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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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[quote=washiku]And Kalonzo wants a rotational presidency http://www.the-star.co.k...tional-presidency-kenya[/quote]  I thought he was bragging they have 70% ?? i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/8/2013 Posts: 386 Location: Nyali mombasa
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what about all these nominated leaders I feel that we should abolish them too,and these rowdy MCAs should be dealt with (degree lazima)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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My understanding of a referendum is that, it's a question/proposal posed to the electorate for a yes or no answer. With all these interest groups coming out of the woodwork to have their issues voted on. Wouldn't it be easier to do another constitution altogether? I mean, look at the the number of issues, how many Kenyans will be disenfranchised when it comes to the actual voting due to the complexity of the question/answer? Anyway what do i know about elections...Masukuma saidia!
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Kratos wrote:My understanding of a referendum is that, it's a question/proposal posed to the electorate for a yes or no answer. With all these interest groups coming out of the woodwork to have their issues voted on. Wouldn't it be easier to do another constitution altogether? I mean, look at the the number of issues, how many Kenyans will be disenfranchised when it comes to the actual voting due to the complexity of the question/answer? Anyway what do i know about elections...Masukuma saidia! Basically you are saying we should have voted NO  i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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harrydre wrote:Kratos wrote:My understanding of a referendum is that, it's a question/proposal posed to the electorate for a yes or no answer. With all these interest groups coming out of the woodwork to have their issues voted on. Wouldn't it be easier to do another constitution altogether? I mean, look at the the number of issues, how many Kenyans will be disenfranchised when it comes to the actual voting due to the complexity of the question/answer? Anyway what do i know about elections...Masukuma saidia! Basically you are saying we should have voted NO Basically those calling for the referendum are the ones who are saying the current constitution needs an overhaul, mimi ni wanjiku tuu!
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,941
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Kratos wrote:harrydre wrote:Kratos wrote:My understanding of a referendum is that, it's a question/proposal posed to the electorate for a yes or no answer. With all these interest groups coming out of the woodwork to have their issues voted on. Wouldn't it be easier to do another constitution altogether? I mean, look at the the number of issues, how many Kenyans will be disenfranchised when it comes to the actual voting due to the complexity of the question/answer? Anyway what do i know about elections...Masukuma saidia! Basically you are saying we should have voted NO Basically those calling for the referendum are the ones who are saying the current constitution needs an overhaul, mimi ni wanjiku tuu! Let us work on the referendum questions, how they are presented to Wanjiku is @masukuma & co's head. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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Kratos wrote:My understanding of a referendum is that, it's a question/proposal posed to the electorate for a yes or no answer. With all these interest groups coming out of the woodwork to have their issues voted on. Wouldn't it be easier to do another constitution altogether? I mean, look at the the number of issues, how many Kenyans will be disenfranchised when it comes to the actual voting due to the complexityo of the question/answer? Anyway what do i know about elections...Masukuma saidia! Also do not understand why we need referendum at all. Have they taken these proposals to Parliament first? At this rate we will be having referendum every other other day! Can I also say I want referendum: government to manufacture money and dish to everyone...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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Angelica _ann wrote:Kratos wrote:harrydre wrote:Kratos wrote:My understanding of a referendum is that, it's a question/proposal posed to the electorate for a yes or no answer. With all these interest groups coming out of the woodwork to have their issues voted on. Wouldn't it be easier to do another constitution altogether? I mean, look at the the number of issues, how many Kenyans will be disenfranchised when it comes to the actual voting due to the complexity of the question/answer? Anyway what do i know about elections...Masukuma saidia! Basically you are saying we should have voted NO Basically those calling for the referendum are the ones who are saying the current constitution needs an overhaul, mimi ni wanjiku tuu! Let us work on the referendum questions, how they are presented to Wanjiku is @masukuma & co's head. I trust you remember the shenanigans with the rejected and spoilt votes in the last election. Consider that these will be specific questions with no pictures of UK or RAO to "simplify" matters. Also rate the typical Kenyan voter in terms of understanding. We are in for a messy ride if you ask me no matter what questions are asked. It would be much easier to just have another Bomas to change what everyone agrees on first or better yet use already existing channels which one party is unwilling to try.
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,941
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Kratos wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Kratos wrote:harrydre wrote:Kratos wrote:My understanding of a referendum is that, it's a question/proposal posed to the electorate for a yes or no answer. With all these interest groups coming out of the woodwork to have their issues voted on. Wouldn't it be easier to do another constitution altogether? I mean, look at the the number of issues, how many Kenyans will be disenfranchised when it comes to the actual voting due to the complexity of the question/answer? Anyway what do i know about elections...Masukuma saidia! Basically you are saying we should have voted NO Basically those calling for the referendum are the ones who are saying the current constitution needs an overhaul, mimi ni wanjiku tuu! Let us work on the referendum questions, how they are presented to Wanjiku is @masukuma & co's head. I trust you remember the shenanigans with the rejected and spoilt votes in the last election. Consider that these will be specific questions with no pictures of UK or RAO to "simplify" matters. Also rate the typical Kenyan voter in terms of understanding. We are in for a messy ride if you ask me no matter what questions are asked. It would be much easier to just have another Bomas to change what everyone agrees on first or better yet use already existing channels which one party is unwilling to try. Even the Governors' Council is taking the referendum root after being made Secretaries at County Development meetings .......... so if Jubilee doesnt want to Dialogue let 'the people aka wanjiku' decide! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Per the law of Kenya, The President has the final say on when the referendum will be held. Per the same law of Kenya collecting signatures without a bill passed by parliament on what is to be voted for or against is futile. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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