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#41 Posted : Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:19:53 AM
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Chaka wrote:
Tall Order wrote:
Currently the Money Market Funds offer better returns than the T-Bills. Bonds require long term investment, which is money you don't need in the medium term.

Top MMFs are Amana Capital, Zimele, CIC, Madison Asset, Britam & GenCap.



Where do the MMF's invest these funds?



I suppose bonds za mayuu like the Eurobond etal!
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snipermnoma
#42 Posted : Friday, May 16, 2014 12:55:44 AM
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Anyone know the process of buying bonds on secondary market?
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Eneth
#43 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2014 6:35:29 PM
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Where can I get the listing of the available Company Bonds?
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Ericsson
#44 Posted : Friday, May 30, 2014 11:10:25 PM
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NSE daily bond price list
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#45 Posted : Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:20:01 PM
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http://af.reuters.com/ar...AFJ8N0O100Y20140724...a sharp drop in the 91 day T-bill rate.But of interest is the subscription,only 753 million shillings for 3 billion shillings worth of bills on offer.
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kizee1
#46 Posted : Thursday, July 24, 2014 9:36:37 PM
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snipermnoma wrote:
Anyone know the process of buying bonds on secondary market?



go through a broker,expect disappointment if your lot sizes are tiny
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Mukiri
#47 Posted : Friday, July 25, 2014 1:50:31 AM
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Jarida wrote:
Tell him to get the Jamii Bora Bonds. Returns are at 13% per annum better than the TBills.

Tall Order wrote:
Currently the Money Market Funds offer better returns than the T-Bills. Bonds require long term investment, which is money you don't need in the medium term.

Top MMFs are Amana Capital, Zimele, CIC, Madison Asset, Britam & GenCap.

Does this still hold true? And where would I get info on returns, for all available instruments, for comparison purposes?

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maka
#48 Posted : Friday, July 25, 2014 8:51:25 AM
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snipermnoma wrote:
Anyone know the process of buying bonds on secondary market?


If you go through the daily/weekly bond price list you will notice that most trades are in lots of 100m,anything below this figure is normally traded as an odd lot,buying a bond for let's say 50k or 100k is almost close to impossible as most people who buy such small lots at the primary tend to hold to maturity...I think it's high time someone started a trading desk for small lots...upto maybe 10m.
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kizee1
#49 Posted : Friday, July 25, 2014 9:46:32 AM
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maka wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
Anyone know the process of buying bonds on secondary market?


If you go through the daily/weekly bond price list you will notice that most trades are in lots of 100m,anything below this figure is normally traded as an odd lot,buying a bond for let's say 50k or 100k is almost close to impossible as most people who buy such small lots at the primary tend to hold to maturity...I think it's high time someone started a trading desk for small lots...upto maybe 10m.



well that someone could be me and you ;-)
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#50 Posted : Friday, July 25, 2014 12:04:21 PM
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kizee1 wrote:
maka wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
Anyone know the process of buying bonds on secondary market?


If you go through the daily/weekly bond price list you will notice that most trades are in lots of 100m,anything below this figure is normally traded as an odd lot,buying a bond for let's say 50k or 100k is almost close to impossible as most people who buy such small lots at the primary tend to hold to maturity...I think it's high time someone started a trading desk for small lots...upto maybe 10m.



well that someone could be me and you ;-)


Commissions are too low for bonds. Not worth the effort. And the paperwork is more than trading equities.
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