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NSE IPO
Aguytrying
#121 Posted : Friday, July 25, 2014 1:59:17 PM
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hooverrl wrote:
Hi everyone,

Lots of good points raised. I'm generally skeptical of IPOs, but this looks like it may offer some long-term value to individual investors.

I just posted my quick valuation exercise for the IPO here.

Is the NSE IPO a Bargain?

Many thanks, and I greatly value your feedback!

Ryan



Thanks for that scintillating analysis. As Ruskin has noted, they are a flurry of new listings, Rights issues, REITS and fixed income securities occurring this year and in 2015. So the earnings of the NSE may assume a new higher normal. If the derivatives, options and futures also come on board that can sustain a growth momentum over the years. I like your conservative estimates, better than to over estimate.

I believe at the minimum, your estimate will be achieved.

The offer is seeking to raise only 627M shillings, if even a few institutional jump onto this counter, the will be a massive over subscription. the only threat to this i feel is that, lay investors and even other investors may not fully understand or appreciate NSE as business hence it may be hard to whip up the excitement like other IPO's have done.
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Mastermind
#122 Posted : Friday, July 25, 2014 3:44:48 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
hooverrl wrote:
Hi everyone,

Lots of good points raised. I'm generally skeptical of IPOs, but this looks like it may offer some long-term value to individual investors.

I just posted my quick valuation exercise for the IPO here.

Is the NSE IPO a Bargain?

Many thanks, and I greatly value your feedback!

Ryan



Thanks for that scintillating analysis. As Ruskin has noted, they are a flurry of new listings, Rights issues, REITS and fixed income securities occurring this year and in 2015. So the earnings of the NSE may assume a new higher normal. If the derivatives, options and futures also come on board that can sustain a growth momentum over the years. I like your conservative estimates, better than to over estimate.

I believe at the minimum, your estimate will be achieved.

The offer is seeking to raise only 627M shillings, if even a few institutional jump onto this counter, the will be a massive over subscription. the only threat to this i feel is that, lay investors and even other investors may not fully understand or appreciate NSE as business hence it may be hard to whip up the excitement like other IPO's have done.


Tax rate should be less than 30% though.
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VituVingiSana
#123 Posted : Friday, July 25, 2014 6:44:26 PM
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120mn [not 115mn] written back as 'recovered' from 2 collapsed brokers. Read 17(b). Non-recurring.
40mn for "Market Access" from CBA. Likely to be non-recurring.
There is another 41mn bad debt "write back" but I cannot determine what it is for. Non-recurring"

So add these up and one gets 200mn in "non-recurring" income that goes straight to the bottom-line.
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Aguytrying
#124 Posted : Saturday, July 26, 2014 12:08:12 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
120mn [not 115mn] written back as 'recovered' from 2 collapsed brokers. Read 17(b). Non-recurring.
40mn for "Market Access" from CBA. Likely to be non-recurring.
There is another 41mn bad debt "write back" but I cannot determine what it is for. Non-recurring"

So add these up and one gets 200mn in "non-recurring" income that goes straight to the bottom-line.


Thanks for opening our eyes. Im not so sure about this IPO now. For sure a profit warning is coming
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Ericsson
#125 Posted : Wednesday, July 30, 2014 5:11:23 PM
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NSE IPO is on-going and they can't even update the daily price list on their website.
Site still showing prices of last week Friday
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Wondergirl
#126 Posted : Wednesday, July 30, 2014 5:32:34 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
NSE IPO is on-going and they can't even update the daily price list on their website.
Site still showing prices of last week Friday

@ ericsson,
How comes there is no agressive advertising like in yestar IPOs? I have not seen it on TV!Sad Though this is not a fis market, something fishy seems to be going on.Shame on you
mlennyma
#127 Posted : Wednesday, July 30, 2014 5:40:22 PM
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On radios its being advertised,on tv i have not yet seen.
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Ericsson
#128 Posted: : Wednesday, July 30, 2014 6:14:16 PM
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@Wondergirl;
Maybe they didn't allocate enough money to do a massive advertising
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icecube
#129 Posted : Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:02:51 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
On radios its being advertised,on tv i have not yet seen.


May be they are targeting radio listeners, not TV viewers.
Wondergirl
#130 Posted : Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:44:32 PM
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icecube wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
On radios its being advertised,on tv i have not yet seen.


May be they are targeting radio listeners, not TV viewers.

Laughing out loudly d'oh!
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