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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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Forester wrote:While at it, what is reasonable dowry to pay for a Meru chic according to their traditions? I know of a guy who's been asked for over 0.5M. Ata kama dowry haishangi...seriously?!!! That is an OK dowry, not easily affordable, ata lipa pole pole, people have paid much more for ngooood meru ladies, just pay for a relaxed atmosphere at home! A New Kenya
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Quote:Please don’t invite me to your wedding committee:
1. If it is the first time you are speaking to me after 3 years. If you are not my friend and I am not yours, why are you involving me in your life at this point and time?
2. If you can afford to foot your wedding budget. Asking people to help should be just that help. Not funding your lavish lifestyle.
3. If I have never met your fiancee. That just means that we are not friends. And I will only take time out for my friends, no apologies there.
4. If we have never been friends. Seeing you in church doesn’t mean that you are my friend.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/8/2013 Posts: 386 Location: Nyali mombasa
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I am starting to get alot of SMSs from friends who want contributions for
1) dowry 2) pre-wedding 3) wedding 4) wedding committees 5) sijui goat eating. I have decide to ignore most of them because i don't think you should ask everyone to help you to marry your wife, what I have seen from where I am is that if any contribution is to be made the dad & uncles are the ones responsible. so I wont contribute, but Ill show up at your wedding with a very fat gift.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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smano wrote:I'm headed that way in a few months and I believe we are saying the same thing in different ways, we seem to agree on most of the core issues.
I'm a firm believer that our wedding is our wedding and no one else's. So I have saved for my entire dowry but my close friends and relatives all want to escort me because I have also walked with them in the past. So I won't begrudge them the opportunity to do so, it would simply unafrican. The extra funds can go to other areas of the wedding preparation.
We have also saved for the wedding and do not want a committee until the last few months strictly for logistic purposes. Quite a number of friends are already asking to be in the committee since they want to play a part, and once again, we won't begrudge them.
If it was up to me I'd only invite close friends and close relaz but our two families are massive and there's a very set extended family social dynamic that we can't ignore....so you find your relatives and parent's friends for both us already number 200 - 300, and that is a modest estimate. That is when a wedding starts stressing a couple and you see them going to such lengths to keep up with the Macharia's whose wealthy parents funded the fairy tale wedding to the cent! Thankfully, ni vizuri kua mtu wa watu, as McDoba asks, who do you hang out with?
Anyway, the long and short of it is that a wedding is very personal but is a social event for genuine close friends and relatives who are genuinely happy for you. The rest who come to see whether it was as high profile as theirs or whatever, those will not be around when you're having a marriage...
I also believe if you have set a good foundation and have put yourself in good stead with the chic's family, there would be person's in the dowry negotiation who would be against you being taken advantage of as the guy. Maybe I'm naive but hayo ndio maoni yangu... @Smano congrats on your upcoming nuptials. Word of advise... Arusi si yako, ni ya bibi. Achia bibi na marafiki wake waipange. Yours is just to offer maximum support on the budget, pay dowry, get vehicles for the day, panga honeymoon and of course show up and enjoy yourself on the big day. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/1/2010 Posts: 3,024 Location: Hapa
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Kihara joni wrote:I am starting to get alot of SMSs from friends who want contributions for
1) dowry 2) pre-wedding 3) wedding 4) wedding committees 5) sijui goat eating. I have decide to ignore most of them because i don't think you should ask everyone to help you to marry your wife, what I have seen from where I am is that if any contribution is to be made the dad & uncles are the ones responsible. so I wont contribute, but Ill show up at your wedding with a very fat gift. Bora hio very fat gift sio kitambi Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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sparkly wrote:smano wrote:I'm headed that way in a few months and I believe we are saying the same thing in different ways, we seem to agree on most of the core issues.
I'm a firm believer that our wedding is our wedding and no one else's. So I have saved for my entire dowry but my close friends and relatives all want to escort me because I have also walked with them in the past. So I won't begrudge them the opportunity to do so, it would simply unafrican. The extra funds can go to other areas of the wedding preparation.
We have also saved for the wedding and do not want a committee until the last few months strictly for logistic purposes. Quite a number of friends are already asking to be in the committee since they want to play a part, and once again, we won't begrudge them.
If it was up to me I'd only invite close friends and close relaz but our two families are massive and there's a very set extended family social dynamic that we can't ignore....so you find your relatives and parent's friends for both us already number 200 - 300, and that is a modest estimate. That is when a wedding starts stressing a couple and you see them going to such lengths to keep up with the Macharia's whose wealthy parents funded the fairy tale wedding to the cent! Thankfully, ni vizuri kua mtu wa watu, as McDoba asks, who do you hang out with?
Anyway, the long and short of it is that a wedding is very personal but is a social event for genuine close friends and relatives who are genuinely happy for you. The rest who come to see whether it was as high profile as theirs or whatever, those will not be around when you're having a marriage...
I also believe if you have set a good foundation and have put yourself in good stead with the chic's family, there would be person's in the dowry negotiation who would be against you being taken advantage of as the guy. Maybe I'm naive but hayo ndio maoni yangu... @Smano congrats on your upcoming nuptials. Word of advise... Arusi si yako, ni ya bibi. Achia bibi na marafiki wake waipange. Yours is just to offer maximum support on the budget, pay dowry, get vehicles for the day, panga honeymoon and of course show up and enjoy yourself on the big day. Guys need to read dates of posts. The wedding happened, we celebrated with @smano, accepted and moved on. They are in bliss now world like @washiku! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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butterflyke wrote:Kihara joni wrote:I am starting to get alot of SMSs from friends who want contributions for
1) dowry 2) pre-wedding 3) wedding 4) wedding committees 5) sijui goat eating. I have decide to ignore most of them because i don't think you should ask everyone to help you to marry your wife, what I have seen from where I am is that if any contribution is to be made the dad & uncles are the ones responsible. so I wont contribute, but Ill show up at your wedding with a very fat gift. Bora hio very fat gift sio kitambi Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/8/2013 Posts: 386 Location: Nyali mombasa
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Kwani hiyo fat gift ni ya 2k shindwe! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/1/2010 Posts: 3,024 Location: Hapa
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Angelica _ann wrote:Kwani hiyo fat gift ni ya 2k shindwe! kitambi takes some investment, more than 2K Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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butterflyke wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Kwani hiyo fat gift ni ya 2k shindwe! kitambi takes some investment, more than 2K That kitambi I suspect is insured.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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Rank: User Joined: 9/6/2013 Posts: 1,446 Location: In a house
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/25/2010 Posts: 42 Location: Kenya
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Did a job for this fella, hasn't paid me for 2 years halafu he has the nerve to invite me to be on his Wedding Commitee? Some people are shameless
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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WakaWaka wrote:Did a job for this fella, hasn't paid me for 2 years halafu he has the nerve to invite me to be on his Wedding Commitee? Some people are shameless @WakaWaka, That's a good opportunity to meet up the guy and remind him of the pending matter. When he is wedding moods, an sure he will be obliged to pay as he enters a " new chapter" in his life "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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