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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:kysse wrote:tycho wrote:
It's not about people excluding others. It's about finding ways of living in mutuality.
The African must engineer a turnaround in the mind.
Yes tycho but we go to be practical not theoretical,Flexible and not rigid. It's a strange world,where the powerful rule,make decisions and set standards for us to follow before they can incorporate us into their world. So mutuality is a conference word meant to appease the masses. We can engineer our minds, but the world will engineer our works/output. What's 'practicality' being reactive? Playing victim? If 'practical' is about action, then know anything is possible but we make the choices. Choice is in the mind. How can a mind be re-engineered if mutualism is just an empty word? It's ideas like this that show how some of our minds are conflicted. Hahahaha you even think mind and action are or can be disconnected! You do what you think!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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@kysse forget offering the world a value proposition think of offering your neighbour a value proposition. they drink our coffee not because they like it it's because they cannot plant it there! everyone looks internally first... then once internal needs are met and 'standards' reached some people from outside then give a rat's behind about your offering.... START HERE! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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tycho wrote:harrydre wrote:kysse wrote:Nothing to do with age..
My 2 cents observations;
1. We have a retard/poor mentality -Desiring/Wishing to be 'there' yet busy driving backwards.
2.We have not embraced a culture of self responsibility/care for the environment- where we maintain what has been built for us.
3.'We are Africans'- can also be a disease because it conforms our minds to a retard way of thinking.We like thinking of ourselves as rogue/wild,so we apply rogue ways in handling all issues.As a result we appear untamed.
4. We are content with mediocrity.We always settle for less yet we have abundant resources and better examples.For instance,one doesn't need to be rich in order to act,behave and live like a human being.
5.Misplaced priorities-Need I say more?
6.Uncultured.-We have very rich cultures but are very uncultured. Don't cheat yourselves.
7.Many conferences/meetings/talk, lots of money spent, but less action. That is who we are.
Will we ever reach 'there'
Forget it,because first of all,we will never live to see that happen and even it happened,the rest of the world shall have created a different world standard.
You want to develop move with the developers.
*No Helmet*
You have hit the nail on the head perfectly... # the day the african will learn to work and stop begging for free stuff, that will be a step towards development # the day the African driver will learn some manners on the road! respect pedestrians and stop blocking each other like kondoos, another step! # the day the african will be able to Queue in a civilized manner... # and finally! I will know we have fully developed when I will comfortably walk into any public toilet and do my business without having to cover my mouth/nose! The problem is small things like the ones highlighted here are taken as too big, and the faulty thinking in our heads as negligible. Isn't it surprising that few of us even on this thread wish to be parts of the solution but are rather parts of the problem? For example, how reasonable is it to say that 'Public toilets are dirty because Africans aren't developed'? The assumption seems to be that Africans started defecating the other day. Many of us who think they are civilized are actually suffering from self deception. @tycho how you leave a toilet especially a public one says a lot about you. It's mostly the attitude. Ooh this is not my toilet so I don't care! Basically not caring about the next person that will use the facility. Thats undeveloped. Many a times a person will take extra care driving their car than a hired or borrowed one. Same attitude. And we see it in many places. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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masukuma wrote:@kysse forget offering the world a value proposition think of offering your neighbour a value proposition. they drink our coffee not because they like it it's because they cannot plant it there! everyone looks internally first... then once internal needs are met and 'standards' reached some people from outside then give a rat's behind about your offering.... START HERE! Ok,so which are these standards? What is the 'Kenyan standard' for instance? No we have regional blocks,you can't just think about yourself when you want to be kind to your neighbour. How do we expect the 'outside to accept our standards if they fall below par? And what is wrong with setting high standards? You know we have this mediocre kind of reasoning that accepts average as best.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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kysse wrote:masukuma wrote:@kysse forget offering the world a value proposition think of offering your neighbour a value proposition. they drink our coffee not because they like it it's because they cannot plant it there! everyone looks internally first... then once internal needs are met and 'standards' reached some people from outside then give a rat's behind about your offering.... START HERE! Ok,so which are these standards? What is the 'Kenyan standard' for instance? No we have regional blocks,you can't just think about yourself when you want to be kind to your neighbour. How do we expect the 'outside to accept our standards if they fall below par? And what is wrong with setting high standards? You know we have this mediocre kind of reasoning that accepts average as best. right on cue! - there it is! i was expecting you to spew this at any time... Refer to my comments above and my signature below. it's not aspirational but factual! factual! factual! you don't build stuff like those in the US/Europe/Asia because you don't have the capacity in form of critical mass of financiers, technical staff and even customers to buy it at the price you will charge of it! keep on listening to Carol Mutoko and you will live a disappointed life! Build for Africa! build in context! don't build a 'me too' product - you will not get the validation your are looking for... not in a 100 years. Build for your neighbour... not UG.. not Garissa - your neighbour in Nairobi! everything else moves from that point. that is a fact not an aspiration based on nothing. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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I always piss of elite kenyans when i tell them... your peers are not the US... not China... Not the UK (that industrialised close to 150 years ago). Your peers are Congo, Uganda, Tanzania, South Sudan, Somalia, Burundi, Rwanda, Malawi... that is a fact! you can jump jump all over the place saying...oh.. work ethic... oh... exposure..oh.. those are your peers... they are like your family - you don't get to choose your peers! you can choose your associations... P.S. some of those west african countries you see fighting with Ebola consider themselves 'Americans in the diaspora'... they speak like americans, they have surnames like Johnson, Cooper, Tucker, Moore, Dunley, Benson, Clarke, Oaxley e.t.c. heck their largest hospital is called JFK! but they live with no electric power and drive american made vehicles on muddy roads... they associate with the US but are not peers to the US.... Seems funny right? laughing? well... you are laughing at yourself! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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is development correlated to civilization? i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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masukuma wrote:kysse wrote:masukuma wrote:@kysse forget offering the world a value proposition think of offering your neighbour a value proposition. they drink our coffee not because they like it it's because they cannot plant it there! everyone looks internally first... then once internal needs are met and 'standards' reached some people from outside then give a rat's behind about your offering.... START HERE! Ok,so which are these standards? What is the 'Kenyan standard' for instance? No we have regional blocks,you can't just think about yourself when you want to be kind to your neighbour. How do we expect the 'outside to accept our standards if they fall below par? And what is wrong with setting high standards? You know we have this mediocre kind of reasoning that accepts average as best. right on cue! - there it is! i was expecting you to spew this at any time... Refer to my comments above and my signature below. it's not aspirational but factual! factual! factual! you don't build stuff like those in the US/Europe/Asia because you don't have the capacity in form of critical mass of financiers, technical staff and even customers to buy it at the price you will charge of it! keep on listening to Carol Mutoko and you will live a disappointed life! Build for Africa! build in context! don't build a 'me too' product - you will not get the validation your are looking for... not in a 100 years. Build for your neighbour... not UG.. not Garissa - your neighbour in Nairobi! everything else moves from that point. that is a fact not an aspiration based on nothing. Sasa caro anatokezea wapi,I don't even listen to radio. I love that 'BUILD FOR AFRICA'. Oh how you remind me of Olivier Mbuku Lumenganeso. I think this is the reason we are going east because their quality is fit for Africa plus the cost low.  Now my worry is, how will we trade with the world if they don't have faith in our quality since we prefer cheap and not durable stuff. Can we sustain ourselves? Isn't that retrogressive?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Putting the cart before the horse?
Consumerism,wasteful use of dwindling resources,pollution,energy problems and inadequate investment in research and development is the reality manifested by our minds.
We are thinking about peers,standards,developments and value propositions while neglecting resources,energy and the available technology.What are we going to produce,transport,sell and develop?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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