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PLAYING THE MARKET-A NEW YEAR RESOLUTION
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#11 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 10:00:49 AM
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@stockmaster well project but the law of behavioral finance has proved that investors me and you at times are emotional traders, following noisemakers (speculators) who distort stock prices, hold on loosing stocks hoping for the losses to reverse to gains and sell, time lag btw buy order and sell order by the brokers who are not very efficient.

all the above combined may mean not 50% principal growth but may be btw 10% to 20%.
The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence
stocksmaster
#12 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 5:25:03 PM
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Location: CENTRAL PROVINCE
Activity 1:Date: 4th January 2010

PURCHASE: MUMIAS SUGAR COMPANY


Average Purchase price: Ksh 6.90


NSE INDEX : 3189.55

RATIONALE OF PURCHASE:Anticipating above normal 1st half financial results in late Jan/early Feb.

@ Deal......advice taken.

Left just the bare minimum.I'll be doing the updates using percentages.

x handle: @stocksmaster79
the deal
#13 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 5:46:40 PM
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@ stockmaster its not good to reveal ur transactions like that...we dont want to laugh @ u if somethin goes wrong wit mumias...
sparkly
#14 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 6:23:31 PM
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@stockmaster, thats BOLD. Benjamin Graham however warns us of the futility of short-time selectivity: 1. Human fallibility 2. The competition. Simply put, your expectations might miss the boat by a river OR even if you are right, tens of thousands of other investors are thinking and acting likewise! All the best and Keep us updated.
Life is short. Live passionately.
muganda
#15 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 7:07:00 PM
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@stocksmaster, show of character - admirable - putting your money where your mouth is.
muganda
#16 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 7:07:14 PM
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@stocksmaster, show of character - admirable - putting your money where your mouth is.
VituVingiSana
#17 Posted : Monday, January 04, 2010 7:51:42 PM
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I think @wazua should give @stockmasters a way to showcase all his buys/sells so we can follow it easily... I would want to bookmark the page rather than scrolling through the comments to find the trades!

Also... What is the total cash u plan to deploy? It helps us calculate your ROI...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
2012
#18 Posted : Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:57:37 AM
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@ stockmaster

I learnt my lesson the hard way two years ago. Buying low and selling high is not easy and not a preserve for the weak.
Think about it, everyone knows about buying low and selling high but when a counter is low there's doubt and we're not so sure about it anymore, so we lose out. A good example was Safaricom, even below 3/- people were still dumping creating a negative impression so people could only see doom instead of the bargain.
Right now there are many counters on SALE! question is are you bold enough to take a chance on these particular counters? I don't think so.

I have adopted a method I read somewhere which has proven to be effective and has given me good returns. Buy into counters that have a record of good management, innovativeness and pay good dividend. Don't buy with the intention of selling but investing in a good company and you won't go wrong.

Right now I'm able to take the risk and I'm using my gains plus annual bonus to take advantage of good counters which are currently on SALE.

BBI will solve it
:)
sheep
#19 Posted : Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:44:58 AM
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I engaged in speculation the whole of last year after painstakingly studying the works of Jesse livermore and William O`neil.The Graham model had let me down big time although I still have faith in it.

Graham suggest that if you must speculate,have two accounts:one for value investing and the other for speculation but do not dare mix them-and I precisely do that.

I was able to speculate quite successfully last year by following Livermores methods;buying stocks that made new highs and adding more as long as the stock behaved right.I believe any aspiring speculator should study Livermores work before trying to speculate.

One should not trade oftenly,maybe 1-3 times a year.Never reinvest all your profits-thats all the money you`ll ever make,avoid taking profits in minor corrections and focus on the long term trend.There is a very interesting story livermore gives of a guy called Patridge nicknamed turkey which can be found here, http://the3500.wordpress...02/01/a-stock-operator/

My two cents



The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
Much Know
#20 Posted : Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:14:54 AM
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@2012, i have observed this market so closely at least for 3 years now and yes it is possible to buy low sell high. There are certain trends in the NSE that seem to work by my estimates 80% of the time meaning on average you can expect to score 3%-10%(on high liquidity counters. These trends are very specific to the NSE. You will almost always run a profit on these trends.

Stockmaster. I welcome your idea to share your moves, i was seriously thinking of setting up a "copy cat portfolio", to save my brain thinking. it's clear Mumias is undervalued based on returns and funny enough it just stays that way. I would be weary of your bet, i don't know how increased capital expenditure for their alcohol and power plants will reflect (on the mighty who ignore this counter) when results are read. I would take a long term position though on this one.
Ras Kienyeji Man
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