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Sameer inks deal with China firm for cheaper tyres
Realtreaty
#11 Posted : Monday, August 04, 2014 10:12:11 AM
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icecube wrote:
maka wrote:
Profit warning in today's Sunday Nation...HY i.e


Let the dumping begin!

....and where is the link apart from photocopy from i wonder where on a none- trading day (sunday Nation) I would love to see it on Business Daily and a copy on NSE.
But Profit warning does not even appear on SameerAfrica website!!
Is this a leaked document?
Or Icecube want to chip in at lower price?
Is the idea meant to lower theis stock price so that Sameer can create more shres for the partner?
I will cross the river when I rech there.
Realtreaty
#12 Posted : Monday, August 04, 2014 10:14:24 AM
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icecube wrote:
maka wrote:
Profit warning in today's Sunday Nation...HY i.e


Let the dumping begin!

....and where is the link apart from photocopy from i wonder where on a none- trading day (sunday Nation) I would love to see it on Business Daily and a copy on NSE.
But Profit warning does not even appear on SameerAfrica website!!
Is this a leaked document?
Or Icecube want to chip in at lower price?
Is the idea meant to lower theis stock price so that Sameer can create more shres for the partner?
I will cross the river when I reach there.
Akenyan2014
#13 Posted : Monday, August 04, 2014 10:46:48 AM
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littledove wrote:
icecube wrote:
maka wrote:
Profit warning in today's Sunday Nation...HY i.e


Let the dumping begin!

their was a discussion on this share last year and wazuans cautioned against merali. well some people made money but as sparkly wrote "Another screwing for Wanjiku by Merali...This guy is a shark and sharks eat small fish'' many people will unfortunately be caught up here
http://m.wazua.co.ke/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=26542


What is wrong with merali telling you that this year he did not sell land as he did last year? They were just doing what is required of them: declare a profit warning. I think nothing has changed fundamentally, going back to the previous pace of performance, if you believe in you can join.
maka
#14 Posted : Thursday, August 07, 2014 10:20:59 AM
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Going down...@Ak,nobody said it was wrong many people would have missed it,now that it's not on the company or NSE website,it's only fair to shareholders to have access to information regarding any company they invest in...@Realtreaty I don't publish the Sunday Nation,you can call Nation centre and ask who paid for the ad.
possunt quia posse videntur
Akenyan2014
#15 Posted : Thursday, August 07, 2014 10:36:38 AM
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maka wrote:
Going down...@Ak,nobody said it was wrong many people would have missed it,now that it's not on the company or NSE website,it's only fair to shareholders to have access to information regarding any company they invest in...@Realtreaty I don't publish the Sunday Nation,you can call Nation centre and ask who paid for the ad.


But their website is too optimistic outlining quite a diversified business ventures, I expected them to be bringing in much more revenues than they have been doing. But sub 5 might tempt me to start entry.
But for their tyre business, it seems the market will always be there especially with cheaper brands. You can see Kingsway Tyres ltd plans to invest Sh50 million in a retread production line.
target1360
#16 Posted : Thursday, August 07, 2014 12:58:40 PM
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Akenyan2014 wrote:
maka wrote:
Going down...@Ak,nobody said it was wrong many people would have missed it,now that it's not on the company or NSE website,it's only fair to shareholders to have access to information regarding any company they invest in...@Realtreaty I don't publish the Sunday Nation,you can call Nation centre and ask who paid for the ad.


But their website is too optimistic outlining quite a diversified business ventures, I expected them to be bringing in much more revenues than they have been doing. But sub 5 might tempt me to start entry.
But for their tyre business, it seems the market will always be there especially with cheaper brands. You can see Kingsway Tyres ltd plans to invest Sh50 million in a retread production line.

Am not sure whether all those companies on the website constitute the listed business
I find satisfaction in owning great business,not trading them
VituVingiSana
#17 Posted : Thursday, August 07, 2014 2:01:37 PM
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1) Don't assume a profitable business sporting "Sameer" is part of "Sameer Africa"
2) Merali always looks out for #1. #1 = Merali
3) Instead of letting a strategic investor buy into Sameer Africa using NEW money [issue of new shares at fair price] what Merali did was buy out Bridgestone's shares & then he will re-sell them to the "Strategic Investor" ... So Sameer Investments [or whatever proxy he uses] gets the profit while the firm Sameer Africa remains starved of capital.
4) Sale of land along Mombasa Road. That is Sameer Africa's major asset but it is being sold if not taken over by Merali's firms in JV deals.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#18 Posted : Thursday, August 07, 2014 2:05:00 PM
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maka wrote:
Going down...@Ak,nobody said it was wrong many people would have missed it,now that it's not on the company or NSE website,it's only fair to shareholders to have access to information regarding any company they invest in...@Realtreaty I don't publish the Sunday Nation,you can call Nation centre and ask who paid for the ad.
Applause Applause Applause And is it on NSE website? Nothing new if NSE doesn't publish it.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Akenyan2014
#19 Posted : Thursday, August 07, 2014 2:08:11 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
1) Don't assume a profitable business sporting "Sameer" is part of "Sameer Africa"
2) Merali always looks out for #1. #1 = Merali
3) Instead of letting a strategic investor buy into Sameer Africa using NEW money [issue of new shares at fair price] what Merali did was buy out Bridgestone's shares & then he will re-sell them to the "Strategic Investor" ... So Sameer Investments [or whatever proxy he uses] gets the profit while the firm Sameer Africa remains starved of capital.
4) Sale of land along Mombasa Road. That is Sameer Africa's major asset but it is being sold if not taken over by Merali's firms in JV deals.


Ok, well said, Chief. They tried to upload a bit of information on their 'investor' section. Exactly which are the businesses that constitute what I am tempted to buy through NSE?
Realtreaty
#20 Posted : Friday, August 22, 2014 6:53:27 PM
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Could this be the trial by the new partner?
Is Merali minting billions by keeping most of his affiliated stocks low priced.
When sameer was moving up he quickly sommersaulted and gave a profit warning to bring the price down either for him to buy more from Wanjiku before the actual date when the price will rise.
This is given by the fact tht his SIC(Sameer Investment Company)has big interest is Yana and may want to hold over 35% if the partner demands 49% and the public and other interest groups safeguarding 14%
smile
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