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Nganga to replace Otieno as Kenya Airforce Commander
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#11 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:05:24 AM
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McReggae wrote:
It's all succession politics at KDF, Gen. Otieno was never going to be head of the military in whatever circumstances, Gen Opande was the finest Luo General but never made it, how could Gen Otieno hack it, no way!!!



......and loyalty politics too I guess.

Its not forgotten that a certain Snr O in the police force did NOT act in Lamu-Mpeketoni.

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#12 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:08:45 AM
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Impunity wrote:
TAZ wrote:
McReggae wrote:
mawinder wrote:
McReggae wrote:
It's all succession politics at KDF, Gen. Otieno was never going to be head of the military in whatever circumstances, Gen Opande was the finest Luo General but never made it, how could Gen Otieno hack it, no way!!!

You hit the nail on the head.The successor has to be Jarabuon at all costs!!!!!!


Otieno was the youngest of all the generals and had been at his post for the shortest period of time, enyewe jina zingine ni burden!!!!!


The Army Commander Lieutenant General Joseph Kiptoo Kasaon is younger than him.


Why was @Otieno retired when he was among the youngest Generals?
d'oh!


Maybe he chose retirement, maybe he messed up somewhere, who knows? We can speculate all day and get nowhere.

Anyway, in military the practice world over is the presidents appoint people they can trust and rely on. Bottom line, let's hope we'll see safer days ahead.

BBI will solve it
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ZZE123
#13 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:08:49 AM
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mawinder wrote:
Impunity wrote:
TAZ wrote:
McReggae wrote:
mawinder wrote:
McReggae wrote:
It's all succession politics at KDF, Gen. Otieno was never going to be head of the military in whatever circumstances, Gen Opande was the finest Luo General but never made it, how could Gen Otieno hack it, no way!!!

You hit the nail on the head.The successor has to be Jarabuon at all costs!!!!!!


Otieno was the youngest of all the generals and had been at his post for the shortest period of time, enyewe jina zingine ni burden!!!!!


The Army Commander Lieutenant General Joseph Kiptoo Kasaon is younger than him.


Why was @Otieno retired when he was among the youngest Generals?
d'oh!

I thought you know the answer well, to enable Nganga to take over as Otieno is a Luo and this is KK alliance govt.

On matters security, if I was president I would appoint people I trust to head the institutions – Period!!!!
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McReggae
#14 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:11:00 AM
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Maybe the only headline that remains is that Raila retires, he has been replaced by Njoroge!!!!!
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TAZ
#15 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:13:39 AM
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Impunity wrote:
TAZ wrote:
McReggae wrote:
mawinder wrote:
McReggae wrote:
It's all succession politics at KDF, Gen. Otieno was never going to be head of the military in whatever circumstances, Gen Opande was the finest Luo General but never made it, how could Gen Otieno hack it, no way!!!

You hit the nail on the head.The successor has to be Jarabuon at all costs!!!!!!


Otieno was the youngest of all the generals and had been at his post for the shortest period of time, enyewe jina zingine ni burden!!!!!


The Army Commander Lieutenant General Joseph Kiptoo Kasaon is younger than him.


Why was @Otieno retired when he was among the youngest Generals?
d'oh!


"Under the internal administrative rules popularly known as Tonje Rule, Chief of Defence Forces (CDF) retires at 62 years while lieutenant-generals and major-generals retire at the age of 58 and 56 respectively if they are not promoted to the next rank."

Otieno was 58 yrs Old, it was either retirement or he becomes CDF!
mawinder
#16 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:16:32 AM
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ZZE123 wrote:
mawinder wrote:
Impunity wrote:
TAZ wrote:
McReggae wrote:
mawinder wrote:
McReggae wrote:
It's all succession politics at KDF, Gen. Otieno was never going to be head of the military in whatever circumstances, Gen Opande was the finest Luo General but never made it, how could Gen Otieno hack it, no way!!!

You hit the nail on the head.The successor has to be Jarabuon at all costs!!!!!!


Otieno was the youngest of all the generals and had been at his post for the shortest period of time, enyewe jina zingine ni burden!!!!!


The Army Commander Lieutenant General Joseph Kiptoo Kasaon is younger than him.


Why was @Otieno retired when he was among the youngest Generals?
d'oh!

I thought you know the answer well, to enable Nganga to take over as Otieno is a Luo and this is KK alliance govt.

On matters security, if I was president I would appoint people I trust to head the institutions – Period!!!!

So Freedom Muigai can trust Nganga and not Otieno. It is okay.
McReggae
#17 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:19:46 AM
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TAZ wrote:
Impunity wrote:
TAZ wrote:
McReggae wrote:
mawinder wrote:
McReggae wrote:
It's all succession politics at KDF, Gen. Otieno was never going to be head of the military in whatever circumstances, Gen Opande was the finest Luo General but never made it, how could Gen Otieno hack it, no way!!!

You hit the nail on the head.The successor has to be Jarabuon at all costs!!!!!!


Otieno was the youngest of all the generals and had been at his post for the shortest period of time, enyewe jina zingine ni burden!!!!!


The Army Commander Lieutenant General Joseph Kiptoo Kasaon is younger than him.


Why was @Otieno retired when he was among the youngest Generals?
d'oh!


"Under the internal administrative rules popularly known as Tonje Rule, Chief of Defence Forces (CDF) retires at 62 years while lieutenant-generals and major-generals retire at the age of 58 and 56 respectively if they are not promoted to the next rank."

Otieno was 58 yrs Old, it was either retirement or he becomes CDF!


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Of cause the Tonje rules are applied when it makes sense to the establishment and Otieno is not yet 58!!!!
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McReggae
#18 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:22:00 AM
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Strict application of Tonje rules would have meant that we don't keep recycling Karangi so that the lower ranks suffer!!!
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harrydre
#19 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:26:03 AM
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Muache ujinga! Omamo retired Otieno, freedom just endorsed.
And those promotions seem fairly balanced!

Quote:
There were also new commanders for the Eastern and Western commands in the major changes effected by the Defence Council, which is chaired by Defence Cabinet Secretary Raychelle Omamo and endorsed by President Uhuru Kenyatta, according to an announcement from Department of Defence headquarters.
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MKWASI
#20 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:26:11 AM
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Why the blame game. Mr Otieno was in that meeting that made that decision. May be he opted to retire voluntarily to pursue personal interest or (interest of the party!!)

Let us not be too quick to judge. Has Mr Otieno complained? Why are we speaking on his behalf and by the way Mr Otieno belongs to the tribe called Kenya and so is Mr. Ng'ang'a.

As Babu once put it when asked why he had appointed all his relatives, just because you come from the tribe of the holder of the house on the hill or the PM in no way should your right to be appointed be withheld.

As a kenyan, I wish Mr Otieno well in his future endeavors.
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