second answer here
Post #414 Since you worship Jesus (pbuh) so you assumed Muslims also worship Muhammad (pbuh)
Post #416 Your first call asking me to slaughter @guru
Post #426 Your second call telling me to 'slaughter' @guru
Post #428 I asked you show me Shia ir Sunni evidence from the Qur'an
Post #432 I told you these categories were developed to judge Muslims
Post #444 @mukiri started using disrespectful words
Post #456 @mukiri desperately bringing TRIBALISM TO DISCUSSION
Post #462 @MUKIRI MOVED FROM TRIBAL TO RACISM
Post #477 boasting that the "only race chosen by God"
Post #504 my latest answer

Wewe jibu swali. Wacha theatricsShame on you Simple. Are you Sunni or not?

Ask another question brother.

Brother? No more matusi?smile

Ok.. Is @Guru practising wrong Islam, in outrightly saying she's Sunni?

Matusi ndio wewe ulikuwa naye.

ok... about your question, my answer is No, if @guru is following the Quran and Hadith, then I call her a Muslim. I don't seen anything wrong with that.

In that case, I prefer to call her a Muslim, because she is following the Quran and Hadith. For other labels you're interested in, you can ask her, believe me she can explain herself.

Mimi sina matusi... Like someone said here, sometime back, I describe someone so well, one can only feel sorry for them.

So if @Guru is not 'Un-Muslim-like' in declaring her stand, are you? In hiding yours

Is it your specialization to describe people? Can't you dialogue without falling into temptation to describe people, putting them in tribes, races, sects etc? What I know is you were really described so well by many Wazuans here, even admin did as well, and even ushered you. And I remember you felt sorry for yourself, and so remorseful you even repented and told yourself you will change.

You see @mukiri, what does your Bible teach about controlling your tongue (fingers). Does it not give you guidelines about how you should speak about others? Does it not teach you against delighting in meddling and slandering?

James 3:2 - If we can control our speech, we can control all areas of our lives.
Titus 3:1,2 - Christians are told to "speak evil of no one."
1 Peter 2:1 - "Lay aside ... all evil speaking."

So about your question. The answer is I didn't say it is Muslim-like or un-Muslim-like for her declaring anything. I said a Muslim is one who follows the Quran and Hadith.
Mukiri
#561 Posted : Friday, August 29, 2014 11:53:17 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
Good. Now we are getting somewhere.

So, according to you, she is right by coming out and saying she's Sunni... and in equal measure, you are right by hiding your affiliation.

Question 2, You have said 'a Muslim is one who follows the Quran and Hadith', yet she outrighly condemns some Muslims as 'bowing down to anything'. Who is right and who is wrong?

Proverbs 19:21
AlphDoti
#562 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 12:10:44 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Mukiri wrote:
Good. Now we are getting somewhere.

So, according to you, she is right by coming out and saying she's Sunni... and in equal measure, you are right by hiding your affiliation.

Question 2, You have said 'a Muslim is one who follows the Quran and Hadith', yet she outrighly condemns some Muslims as 'bowing down to anything'. Who is right and who is wrong?

About your first paragraph: Right about what? Aren't you making your own conclusions there?

About your second paragraph: Quran and Hadiths condemns those 'bowing down to anything else other than Allah (God Almighty)'. And those are not Muslims. They are polytheists or idolaters. If @guru condemns them, then she is following the Quran and Hadith.
Mukiri
#563 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 12:14:36 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Good. Now we are getting somewhere.

So, according to you, she is right by coming out and saying she's Sunni... and in equal measure, you are right by hiding your affiliation.

Question 2, You have said 'a Muslim is one who follows the Quran and Hadith', yet she outrighly condemns some Muslims as 'bowing down to anything'. Who is right and who is wrong?

About your first paragraph: Right about what? Aren't you making your own conclusions there?

About your second paragraph: Quran and Hadiths condemns those 'bowing down to anything else other than Allah (God Almighty)'. And those are not Muslims. They are polytheists or idolaters. If @guru condemns them, then she is following the Quran and Hadith.

On the first question, please elucidate. One has come outrightly while another is hiding. Who is Muslim and who is the polytheist/idolaters?

On the second, if I understand you correctly, there are Muslims and there are polytheists/Idolaters?

Proverbs 19:21
AlphDoti
#564 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 12:33:26 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Good. Now we are getting somewhere.

So, according to you, she is right by coming out and saying she's Sunni... and in equal measure, you are right by hiding your affiliation.

Question 2, You have said 'a Muslim is one who follows the Quran and Hadith', yet she outrighly condemns some Muslims as 'bowing down to anything'. Who is right and who is wrong?

About your first paragraph: Right about what? Aren't you making your own conclusions there?

About your second paragraph: Quran and Hadiths condemns those 'bowing down to anything else other than Allah (God Almighty)'. And those are not Muslims. They are polytheists or idolaters. If @guru condemns them, then she is following the Quran and Hadith.

On the first question, please elucidate. One has come outrightly while another is hiding. Who is Muslim and who is the polytheist/idolaters?

On the second, if I understand you correctly, there are Muslims and there are polytheists/Idolaters?

On the first question, refer to post #558

On the second question, yes. Muslim is the one who submits to and accepts God and must demonstrate this by worshiping God alone, following his commands. Polytheist is one joins gods with God. An example of a polytheist like worshiping a man.
Mukiri
#565 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 1:38:53 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Good. Now we are getting somewhere.

So, according to you, she is right by coming out and saying she's Sunni... and in equal measure, you are right by hiding your affiliation.

Question 2, You have said 'a Muslim is one who follows the Quran and Hadith', yet she outrighly condemns some Muslims as 'bowing down to anything'. Who is right and who is wrong?

About your first paragraph: Right about what? Aren't you making your own conclusions there?

About your second paragraph: Quran and Hadiths condemns those 'bowing down to anything else other than Allah (God Almighty)'. And those are not Muslims. They are polytheists or idolaters. If @guru condemns them, then she is following the Quran and Hadith.

On the first question, please elucidate. One has come outrightly while another is hiding. Who is Muslim and who is the polytheist/idolaters?

On the second, if I understand you correctly, there are Muslims and there are polytheists/Idolaters?

On the first question, refer to post #558

On the second question, yes. Muslim is the one who submits to and accepts God and must demonstrate this by worshiping God alone, following his commands. Polytheist is one joins gods with God. An example of a polytheist like worshiping a man.

Combining the two questions, which is Sunni, which is Shia, which are you, which, in your opinion, is @Guru, which is ISIS and which are those being killed?

Proverbs 19:21
Nabwire
#566 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 6:10:27 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 7/22/2011
Posts: 1,325
AlphDoti wrote:
Nabwire wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Wendz wrote:
Which land because i could gladly leave it if i knew which one? Could you kindly elaborate this in Kenyan context. Also, in your elaboration, kindly let us know how the muslims rightly acquired/inherited/attained the said land.


When Christ comes back the whole earth will be Islamic land so maybe you could try space or Mars!

Ujinga ni kusema when Christ, a Christian, comes back, the whole world will be Islamic, a non Christian religion, actually a cult that goes against everything Christ stood for! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

@nabwire who told you Jesus Christ (pbuh) was Christian? Can you produce your proof?



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly So now Christ was not a Christian! This is the part where I sign off coz I know somewhere down the line you will abandon Mohammed and claim he was really a Christian, when all the evil he did comes to light. Masters of deception!
AlphDoti
#567 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 6:18:35 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Good. Now we are getting somewhere.

So, according to you, she is right by coming out and saying she's Sunni... and in equal measure, you are right by hiding your affiliation.

Question 2, You have said 'a Muslim is one who follows the Quran and Hadith', yet she outrighly condemns some Muslims as 'bowing down to anything'. Who is right and who is wrong?

About your first paragraph: Right about what? Aren't you making your own conclusions there?

About your second paragraph: Quran and Hadiths condemns those 'bowing down to anything else other than Allah (God Almighty)'. And those are not Muslims. They are polytheists or idolaters. If @guru condemns them, then she is following the Quran and Hadith.

On the first question, please elucidate. One has come outrightly while another is hiding. Who is Muslim and who is the polytheist/idolaters?

On the second, if I understand you correctly, there are Muslims and there are polytheists/Idolaters?

On the first question, refer to post #558

On the second question, yes. Muslim is the one who submits to and accepts God and must demonstrate this by worshiping God alone, following his commands. Polytheist is one joins gods with God. An example of a polytheist like worshiping a man.

Combining the two questions, which is Sunni, which is Shia, which are you, which, in your opinion, is @Guru, which is ISIS and which are those being killed?

@mukiri you're just repeating questions. Which what and what... and am I? I've already replied in above posts.
My opinion regarding @guru? You ask her, there you're trying to clash people.
Which is ISIS and who is being killed? How do I know? Your guess is as good as mine.

In short, these grouping you're enumerating have been created by so-called Muslim experts, the enemies of Islam, for political reasons, to cause division. You'll never find any groupings in Quran and Hadiths the teachings of prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Quran says don't create sects. Hadiths say don't create sects. So the groupings and sects is not Islam.

Going forward, please ask me any question in Islam. Politics, achia @guru, she can deal with you on that.

NOTE: please refer to my post #288 about my stand ISIS.
AlphDoti
#568 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 6:26:40 AM
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Nabwire wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Nabwire wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Wendz wrote:
Which land because i could gladly leave it if i knew which one? Could you kindly elaborate this in Kenyan context. Also, in your elaboration, kindly let us know how the muslims rightly acquired/inherited/attained the said land.


When Christ comes back the whole earth will be Islamic land so maybe you could try space or Mars!

Ujinga ni kusema when Christ, a Christian, comes back, the whole world will be Islamic, a non Christian religion, actually a cult that goes against everything Christ stood for! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

@nabwire who told you Jesus Christ (pbuh) was Christian? Can you produce your proof?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly So now Christ was not a Christian! This is the part where I sign off coz I know somewhere down the line you will abandon Mohammed and claim he was really a Christian, when all the evil he did comes to light. Masters of deception!

@nabwire no, no, no Shame on you

Why are you signing off so quickly? Produce your proof if you claim Jesus Christ (pbuh) was a Christian. You're displaying your ignorance about the origin of Christianity.

Muslims are people with one stand! Now you want to switch to Muhammad (pbuh) yet we're discussing Jesus (pbuh), enyewe nyinyi ni experts of digression when defeated Pray
guru267
#569 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:52:42 AM
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Nabwire wrote:
guru267 wrote:
muganda wrote:
guru267 wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
The only comments I've seen is trying to justify this barbaric acts with those of the Jews in the Old Testament, as if that makes it right.


@ecstacy those "barbaric" acts were blessed by Yahweh and they were on his command!! So they are right in God's eyes!

That is the same Old Testament that is in your Bible!

And if something is right in God's eyes who cares what the rest of the world thinks??


Why do the actions need justification... 'Jews', 'old testament', 'bible', 'God', 'Yahweh' etc.

Devilish actions by mad barbarians - ISIS should stand upright and claim their actions. Why even drag the name of Allah into the mess? Such bad taste. Cowards



And why shouldn't they?? They have precedence set for their actions!

Precedence that has the support of God the Father!



Ushetani mtawacha! The Bible has the ten commandments, one of which states ' Thou shall not kill' Funny how you and your cult members conveniently ignore this. While we are at it, why the constant quoting of the Bible, nothing of worth to quote from the Quran?


The reason I quote the Bible is because I want you to know that Muhammad's teachings came from Yahweh and no one else!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#570 Posted : Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:55:59 AM
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Location: Nairobi
Nabwire wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Wendz wrote:
Which land because i could gladly leave it if i knew which one? Could you kindly elaborate this in Kenyan context. Also, in your elaboration, kindly let us know how the muslims rightly acquired/inherited/attained the said land.


When Christ comes back the whole earth will be Islamic land so maybe you could try space or Mars!


Ujinga ni kusema when Christ, a Christian, comes back, the whole world will be Islamic, a non Christian religion, actually a cult that goes against everything Christ stood for! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


My friend when Christ went to heaven he was a Jew.. Only God knows who cooked up a religion called Christianity!

As stated before as long as anyone believes in Mark 12:29 then they qualify to be Muslim! So Christ is a Muslim!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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