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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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guru267 wrote:Alba wrote:Muslims killing, massacaring, decapitating and torturing their fellow muslims, while other muslims celebrate. Wonders never cease. Its impossible to explain to your small brain that those Shiite idol worshipers will never be Muslim! So I won't even try.. You are spouting arrant nonsense. Who made you the authority on who is muslim and who is not ? Are you God ? Are you a prophet ? I am guessing your are not even an Imam but just another internet loudmouth. And if shiites are not muslims, does this mean they have to be slaughtered like animals ? Up to and including children and infants ? Sometimes I wonder whats going on in the brains of people with such a mentality. I wonder if the clowns who support ISIS in Iraq and Iran realize that at some point in the future, there will be revenge killings by Shiites which then be followed by an endless cycle of counter-revenge killings. Look ISIS clowns. You cant kill every Shiite. Some will survive and come for you. And killing them will not cause them to convert.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:Lolest! wrote:B.Timer wrote:AlphDoti wrote:B.Timer wrote:
There is no religion without sects/factions. Going forward even more factions will continue to form among Muslims as well as Christians.
This emanates from various interpretation of the books that the faiths are based. There is no telling whose interpretation, including @aphadoti’s, is the correct or the Heavenly sanctioned one!
Right now, the so called Sunnis have people who interpret their books differently. That why we have the fundamentalist and the liberals, the pro Caliphates and those opposed to it.
@alphadoti, how many factions of Islam are there in the world today!
Be honest and avoid semantics – burying heads in the sand!
@B.Timer it's true there reports which have been put out. These reports are developed in America. They have developed parameter to judge Muslims, evaluate Muslims. I'm not being semantics or anything. It is the so called non-muslim experts who are putting up these differences to politically and ideologically group people. Objective of this kind of categorization is to create hostility and opposition between different categories. That is why, next you will ask me are you fundamentalist, or traditionalist or modernist or Secularist? If you read the Quran, there is no such categories. And there are agreed authentic hadiths. That's all. Sorry I had actually forgotten that in your book everything wrong in your house is as a result of the US  The Iranians and Iraqis are all Sunnis it’s only the US who created this Shia thing There are absolutely no differences in teachings and belief structure amongst the Muslims in Saudia and those in Iran, these Americans keep on cheating you know There is no war between the Sunnis and Shia at all  The said Shiites teachings and books were all authored in Washington Going by @ alphadoti's wisdom! then the Muslims must be very naïve to always let the Americans infiltrate them and cause all these divisions and set agendas for them  My apologies for expecting too much of our @alpha, he who carries the gold for deflecting and evading any inconvenient query on Islam  @Alph is a Mluhya (he evaded confirming that one too... but his unfaltering contributions in the Bukusu thread confirms it) who was converted into Islam. And just like other new converts, he became the 'expert'... An expert who doesn't even know if he's Shia or Sunni (His converter must have forgotten to tell him where to pay his allegiance) @mukiri you're so desperate to know my tribe. YOU'RE THE ONE BRINGING IN TRIBAL QUESTION IN THIS DISCUSSION/EXCHANGE. I remember you begged so much during the "African proverbs thread". Why do you want to put people in tribes anyway? If i tell you I'm not Luyhia, and I'm not, what will that change? I'm a Kenyan, but of course I belong to an ethnic group, but that's irrelevant for this discussion. And yes I'm expert. Even more expert about Christianity. That's why when I engage you, you run away and defend yourself with abuses and name calling. Like the way you're reply to this post. DIDN'T YOU SAY YOU WILL NEVER READ MY POSTS? DIDN'T YOU SAY YOU EVEN BLOCKED ME? YOU FORGOT THAT ONLY GOD CAN BLOCK, AND WHAT GOD HAS UNBLOCKED, NOBODY CAN BLOCK. Boss, its never that serious. Ease up. So you are not Omundu khu mundu? @MUKIRI THE TRIBAL. ARE YOU RACIST TOO?But what do I expect? You must be learning this from the best. We see in the writings of the Bible, where they say that Jesus' " mission" was primarily to his fellow Jews. You know the " God's Chosen People" Eh! We know he almost turn away a woman because she was not "of Israel". This is reflected in your sectarian and tribalistic behaviour. And Jesus explained why he turned away the woman: due to race, or nationality. He even called her a "dog"And we see in the story when the woman agrees that she is a "dog" it shows how desperate she is to have her daughter healed! And Jesus explains why. The Bible claims that Jesus (pbuh) was sent only to the Jews and not to Mankind! NOTE: If you want to argue, check the writings in Matthew 15:21-28Jesus also said: "These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: ' Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.' NOTE: If you want to argue, check the writings from Matthew 10:5-6 Culture boss, culture. It's like when we celebrate Kililimbi, Ramogi, ESaga Saga or Mugithi nights. Or you'd rather have popped out from an Arab? And was @Guru wrong when she declared herself to be Shiite? Are you faulting her and declaring yourself to be Muslim in the right way? Finally, if you are not proud of your culture and religious affiliation, what are you proud of? Many words?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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I have watched so many beheading videos.....today i got one of an arab being beheaded from the back of the neck. Im used to zile they cut from the front. Guru, how many have you beheaded so far? This Guru woman has made me hate that religion with passion, I never knew Islam was so full of shiet damn! I never thought people could lose their minds coz of a f***ing religion.....you guys will even be rejected by the devil himself! TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Mukiri wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:Lolest! wrote:B.Timer wrote:AlphDoti wrote:B.Timer wrote:
There is no religion without sects/factions. Going forward even more factions will continue to form among Muslims as well as Christians.
This emanates from various interpretation of the books that the faiths are based. There is no telling whose interpretation, including @aphadoti’s, is the correct or the Heavenly sanctioned one!
Right now, the so called Sunnis have people who interpret their books differently. That why we have the fundamentalist and the liberals, the pro Caliphates and those opposed to it.
@alphadoti, how many factions of Islam are there in the world today!
Be honest and avoid semantics – burying heads in the sand!
@B.Timer it's true there reports which have been put out. These reports are developed in America. They have developed parameter to judge Muslims, evaluate Muslims. I'm not being semantics or anything. It is the so called non-muslim experts who are putting up these differences to politically and ideologically group people. Objective of this kind of categorization is to create hostility and opposition between different categories. That is why, next you will ask me are you fundamentalist, or traditionalist or modernist or Secularist? If you read the Quran, there is no such categories. And there are agreed authentic hadiths. That's all. Sorry I had actually forgotten that in your book everything wrong in your house is as a result of the US The Iranians and Iraqis are all Sunnis it’s only the US who created this Shia thing There are absolutely no differences in teachings and belief structure amongst the Muslims in Saudia and those in Iran, these Americans keep on cheating you know There is no war between the Sunnis and Shia at all The said Shiites teachings and books were all authored in Washington Going by @ alphadoti's wisdom! then the Muslims must be very naïve to always let the Americans infiltrate them and cause all these divisions and set agendas for them My apologies for expecting too much of our @alpha, he who carries the gold for deflecting and evading any inconvenient query on Islam @Alph is a Mluhya (he evaded confirming that one too... but his unfaltering contributions in the Bukusu thread confirms it) who was converted into Islam. And just like other new converts, he became the 'expert'... An expert who doesn't even know if he's Shia or Sunni (His converter must have forgotten to tell him where to pay his allegiance) @mukiri you're so desperate to know my tribe. YOU'RE THE ONE BRINGING IN TRIBAL QUESTION IN THIS DISCUSSION/EXCHANGE. I remember you begged so much during the "African proverbs thread". Why do you want to put people in tribes anyway? If i tell you I'm not Luyhia, and I'm not, what will that change? I'm a Kenyan, but of course I belong to an ethnic group, but that's irrelevant for this discussion. And yes I'm expert. Even more expert about Christianity. That's why when I engage you, you run away and defend yourself with abuses and name calling. Like the way you're reply to this post. DIDN'T YOU SAY YOU WILL NEVER READ MY POSTS? DIDN'T YOU SAY YOU EVEN BLOCKED ME? YOU FORGOT THAT ONLY GOD CAN BLOCK, AND WHAT GOD HAS UNBLOCKED, NOBODY CAN BLOCK. Boss, its never that serious. Ease up. So you are not Omundu khu mundu? @MUKIRI THE TRIBAL. ARE YOU RACIST TOO?But what do I expect? You must be learning this from the best. We see in the writings of the Bible, where they say that Jesus' " mission" was primarily to his fellow Jews. You know the " God's Chosen People" Eh! We know he almost turn away a woman because she was not "of Israel". This is reflected in your sectarian and tribalistic behaviour. And Jesus explained why he turned away the woman: due to race, or nationality. He even called her a "dog"And we see in the story when the woman agrees that she is a "dog" it shows how desperate she is to have her daughter healed! And Jesus explains why. The Bible claims that Jesus (pbuh) was sent only to the Jews and not to Mankind! NOTE: If you want to argue, check the writings in Matthew 15:21-28Jesus also said: "These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: ' Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.' NOTE: If you want to argue, check the writings from Matthew 10:5-6 Culture boss, culture. It's like when we celebrate Kililimbi, Ramogi, ESaga Saga or Mugithi nights. Or you'd rather have popped out from an Arab? And was @Guru wrong when she declared herself to be Shiite? Are you faulting her and declaring yourself to be Muslim in the right way? Finally, if you are not proud of your culture and religious affiliation, what are you proud of? Many words? @mukiri, again you're so obsessed with tribalism. In Islam there is no splitting people into Kilimbi or Ramogi or Sugu sugu or Mugithi or whatever. Islam is culture, Islam is way of life, its source is Quran and the sunnah. Any other division is creation of sects, which leads to corruptions such as tribal groupings and racism. The prophet said "...an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action". So please stop looking for ways of trying to find a difference between @guru and myself. Islam is not like Christianity where you say i cant go to that Church because it is SDA, for Sugu Sugu people. Or that is for Jehover Witness people, I'll only come all the way from Eastlands, through town, up Valley road to NPC, CITAM! In ISLAM, every mosque is the same. Any tribe goes there. Every race goes there. Reading the same Quran, same language, same prayer, same direction, same time, same Allah!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Mukiri wrote:And was @Guru wrong when she declared herself to be Shiite?Are you faulting her and declaring yourself to be Muslim in the right way? @Mukiri why do you hurl insults at me by calling me a Shiite?? What did I do to you? When did I declare myself to be an idol worshiper? Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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simonkabz wrote:I have watched so many beheading videos.....today i got one of an arab being beheaded from the back of the neck. Im used to zile they cut from the front. Guru, how many have you beheaded so far?
This Guru woman has made me hate that religion with passion, I never knew Islam was so full of shiet damn! I never thought people could lose their minds coz of a f***ing religion.....you guys will even be rejected by the devil himself! Hate us all you want! I think maybe you can go jump off a cliff because Sunnis are now more than a quarter of the worlds population and ever growing! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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guru267 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Muriel wrote:Alph Doti
You insist that the christian perspective is the wrong perspective and that adhering to this christian perspective will take one to ibilisi?
Right? Which Christian perspective? As pertains to Holy Spirit. @muriel, please explain yourself. Which Christian perspective as regards Holy Spirit? The Holy Spirit is Jesus Christ's soul created by God before the time of Abraham! That's what Christ means - "Anointed with the Holy Spirit".. Unfortunately someone lied to the Christians that they can also become Christs in their own right by also getting the Holy Spirit in them! nkt Guru, I see. Thank you for your response. It is most enlightening. The christian perspective of holy spirit is hence a wrong perspective that will consequently lead one to ibilisi. Alphdoti, I have been answered. No further questions.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Alba wrote: Who made you the authority on who is muslim and who is not ? Are you God ? Are you a prophet ? I am not an authority... Muslim literally means slave to the will of the one God! The Bible and quran are very clear! Gods will is that anyone who worships images and idols, anyone who denies God is only one and anyone who seeks intercession from any human being is NOT a Muslim! Moses called for the immediate death of these... At least Muhammad gave them the chance to convert, pay tax or leave the land and only after all of these options are exhausted do we talk about death! What about that can't you understand? Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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guru267 wrote:Mukiri wrote:And was @Guru wrong when she declared herself to be Shiite?Are you faulting her and declaring yourself to be Muslim in the right way? @Mukiri why do you hurl insults at me by calling me a Shiite?? What did I do to you? When did I declare myself to be an idol worshiper? I am very sorry... slip of the finger/board You are a Sunni!! If I may ask, is it characteristic of the Shiites to refuse to declare their stand? Like someone who's name we'll not mention
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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guru267 wrote:simonkabz wrote:I have watched so many beheading videos.....today i got one of an arab being beheaded from the back of the neck. Im used to zile they cut from the front. Guru, how many have you beheaded so far?
This Guru woman has made me hate that religion with passion, I never knew Islam was so full of shiet damn! I never thought people could lose their minds coz of a f***ing religion.....you guys will even be rejected by the devil himself! Hate us all you want! I think maybe you can go jump off a cliff because Sunnis are now more than a quarter of the worlds population and ever growing! Are you planning to behead the other 3/4 because that is all this sunni is about? Religious cleansing.....you will all burn in hell. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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