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One soul army
tycho
#21 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 3:07:28 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
The one man army is a common theme in many cultures. It's the driver of legends, and histories.

Children take to it naturally and spend many dreams and fantasies on it but lose it in 'adulthood'. Why?

Now in these days of my consciousness I realize that it's a treasure, and its demands are high, when one seriously considers that the one soul army is the most potent of political weapons. The seed, the root, and fruit, the driver of seasons and guardian of freedom and flourish.


Tycho, do you consider yourself a 'one man' army?

If so, who/what is it you are supposed to fight?

After all an army's raison de'tre is to fight, no?

Is a one man army the same as a one soul army?


'I am' entails a war and a dance against itself.


Why?


'Why'? What causes war and dance? Singularity. Singularity, nothingness.

I-am.
tycho
#22 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 3:13:37 PM
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Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
I have just noticed this is in "Politics".

In this case it is just politics. Polemic. If so there is negligible truth here if any.

Right or left, politics is the same.


We perceive with our psychological intentions. So observations say much of the observer than the observed.


No, not like that. I meant in politics not in the army or legion.


Explanations are clothes. You must strip to nakedness.

Wakanyugi
#23 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 3:28:24 PM
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tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
The one man army is a common theme in many cultures. It's the driver of legends, and histories.

Children take to it naturally and spend many dreams and fantasies on it but lose it in 'adulthood'. Why?

Now in these days of my consciousness I realize that it's a treasure, and its demands are high, when one seriously considers that the one soul army is the most potent of political weapons. The seed, the root, and fruit, the driver of seasons and guardian of freedom and flourish.


Tycho, do you consider yourself a 'one man' army?

If so, who/what is it you are supposed to fight?

After all an army's raison de'tre is to fight, no?

Is a one man army the same as a one soul army?


'I am' entails a war and a dance against itself.


Why?


'Why'? What causes war and dance? Singularity. Singularity, nothingness.

I-am.


Tycho, I get singularity, I-am and all that.

But why war?

Or, as Barret and Whitfield asked in the song WAR, what is it good for?
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
tycho
#24 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:02:38 PM
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Joined: 7/1/2011
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Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
The one man army is a common theme in many cultures. It's the driver of legends, and histories.

Children take to it naturally and spend many dreams and fantasies on it but lose it in 'adulthood'. Why?

Now in these days of my consciousness I realize that it's a treasure, and its demands are high, when one seriously considers that the one soul army is the most potent of political weapons. The seed, the root, and fruit, the driver of seasons and guardian of freedom and flourish.


Tycho, do you consider yourself a 'one man' army?

If so, who/what is it you are supposed to fight?

After all an army's raison de'tre is to fight, no?

Is a one man army the same as a one soul army?


'I am' entails a war and a dance against itself.


Why?


'Why'? What causes war and dance? Singularity. Singularity, nothingness.

I-am.


Tycho, I get singularity, I-am and all that.

But why war?

Or, as Barret and Whitfield asked in the song WAR, what is it good for?


If there's zero, one, two, . . . then any equilibrium must be dynamic. Such an equilibrium must entail conflict. Like in the case of a mother and child.
Wakanyugi
#25 Posted : Friday, August 01, 2014 12:32:37 PM
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tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
The one man army is a common theme in many cultures. It's the driver of legends, and histories.

Children take to it naturally and spend many dreams and fantasies on it but lose it in 'adulthood'. Why?

Now in these days of my consciousness I realize that it's a treasure, and its demands are high, when one seriously considers that the one soul army is the most potent of political weapons. The seed, the root, and fruit, the driver of seasons and guardian of freedom and flourish.


Tycho, do you consider yourself a 'one man' army?

If so, who/what is it you are supposed to fight?

After all an army's raison de'tre is to fight, no?

Is a one man army the same as a one soul army?


'I am' entails a war and a dance against itself.


Why?


'Why'? What causes war and dance? Singularity. Singularity, nothingness.

I-am.


Tycho, I get singularity, I-am and all that.

But why war?

Or, as Barret and Whitfield asked in the song WAR, what is it good for?


If there's zero, one, two, . . . then any equilibrium must be dynamic. Such an equilibrium must entail conflict. Like in the case of a mother and child.


Ah, OK. You equate war with conflict.

Isorait.

Me I think war, being organized cruelty, a uniquely man made enterprise, is as far removed from conflict as day from night.

Conflict in my book is equivalent to contrast, an (illusory) expression of difference. Conflict misunderstood may lead to War but War does not resolve conflict.


"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Muriel
#26 Posted : Friday, August 01, 2014 12:42:55 PM
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tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
I have just noticed this is in "Politics".

In this case it is just politics. Polemic. If so there is negligible truth here if any.

Right or left, politics is the same.


We perceive with our psychological intentions. So observations say much of the observer than the observed.


No, not like that. I meant in politics not in the army or legion.


Explanations are clothes. You must strip to nakedness.



Like the emperor?

I think his clothes were not explained. Was it good?
Muriel
#27 Posted : Friday, August 01, 2014 12:50:29 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
The one man army is a common theme in many cultures. It's the driver of legends, and histories.

Children take to it naturally and spend many dreams and fantasies on it but lose it in 'adulthood'. Why?

Now in these days of my consciousness I realize that it's a treasure, and its demands are high, when one seriously considers that the one soul army is the most potent of political weapons. The seed, the root, and fruit, the driver of seasons and guardian of freedom and flourish.


Tycho, do you consider yourself a 'one man' army?

If so, who/what is it you are supposed to fight?

After all an army's raison de'tre is to fight, no?

Is a one man army the same as a one soul army?


'I am' entails a war and a dance against itself.


Why?


'Why'? What causes war and dance? Singularity. Singularity, nothingness.

I-am.


Tycho, I get singularity, I-am and all that.

But why war?

Or, as Barret and Whitfield asked in the song WAR, what is it good for?


If there's zero, one, two, . . . then any equilibrium must be dynamic. Such an equilibrium must entail conflict. Like in the case of a mother and child.


Ah, OK. You equate war with conflict.

Isorait.

Me I think war, being organized cruelty, a uniquely man made enterprise, is as far removed from conflict as day from night.

Conflict in my book is equivalent to contrast, an (illusory) expression of difference. Conflict misunderstood may lead to War but War does not resolve conflict.




War is conflict and is politics.
Wakanyugi
#28 Posted : Friday, August 01, 2014 2:17:50 PM
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Muriel wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
The one man army is a common theme in many cultures. It's the driver of legends, and histories.

Children take to it naturally and spend many dreams and fantasies on it but lose it in 'adulthood'. Why?

Now in these days of my consciousness I realize that it's a treasure, and its demands are high, when one seriously considers that the one soul army is the most potent of political weapons. The seed, the root, and fruit, the driver of seasons and guardian of freedom and flourish.


Tycho, do you consider yourself a 'one man' army?

If so, who/what is it you are supposed to fight?

After all an army's raison de'tre is to fight, no?

Is a one man army the same as a one soul army?


'I am' entails a war and a dance against itself.


Why?


'Why'? What causes war and dance? Singularity. Singularity, nothingness.

I-am.


Tycho, I get singularity, I-am and all that.

But why war?

Or, as Barret and Whitfield asked in the song WAR, what is it good for?


If there's zero, one, two, . . . then any equilibrium must be dynamic. Such an equilibrium must entail conflict. Like in the case of a mother and child.


Ah, OK. You equate war with conflict.

Isorait.

Me I think war, being organized cruelty, a uniquely man made enterprise, is as far removed from conflict as day from night.

Conflict in my book is equivalent to contrast, an (illusory) expression of difference. Conflict misunderstood may lead to War but War does not resolve conflict.




War is conflict and is politics.


I beg to disagree.

War is organized mass cruelty of man to his own kind or other life. Another name for insanity.

Conflict is an expression of contrast, the quality that differentiates, for instance, life, one form from another. Conflict/contrast is a critical strength and an important factor for sustaining 3D reality. Without it our reality, as we know it, would probably end.

Using conflict to excuse the extremes of human negative behavior, as we see in politics or war, is like using the holy Bible or holy Koran to justify terrorism.

But, wait, we already do that
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
tycho
#29 Posted : Friday, August 01, 2014 2:42:22 PM
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@Wakanyugi, the war you're describing is the one without, a culmination of the one within the individual. You're talking about 'macro-politics', the result of 'micro-politics'.

Pick any person involved in killing others, is that person devoid of an internal conflict driven by deliberate intent, strategy, weaponry, violence within and against the self?

Pick the man on the street, sit him down in a quiet place. Or observe him from a far. Is that person devoid of conflict? How does he deal with the conflict? War must be.

On the other hand, the greatest general wins a war without violence. The strategy employed by the greatest general then involves himself mostly.

Sun Tzu speaks of the enlightened Taoist. War and Tao?
tycho
#30 Posted : Friday, August 01, 2014 3:02:40 PM
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Muriel, 'I think', is a cloth.
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