Later on, 13 years later, Isaac was born from Sarah, when Abraham was 100 years old (for doubting Thomases Gen 21:5). And Abraham's wife SARAH received the following favor, just like Hagar above:

"And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be {a mother} of nations; kings of people shall be of her. Gen. 17:16"

NOTE: AM NIT TRYING TO SAY WHO'S BETTER AND WHO'S NOT BETTER. AM JUST EDUCATING THOSE WHO DIDN'T KNOW THIS. AM EDUCATING HHOSE WHO HAVE BEEN LIED TO BY CHURCH THAT ISAAC WAS THE FIRST BORN.

@muganda before asking the who brought help, ask who brought the problem?

1. US created al-Qaeda
2. US trained and armed al-Qaeda
3. US used them to fight USSR
4. US tried to clean-up the mess (for those who know what happened in Ouko case and all those involved were all killed to cover up evidence)
5. Al-qaeda with all the intellgence and knwldge of how US operates became difficult to track down
6. US invented new meaning of terrorism and named their own created group terror group
7. It became a class between US and Al-Qaeda, each hunting down the other
8. Al-qaeda targeted US embassies, remember Nairobi and Tz bombing
9. Kenyans were caught in the process. Even my own family was affected, check one thread above.

So x caused y, to carried out z.

@nandwa and @muganda how then do you exempt x from responsibility?

Do you think the arms given to them by US was aid to be given to starving children?

Don't you know weapons are for killing?

Do you what al-qaeda did in the middle-East while working for US was drinking porridge with the guns?

Don't you know the weapons were being used to kill people?

The same way they are now supplying weapons to Israel?

@AlphDoti no issue if in good faith, we applied the same uniform standard...

• Muhammad created Islam, the religion
• Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule
• History of caliphates shows Muhammad deliberately used Islam as a tool for violent conquests and spread of political capital
• In all recent slaughter of innocent in Kenya for political reasons, aggressors are Muslim and often target other faiths

So I concede, if USA is responsible for AlQaeda, then Muhammad would be the father of modern terrorism.

Do you think a life lived in violence would yield peace just by naming it Islam? Would Kenya have had the embassy bombings or other terrorist attacks if Islam had not existed?

It has reached a point where death is a better option than living like animals under Israelis!

I don't hear any of the dying Palestinians condemning Hamas...

We also have confession from Hilary Clinton to their role in creating and training and arming and financing the group that the boy belonged.

'The people we were fighting today, we funded 20 years ago...' Hilary Clinton.

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US supplied the weapons and missiles way before this lad was born. It does not matter home country. Al Qaeda and Taliban were recruited from middle East. BY US GOVT, IF YOU"RE FORGETTING.

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Are you saying children of rich men don't get into bad things? Drugs, hijacking, robbing, killing (example Mercy keino case)

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It is not about religion my friend. After using these people, US tried to eliminate them (what is called cleaning up the mess, and I gave Ouko case, where all those involved were all killed to cover up evidence). But Al-qaeda with all the intelligence and knowldge of how US operates became difficult to track down.
US invented new meaning of terrorism and named their own created group terror group, and said these are Muslims, and took these people as examplary Muslims, and using their media maligned the name of Islam. So it became a clash between US and Al-Qaeda/Taliban, each one hunting down the other, where Al-qaeda targeted US embassies, example Nairobi and Tz bombing.

So it was not about religion, it was about doing what US is best in doing. Unfortunately, Kenyans were caught in the process, including my own family who are Muslims (I mentioned this in one thread above).

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So to me:
- Those who carried out the act are guilty (Al Qaeda and Taliban members)
- Those who created this group, setup training camps, trained them, supplied them with weapons and missiles, etc are alro guilty (and you have confession from Hilary Clinton)

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Islam condemns killing of innocent lives. Here is a case of US creating a group. They use this group to kill people. They are told to say some things as they carry out these acts. That does not make them Muslims. Because Muslims adhere to certain principles. If you don't follow those principles, then these people stopped being Muslims that moment. Just like I will not call a murderer called John a Christian murderer, because he's not following Christianity. He's simply a criminal.

How do you expect to hear the dying?.....Anyway I saw one lady whose house was bombed saying that 'All arabs are cursed' for causing them such suffering.

Death is a really tiny price to pay for Independence!