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Aguytrying
#601 Posted : Tuesday, August 05, 2014 11:19:53 PM
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when stocks go down like this, we need not panic. look at britam it sunk to 4.00 from 9.00.
we should concentrate on whether this company is profitable, will it continue to grow profits, can we trust management. if all these are positive. buy the shares and ignore the noise.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Akenyan2014
#602 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 12:27:09 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
when stocks go down like this, we need not panic. look at britam it sunk to 4.00 from 9.00.
we should concentrate on whether this company is profitable, will it continue to grow profits, can we trust management. if all these are positive. buy the shares and ignore the noise.


I saw Migaa advart in yesterday's paper and I am convinced this will become a very profitable venture. I expect this thing to revover eventually especially after a series of results.
VituVingiSana
#603 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 9:52:00 AM
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ecstacy wrote:
@guru, what do you think?
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Ask @obiero for his views rather than @guru who is in the market to pump and dump these! ... Just as I stay away from @obiero re: KQ Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Akenyan2014
#604 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 10:50:34 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
@guru, what do you think?
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Ask @obiero for his views rather than @guru who is in the market to pump and dump these! ... Just as I stay away from @obiero re: KQ Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

@Vitu... you have so much hatred for the national carrier. Have you seen in their fb that kq was "recognized as one of the top ten most improved airlines in the World and among Africa’s top 5 airlines by Skytraxx"

Back to HAFR, whether a pump and dump or hold, its day will come, and you know it.
ecstacy
#605 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 12:12:17 PM
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Akenyan2014 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
@guru, what do you think?
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Ask @obiero for his views rather than @guru who is in the market to pump and dump these! ... Just as I stay away from @obiero re: KQ Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

@Vitu... you have so much hatred for the national carrier. Have you seen in their fb that kq was "recognized as one of the top ten most improved airlines in the World and among Africa’s top 5 airlines by Skytraxx"

Back to HAFR, whether a pump and dump or hold, its day will come, and you know it.

Laughing out loudly @VVS at times it's also good to know the sentiments of the die hards. The calculations on paper loss or averaging down and when must be going on daily..
guru267
#606 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 12:44:31 PM
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I have no stress guys... This thing is less than 5% of my portfolio!

I feel nothing as I see it fall and im willing to wait for bankruptcy or windfall...

Learn how to take risk people!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
S.Mutaga III
#607 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 12:48:29 PM
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guru267 wrote:
I have no stress guys... This thing is less than 5% of my portfolio!

I feel nothing as I see it fall and im willing to wait for bankruptcy or windfall...

Learn how to take risk people!


You must have balls of steel. Oh...sorry madam. For a while I forgot your gender. Good luck on this one
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
Kastone
#608 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 1:32:09 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
Akenyan2014 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
@guru, what do you think?
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Ask @obiero for his views rather than @guru who is in the market to pump and dump these! ... Just as I stay away from @obiero re: KQ Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

@Vitu... you have so much hatred for the national carrier. Have you seen in their fb that kq was "recognized as one of the top ten most improved airlines in the World and among Africa’s top 5 airlines by Skytraxx"

Back to HAFR, whether a pump and dump or hold, its day will come, and you know it.

Laughing out loudly @VVS at times it's also good to know the sentiments of the die hards. The calculations on paper loss or averaging down and when must be going on daily..


Haha, nothing personal just business. Guys are just here loving stocks. Ask yourself, does it love you back?
“The beauty of success is that it doesn’t matter how many times you have failed, you only have to be right once and then everyone can tell you how lucky you are.” - Mark Cuban
kaifastus
#609 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 1:47:52 PM
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When did this bashing begin? I mean is it a competition in stock investing? Ok KQ and home afrik, mumias and a few others stocks have dissapointed..well so what? we ave all pickd loosers at some point. this relentless bashing of guru and obiero by (guru and obiero) and a few other pple is too much..
VituVingiSana
#610 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:31:12 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
when stocks go down like this, we need not panic. look at britam it sunk to 4.00 from 9.00.
we should concentrate on whether this company is profitable, will it continue to grow profits, can we trust management. if all these are positive. buy the shares and ignore the noise.
Britam at 4? Lini? I think the lowest was 6
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
maka
#611 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:54:10 PM
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kaifastus wrote:
When did this bashing begin? I mean is it a competition in stock investing? Ok KQ and home afrik, mumias and a few others stocks have dissapointed..well so what? we ave all pickd loosers at some point. this relentless bashing of guru and obiero by (guru and obiero) and a few other pple is too much..

Just watch from the sidelines like the rest of us...@VVSs I believe Britam has ever gone sub 6.
possunt quia posse videntur
Akenyan2014
#612 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:58:13 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
when stocks go down like this, we need not panic. look at britam it sunk to 4.00 from 9.00.
we should concentrate on whether this company is profitable, will it continue to grow profits, can we trust management. if all these are positive. buy the shares and ignore the noise.
Britam at 4? Lini? I think the lowest was 6

hisah
#613 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:43:21 PM
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Akenyan2014 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
when stocks go down like this, we need not panic. look at britam it sunk to 4.00 from 9.00.
we should concentrate on whether this company is profitable, will it continue to grow profits, can we trust management. if all these are positive. buy the shares and ignore the noise.
Britam at 4? Lini? I think the lowest was 6


@vvs - on 20/02/2012 britank as it was called then while it was taking it in the chin post listing closed at 3.80/- all time low.

Btw the current britak cartoon shows a classic blow-off top pattern. Very steep ascend (parabolic) from 17.50 level since June 2014. Panafric had a steep rise in Feb and topped...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Angelica _ann
#614 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 3:47:04 PM
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maka wrote:
kaifastus wrote:
When did this bashing begin? I mean is it a competition in stock investing? Ok KQ and home afrik, mumias and a few others stocks have dissapointed..well so what? we ave all pickd loosers at some point. this relentless bashing of guru and obiero by (guru and obiero) and a few other pple is too much..

Just watch from the sidelines like the rest of us...@VVSs I believe Britam has ever gone sub 6.


1st half of 2012 ..... went below 5 bob thrice!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
INTERESTING!
#615 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 4:05:46 PM
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Guys here have been having a good discussion with HomeAfrika. I am beginning to trust @hisah. If you read through this thread from the beginning, this chap has been very consistent.

Not very sure about @guru Laughing out loudly ....but still, investing in the stock exchange is probabilistic.

No matter how good the information there is a chance you can loose money...however there is a higher chance on loosing money on some counters and HomeAfrika is proof of that.
Fomoney
#616 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 4:38:46 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
@guru, what do you think?


@Ectasy,difficult question.This is one price drop that requires, NO, demands one suspend any thinking, otherwise stress will bite!d'oh!
hisah
#617 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 5:06:45 PM
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INTERESTING! wrote:
Guys here have been having a good discussion with HomeAfrika. I am beginning to trust @hisah. If you read through this thread from the beginning, this chap has been very consistent.

Not very sure about @guru Laughing out loudly ....but still, investing in the stock exchange is probabilistic.

No matter how good the information there is a chance you can loose money...however there is a higher chance on loosing money on some counters and HomeAfrika is proof of that.

Do not trust me. Do your own due diligence... Otherwise the market will drain all your money.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
VituVingiSana
#618 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 5:57:13 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
Akenyan2014 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
@guru, what do you think?
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Ask @obiero for his views rather than @guru who is in the market to pump and dump these! ... Just as I stay away from @obiero re: KQ Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

@Vitu... you have so much hatred for the national carrier. Have you seen in their fb that kq was "recognized as one of the top ten most improved airlines in the World and among Africa’s top 5 airlines by Skytraxx"

Back to HAFR, whether a pump and dump or hold, its day will come, and you know it.

Laughing out loudly @VVS at times it's also good to know the sentiments of the die hards. The calculations on paper loss or averaging down and when must be going on daily..

No hard feelings. I do miss the back and forth of @guru and @obiero. Talk of bad investments... I listed them out somewhere. My bete noir is Olympia run by one useless and crooked Michael M Matu.
And whereas the folks at HAFR may not be like MMM, I have no knowledge to indicate otherwise.
As for KQ, as many have argued, the management has no stake in the business. And it shows. Compare to:
Pradeep Paunrana of ARM
James Mwangi of Equity
Benson Wairegi of Britam
Bharat Thakrar of ScanGroup
Nelson Kuria of CIC
Gideon Muriuki of Coop
Chris Kirubi of Centum
Martin Oduor-Otieno of KCB (former)
Bob Collymore of Safaricom
Frank Ireri of HFCK

MMM has shares in Olympia but decided it was more profitable to steal from the other shareholders. Add to that he is an incompetent manager!

I do not know Lee Karuri and his colleagues in HAFR. Hopefully, they will come through for the other shareholders of HAFR. Please remember that it is NOT the fault of HAFR's directors that shareholders went in to buy HAFR shares at crazy high prices without doing their research. What I will fault the directors is not being up-front with the accounting conventions used to declare huge profits before they were earned.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#619 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 5:59:35 PM
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hisah wrote:
Akenyan2014 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
when stocks go down like this, we need not panic. look at britam it sunk to 4.00 from 9.00.
we should concentrate on whether this company is profitable, will it continue to grow profits, can we trust management. if all these are positive. buy the shares and ignore the noise.
Britam at 4? Lini? I think the lowest was 6


@vvs - on 20/02/2012 britank as it was called then while it was taking it in the chin post listing closed at 3.80/- all time low.

Btw the current britak cartoon shows a classic blow-off top pattern. Very steep ascend (parabolic) from 17.50 level since June 2014. Panafric had a steep rise in Feb and topped...
Thanks! Wow... at 4/- it was a bargain basement bargain!!! Anyway, if I had a crystal ball... Drool Drool Drool
Please explain the "blow-off top" pattern. And do you see this AFTER the share has zoomed up or before it starts climbing?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#620 Posted : Wednesday, August 06, 2014 6:34:06 PM
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sparkly wrote:
guru267 wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
guru267 wrote:
dunkang wrote:
Home Afrika now touches 10.50/- per share.

Lady @Guru,its time for you to BUY!!!!!!! This thing will make you a billionaire in the long run. NOT!!!!

The rest of us, don't touch this MESS!



ill be back in at 9.5 bob!


You know these shares were going at 1.20 bob as recent as last year?
Ouch! Which mean Paka, Mumias & Olympia will soon have another friend!


9.05 now. @guru, next target?


8bob... smile

I got in today at 9.05... My average is now down to 10.85! Total of 28k shares...


You must have bought bucket loads at 9.05! I will only look this share when it goes to around KShs 5.


The squirrel has really ran down the hill. cant believe i said this less than 11 months ago.
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