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The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant
Alba
#501 Posted : Wednesday, August 27, 2014 11:38:09 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Alba wrote:
Muslims killing, massacaring, decapitating and torturing their fellow muslims, while other muslims celebrate. Wonders never cease.


Its impossible to explain to your small brain that those Shiite idol worshipers will never be Muslim!

So I won't even try..



You are spouting arrant nonsense. Who made you the authority on who is muslim and who is not ? Are you God ? Are you a prophet ? I am guessing your are not even an Imam but just another internet loudmouth.

And if shiites are not muslims, does this mean they have to be slaughtered like animals ? Up to and including children and infants ?

Sometimes I wonder whats going on in the brains of people with such a mentality.

I wonder if the clowns who support ISIS in Iraq and Iran realize that at some point in the future, there will be revenge killings by Shiites which then be followed by an endless cycle of counter-revenge killings.

Look ISIS clowns. You cant kill every Shiite. Some will survive and come for you. And killing them will not cause them to convert.
Mukiri
#502 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:37:23 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
B.Timer wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
B.Timer wrote:

There is no religion without sects/factions. Going forward even more factions will continue to form among Muslims as well as Christians.

This emanates from various interpretation of the books that the faiths are based. There is no telling whose interpretation, including @aphadoti’s, is the correct or the Heavenly sanctioned one!

Right now, the so called Sunnis have people who interpret their books differently. That why we have the fundamentalist and the liberals, the pro Caliphates and those opposed to it.

@alphadoti, how many factions of Islam are there in the world today!
Be honest and avoid semantics – burying heads in the sand!

@B.Timer it's true there reports which have been put out. These reports are developed in America. They have developed parameter to judge Muslims, evaluate Muslims.

I'm not being semantics or anything. It is the so called non-muslim experts who are putting up these differences to politically and ideologically group people. Objective of this kind of categorization is to create hostility and opposition between different categories.

That is why, next you will ask me are you fundamentalist, or traditionalist or modernist or Secularist?

If you read the Quran, there is no such categories. And there are agreed authentic hadiths. That's all.


Sorry I had actually forgotten that in your book everything wrong in your house is as a result of the US Laughing out loudly
The Iranians and Iraqis are all Sunnis it’s only the US who created this Shia thing Laughing out loudly

There are absolutely no differences in teachings and belief structure amongst the Muslims in Saudia and those in Iran, these Americans keep on cheating you know Laughing out loudly

There is no war between the Sunnis and Shia at all smile
The said Shiites teachings and books were all authored in Washington Laughing out loudly

Going by @ alphadoti's wisdom! then the Muslims must be very naïve to always let the Americans infiltrate them and cause all these divisions and set agendas for them d'oh!

My apologies for expecting too much of our @alpha, he who carries the gold for deflecting and evading any inconvenient query on Islam Sad


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

@Alph is a Mluhya (he evaded confirming that one too... but his unfaltering contributions in the Bukusu thread confirms it) who was converted into Islam. And just like other new converts, he became the 'expert'... An expert who doesn't even know if he's Shia or Sunni (His converter must have forgotten to tell him where to pay his allegiance)

@mukiri you're so desperate to know my tribe. YOU'RE THE ONE BRINGING IN TRIBAL QUESTION IN THIS DISCUSSION/EXCHANGE. I remember you begged so much during the "African proverbs thread". Why do you want to put people in tribes anyway? If i tell you I'm not Luyhia, and I'm not, what will that change? I'm a Kenyan, but of course I belong to an ethnic group, but that's irrelevant for this discussion.

And yes I'm expert. Even more expert about Christianity. That's why when I engage you, you run away and defend yourself with abuses and name calling. Like the way you're reply to this post.

DIDN'T YOU SAY YOU WILL NEVER READ MY POSTS? DIDN'T YOU SAY YOU EVEN BLOCKED ME? YOU FORGOT THAT ONLY GOD CAN BLOCK, AND WHAT GOD HAS UNBLOCKED, NOBODY CAN BLOCK.

Boss, its never that serious. Ease up.

So you are not Omundu khu mundu?

@MUKIRI THE TRIBAL. ARE YOU RACIST TOO?

But what do I expect? You must be learning this from the best.

We see in the writings of the Bible, where they say that Jesus' "mission" was primarily to his fellow Jews. You know the "God's Chosen People" Eh!

We know he almost turn away a woman because she was not "of Israel". This is reflected in your sectarian and tribalistic behaviour. And Jesus explained why he turned away the woman: due to race, or nationality.

He even called her a "dog"
And we see in the story when the woman agrees that she is a "dog" it shows how desperate she is to have her daughter healed!

And Jesus explains why. The Bible claims that Jesus (pbuh) was sent only to the Jews and not to Mankind!

NOTE: If you want to argue, check the writings in Matthew 15:21-28

Jesus also said: "These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: 'Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.'

NOTE: If you want to argue, check the writings from Matthew 10:5-6

Culture boss, culture. It's like when we celebrate Kililimbi, Ramogi, ESaga Saga or Mugithi nights. Or you'd rather have popped out from an Arab?

And was @Guru wrong when she declared herself to be Shiite? Are you faulting her and declaring yourself to be Muslim in the right way?

Finally, if you are not proud of your culture and religious affiliation, what are you proud of? Many words?

Proverbs 19:21
simonkabz
#503 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:37:34 AM
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I have watched so many beheading videos.....today i got one of an arab being beheaded from the back of the neck. Im used to zile they cut from the front. Guru, how many have you beheaded so far?

This Guru woman has made me hate that religion with passion, I never knew Islam was so full of shiet damn! I never thought people could lose their minds coz of a f***ing religion.....you guys will even be rejected by the devil himself!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
AlphDoti
#504 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 6:42:08 AM
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Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
B.Timer wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
B.Timer wrote:

There is no religion without sects/factions. Going forward even more factions will continue to form among Muslims as well as Christians.

This emanates from various interpretation of the books that the faiths are based. There is no telling whose interpretation, including @aphadoti’s, is the correct or the Heavenly sanctioned one!

Right now, the so called Sunnis have people who interpret their books differently. That why we have the fundamentalist and the liberals, the pro Caliphates and those opposed to it.

@alphadoti, how many factions of Islam are there in the world today!
Be honest and avoid semantics – burying heads in the sand!

@B.Timer it's true there reports which have been put out. These reports are developed in America. They have developed parameter to judge Muslims, evaluate Muslims.

I'm not being semantics or anything. It is the so called non-muslim experts who are putting up these differences to politically and ideologically group people. Objective of this kind of categorization is to create hostility and opposition between different categories.

That is why, next you will ask me are you fundamentalist, or traditionalist or modernist or Secularist?

If you read the Quran, there is no such categories. And there are agreed authentic hadiths. That's all.


Sorry I had actually forgotten that in your book everything wrong in your house is as a result of the US Laughing out loudly
The Iranians and Iraqis are all Sunnis it’s only the US who created this Shia thing Laughing out loudly

There are absolutely no differences in teachings and belief structure amongst the Muslims in Saudia and those in Iran, these Americans keep on cheating you know Laughing out loudly

There is no war between the Sunnis and Shia at all smile
The said Shiites teachings and books were all authored in Washington Laughing out loudly

Going by @ alphadoti's wisdom! then the Muslims must be very naïve to always let the Americans infiltrate them and cause all these divisions and set agendas for them d'oh!

My apologies for expecting too much of our @alpha, he who carries the gold for deflecting and evading any inconvenient query on Islam Sad


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

@Alph is a Mluhya (he evaded confirming that one too... but his unfaltering contributions in the Bukusu thread confirms it) who was converted into Islam. And just like other new converts, he became the 'expert'... An expert who doesn't even know if he's Shia or Sunni (His converter must have forgotten to tell him where to pay his allegiance)

@mukiri you're so desperate to know my tribe. YOU'RE THE ONE BRINGING IN TRIBAL QUESTION IN THIS DISCUSSION/EXCHANGE. I remember you begged so much during the "African proverbs thread". Why do you want to put people in tribes anyway? If i tell you I'm not Luyhia, and I'm not, what will that change? I'm a Kenyan, but of course I belong to an ethnic group, but that's irrelevant for this discussion.

And yes I'm expert. Even more expert about Christianity. That's why when I engage you, you run away and defend yourself with abuses and name calling. Like the way you're reply to this post.

DIDN'T YOU SAY YOU WILL NEVER READ MY POSTS? DIDN'T YOU SAY YOU EVEN BLOCKED ME? YOU FORGOT THAT ONLY GOD CAN BLOCK, AND WHAT GOD HAS UNBLOCKED, NOBODY CAN BLOCK.

Boss, its never that serious. Ease up.

So you are not Omundu khu mundu?

@MUKIRI THE TRIBAL. ARE YOU RACIST TOO?

But what do I expect? You must be learning this from the best.

We see in the writings of the Bible, where they say that Jesus' "mission" was primarily to his fellow Jews. You know the "God's Chosen People" Eh!

We know he almost turn away a woman because she was not "of Israel". This is reflected in your sectarian and tribalistic behaviour. And Jesus explained why he turned away the woman: due to race, or nationality.

He even called her a "dog"
And we see in the story when the woman agrees that she is a "dog" it shows how desperate she is to have her daughter healed!

And Jesus explains why. The Bible claims that Jesus (pbuh) was sent only to the Jews and not to Mankind!

NOTE: If you want to argue, check the writings in Matthew 15:21-28

Jesus also said: "These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: 'Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.'

NOTE: If you want to argue, check the writings from Matthew 10:5-6

Culture boss, culture. It's like when we celebrate Kililimbi, Ramogi, ESaga Saga or Mugithi nights. Or you'd rather have popped out from an Arab?

And was @Guru wrong when she declared herself to be Shiite? Are you faulting her and declaring yourself to be Muslim in the right way?

Finally, if you are not proud of your culture and religious affiliation, what are you proud of? Many words?

@mukiri, again you're so obsessed with tribalism. In Islam there is no splitting people into Kilimbi or Ramogi or Sugu sugu or Mugithi or whatever. Islam is culture, Islam is way of life, its source is Quran and the sunnah. Any other division is creation of sects, which leads to corruptions such as tribal groupings and racism.

The prophet said "...an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action".

So please stop looking for ways of trying to find a difference between @guru and myself. Islam is not like Christianity where you say i cant go to that Church because it is SDA, for Sugu Sugu people. Or that is for Jehover Witness people, I'll only come all the way from Eastlands, through town, up Valley road to NPC, CITAM!

In ISLAM, every mosque is the same. Any tribe goes there. Every race goes there. Reading the same Quran, same language, same prayer, same direction, same time, same Allah!
guru267
#505 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 6:55:51 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
And was @Guru wrong when she declared herself to be Shiite?Are you faulting her and declaring yourself to be Muslim in the right way?


@Mukiri why do you hurl insults at me by calling me a Shiite?? What did I do to you?

When did I declare myself to be an idol worshiper?
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#506 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 7:22:30 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
I have watched so many beheading videos.....today i got one of an arab being beheaded from the back of the neck. Im used to zile they cut from the front. Guru, how many have you beheaded so far?

This Guru woman has made me hate that religion with passion, I never knew Islam was so full of shiet damn! I never thought people could lose their minds coz of a f***ing religion.....you guys will even be rejected by the devil himself!


Hate us all you want!

I think maybe you can go jump off a cliff because Sunnis are now more than a quarter of the worlds population and ever growing!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Muriel
#507 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 7:23:48 AM
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guru267 wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Muriel wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Alph Doti

You insist that the christian perspective is the wrong perspective and that adhering to this christian perspective will take one to ibilisi?

Right?

Which Christian perspective?

As pertains to Holy Spirit.

@muriel, please explain yourself. Which Christian perspective as regards Holy Spirit?


The Holy Spirit is Jesus Christ's soul created by God before the time of Abraham!

That's what Christ means - "Anointed with the Holy Spirit"..

Unfortunately someone lied to the Christians that they can also become Christs in their own right by also getting the Holy Spirit in them! nkt smile


Guru,

I see. Thank you for your response. It is most enlightening. The christian perspective of holy spirit is hence a wrong perspective that will consequently lead one to ibilisi.

Alphdoti, I have been answered.

No further questions.
guru267
#508 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 7:32:02 AM
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Alba wrote:
Who made you the authority on who is muslim and who is not ? Are you God ? Are you a prophet ?


I am not an authority...

Muslim literally means slave to the will of the one God!

The Bible and quran are very clear!

Gods will is that anyone who worships images and idols, anyone who denies God is only one and anyone who seeks intercession from any human being is NOT a Muslim!

Moses called for the immediate death of these... At least Muhammad gave them the chance to convert, pay tax or leave the land and only after all of these options are exhausted do we talk about death!

What about that can't you understand?
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Mukiri
#509 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 7:45:47 AM
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Joined: 7/11/2012
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guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
And was @Guru wrong when she declared herself to be Shiite?Are you faulting her and declaring yourself to be Muslim in the right way?


@Mukiri why do you hurl insults at me by calling me a Shiite?? What did I do to you?

When did I declare myself to be an idol worshiper?

I am very sorry... slip of the finger/boardSad You are a Sunni!!

If I may ask, is it characteristic of the Shiites to refuse to declare their stand? Like someone who's name we'll not mention

Proverbs 19:21
simonkabz
#510 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 8:39:44 AM
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guru267 wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
I have watched so many beheading videos.....today i got one of an arab being beheaded from the back of the neck. Im used to zile they cut from the front. Guru, how many have you beheaded so far?

This Guru woman has made me hate that religion with passion, I never knew Islam was so full of shiet damn! I never thought people could lose their minds coz of a f***ing religion.....you guys will even be rejected by the devil himself!


Hate us all you want!

I think maybe you can go jump off a cliff because Sunnis are now more than a quarter of the worlds population and ever growing!


Are you planning to behead the other 3/4 because that is all this sunni is about? Religious cleansing.....you will all burn in hell.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Obi 1 Kanobi
#511 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:20:14 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
It seems the world has allowed ISIS to run around killing their fellow muslims as long as they don't threaten the worlds oil supply.

I bet the signal to properly engage will come from the US if there is any attempt to in any way affect the world crude oil supplies


US soldier were terrified of the Taliban every time they engaged..

They will be shitting their pants if Obama throws them on the ground against IS!


This are the exact words Saddam said, what happened to him again? Caught hiding in a sewer hole like a rat, and was hanged

That Afghan Mullah? killed by drones

Osama Bin Laden? killed while trying to shield himself with a woman.

The US is still there,

This next one (Caliph) will not know when he crosses the line, but I assure you, his fate is sealed. As you make youtube videos, those american analysts and special forces are queitly piecing the puzzle.

Atakutwa tu.


Why do you small minded people think the Mujahideen are scared of death?? Why why why!!!

Saddam was just Muslim by name but really a tyrant pagan pig so obviously he loved his life more than anything!



@Guru, no one is scared of death, but no one wants to die, ask Osama who tried to shield himself with a 20 year old Gal.

The world has changed, soldiers are running out of vogue, as you walk around some desert beheading your fellow muslims who are peacefully hearding their goats, your enemies are developing robotic warriors (read drones) to kill you from the comfort of their sofa's.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
AlphDoti
#512 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:34:23 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Alba wrote:
Who made you the authority on who is muslim and who is not ? Are you God ? Are you a prophet ?

I am not an authority...

Muslim literally means slave to the will of the one God!

The Bible and quran are very clear!

Gods will is that anyone who worships images and idols, anyone who denies God is only one and anyone who seeks intercession from any human being is NOT a Muslim!

Moses called for the immediate death of these... At least Muhammad gave them the chance to convert, pay tax or leave the land and only after all of these options are exhausted do we talk about death!

What about that can't you understand?

LET ME ADD SOME CLARIFICATION, ONCE MORE smile

1. The meaning of word "Islam"
Word "islam" is derived from Arabic verb "aslama", which means to 'accept', 'surrender' or 'submit'.
So, Islam means submission to and acceptance of God.
Islam is to commit self totally to God, making one's will in complete harmony with the Will of God.

2. How do you submit?
...by worshipping Him, following His commands, and avoiding polytheism (associating God with other partners) and avoiding worshipping a human being.

3. So who is the one who submits?
Let me give other simple examples, like:
- the one who politics is called m-wanasiasa
- the one who teaches is called m-elimu
- the one who nurses is called m-uguzi

Likewise, the one who submits, is said to have "aslam".
- In action form is "ku-aslam", "ku-slam", "ku-slimu".
- As the doer you says: "m-aslam", "m-slam", "m-slimu"
simonkabz
#513 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:06:18 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2007
Posts: 8,776
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
It seems the world has allowed ISIS to run around killing their fellow muslims as long as they don't threaten the worlds oil supply.

I bet the signal to properly engage will come from the US if there is any attempt to in any way affect the world crude oil supplies


US soldier were terrified of the Taliban every time they engaged..

They will be shitting their pants if Obama throws them on the ground against IS!


This are the exact words Saddam said, what happened to him again? Caught hiding in a sewer hole like a rat, and was hanged

That Afghan Mullah? killed by drones

Osama Bin Laden? killed while trying to shield himself with a woman.

The US is still there,

This next one (Caliph) will not know when he crosses the line, but I assure you, his fate is sealed. As you make youtube videos, those american analysts and special forces are queitly piecing the puzzle.

Atakutwa tu.


Why do you small minded people think the Mujahideen are scared of death?? Why why why!!!

Saddam was just Muslim by name but really a tyrant pagan pig so obviously he loved his life more than anything!



@Guru, no one is scared of death, but no one wants to die, ask Osama who tried to shield himself with a 20 year old Gal.

The world has changed, soldiers are running out of vogue, as you walk around some desert beheading your fellow muslims who are peacefully hearding their goats, your enemies are developing robotic warriors (read drones) to kill you from the comfort of their sofa's.

In actual fact, contrary to what she wants to portray, muslims are the real cowards.




Looks like it has been taken down....
Anyway, it was a video of the execution of hundreds of innocent iraqi young men. These people and especially this woman, are unbelievable!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
simonkabz
#514 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:12:50 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2007
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AlphDoti wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Alba wrote:
Who made you the authority on who is muslim and who is not ? Are you God ? Are you a prophet ?

I am not an authority...

Muslim literally means slave to the will of the one God!

The Bible and quran are very clear!

Gods will is that anyone who worships images and idols, anyone who denies God is only one and anyone who seeks intercession from any human being is NOT a Muslim!

Moses called for the immediate death of these... At least Muhammad gave them the chance to convert, pay tax or leave the land and only after all of these options are exhausted do we talk about death!

What about that can't you understand?

LET ME ADD SOME CLARIFICATION, ONCE MORE smile

1. The meaning of word "Islam"
Word "islam" is derived from Arabic verb "aslama", which means to 'accept', 'surrender' or 'submit'.
So, Islam means submission to and acceptance of God.
Islam is to commit self totally to God, making one's will in complete harmony with the Will of God.

2. How do you submit?
...by worshipping Him, following His commands, and avoiding polytheism (associating God with other partners) and avoiding worshipping a human being.

3. So who is the one who submits?
Let me give other simple examples, like:
- the one who politics is called m-wanasiasa
- the one who teaches is called m-elimu
- the one who nurses is called m-uguzi

Likewise, the one who submits, is said to have "aslam".
- In action form is "ku-aslam", "ku-slam", "ku-slimu".
- As the doer you says: "m-aslam", "m-slam", "m-slimu"

How about the one that beheads innocent people in the name of protecting a cowardly god who needs to be defended? Mu-shaitani ama?
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Wendz
#515 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:54:04 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Alba wrote:
Who made you the authority on who is muslim and who is not ? Are you God ? Are you a prophet ?


I am not an authority...

Muslim literally means slave to the will of the one God!

The Bible and quran are very clear!

Gods will is that anyone who worships images and idols, anyone who denies God is only one and anyone who seeks intercession from any human being is NOT a Muslim!

Moses called for the immediate death of these... At least Muhammad gave them the chance to convert, pay tax or leave the land and only after all of these options are exhausted do we talk about death!

What about that can't you understand?


Which land because i could gladly leave it if i knew which one? Could you kindly elaborate this in Kenyan context. Also, in your elaboration, kindly let us know how the muslims rightly acquired/inherited/attained the said land.
guru267
#516 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:02:38 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
And was @Guru wrong when she declared herself to be Shiite?Are you faulting her and declaring yourself to be Muslim in the right way?


@Mukiri why do you hurl insults at me by calling me a Shiite?? What did I do to you?

When did I declare myself to be an idol worshiper?

I am very sorry... slip of the finger/boardSad You are a Sunni!!

If I may ask, is it characteristic of the Shiites to refuse to declare their stand? Like someone who's name we'll not mention


@Alph is Sunni even though he doesn't want to categorize himself...

I do not think he could degrade himself to bow to an image of anything!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#517 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:06:43 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
guru267 wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
I have watched so many beheading videos.....today i got one of an arab being beheaded from the back of the neck. Im used to zile they cut from the front. Guru, how many have you beheaded so far?

This Guru woman has made me hate that religion with passion, I never knew Islam was so full of shiet damn! I never thought people could lose their minds coz of a f***ing religion.....you guys will even be rejected by the devil himself!


Hate us all you want!

I think maybe you can go jump off a cliff because Sunnis are now more than a quarter of the worlds population and ever growing!


Are you planning to behead the other 3/4 because that is all this sunni is about? Religious cleansing.....you will all burn in hell.


No... Not at all!

when jihad comes to your land and Islam takes over you will have 3 options..

1. Convert to Islam
2. Remain in disbelief and pay the same tax as all Muslims
3. Leave the land

In case you reject all options provided to you then your head has to come off!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
AlphDoti
#518 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:08:09 PM
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Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
simonkabz wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Alba wrote:
Who made you the authority on who is muslim and who is not ? Are you God ? Are you a prophet ?

I am not an authority...

Muslim literally means slave to the will of the one God!

The Bible and quran are very clear!

Gods will is that anyone who worships images and idols, anyone who denies God is only one and anyone who seeks intercession from any human being is NOT a Muslim!

Moses called for the immediate death of these... At least Muhammad gave them the chance to convert, pay tax or leave the land and only after all of these options are exhausted do we talk about death!

What about that can't you understand?

LET ME ADD SOME CLARIFICATION, ONCE MORE smile

1. The meaning of word "Islam"
Word "islam" is derived from Arabic verb "aslama", which means to 'accept', 'surrender' or 'submit'.
So, Islam means submission to and acceptance of God.
Islam is to commit self totally to God, making one's will in complete harmony with the Will of God.

2. How do you submit?
...by worshipping Him, following His commands, and avoiding polytheism (associating God with other partners) and avoiding worshipping a human being.

3. So who is the one who submits?
Let me give other simple examples, like:
- the one who politics is called m-wanasiasa
- the one who teaches is called m-elimu
- the one who nurses is called m-uguzi

Likewise, the one who submits, is said to have "aslam".
- In action form is "ku-aslam", "ku-slam", "ku-slimu".
- As the doer you says: "m-aslam", "m-slam", "m-slimu"

How about the one that beheads innocent people in the name of protecting a cowardly god who needs to be defended? Mu-shaitani ama?

@simonkabz, Islam prohibits the killing of innocent human beings (whether be Muslim or non-Muslim).

Even allegation of suicide bombing is condemned by Islam. Because it involves killing an innocent soul

But @simon, also on the same breath, you also have to condemn the thousand of people killed in Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia and now in Palestine.

I only see you people are very quick when it is non-Muslims who are being killed. How come you only stop there, why are you putting a full-stop. WHy don't you condemn the killing of innocent people in other areas like Palestine? The innocent children?
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#519 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:08:16 PM
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simonkabz wrote:

How about the one that beheads innocent people in the name of protecting a cowardly god who needs to be defended? Mu-shaitani ama?


No one is protecting any God... God is Almighty!

What we are enforcing is his law just like any other country would and just like Moses, Jesus and Muhammad ordered us to!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#520 Posted : Thursday, August 28, 2014 3:10:23 PM
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Wendz wrote:
Which land because i could gladly leave it if i knew which one? Could you kindly elaborate this in Kenyan context. Also, in your elaboration, kindly let us know how the muslims rightly acquired/inherited/attained the said land.


When Christ comes back the whole earth will be Islamic land so maybe you could try space or Mars!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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