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13 Israeli IDF slaughtered in Gaza in one night!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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muganda wrote:poundfoolish wrote:How many times have we heard Baby Satrin and all the others who died in Westgate were bound to die because they are Kuffars and as long as you are not fighting Jihad or Moslem you are enemy?
This two religions meet at some point.. 'an eye for an eye' and 'if you play dirty we play dirty'.. kwisha!
Then the wars began...In 1947 the UN General Assembly approved for the partition of Palestine with 33 votes in favour versus 13 against (all 10 Arab states). Arab States vowed... "We will sweep them [the Jews] into the sea. We shall eradicate Zionism"• So Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq invaded Israel on 15-May-1948 • Next round, Egypt triggered the Suez Crisis against Israel on 29-Oct-1956 • Egypt, Jorday, Syria, Iraq led the Six Day war of 05-Jun-1967 with a truly embarrasing outcome • Aggrieved Egypt, Syria crossed the Suez canal for the Yom Kippur war from 6-Oct-1973 almost provoking a World War leading to Camp David Accords • Palestinians began the First Intifada in Dec 1987, Second Intifada in Sep 2000 etc etc. In short @poundfoolish, Arabs have frequently been the aggressors. Israel learnt to defend itself with deadly force. There are no saints in the equation. poundfoolish wrote:FRM2011 wrote:In Gaza, Israel's right to defend herself seems to be crossing the line into war crimes territory. But the countries who matter in the arab world wont raise a finger i.e. Saudi arabia, Egypt et.al. I have been a great admirer of Israel but the death of 7 Palestine kids has left a bad taste in my mouth.
Since when did justice stop being a black and white affair ? Why so many gray areas ? Why is the world so f#*+g messed up ? On that 'little matter' of lines... they were crossed when the Jihadists declared war on anybody (children included) anywhere (even at the North pole) who is Kuffar (Including your investments). Sadly Israel understands its old enemy well. both factions believe in an eye for an eye. 3 Israeli kids were kidnapped and killed.... What people are being told, or what you see on TV, the CNN, the Aljazeera, the BBC etc is very different from the reality. You will be told so and so kidnapped Israeli child and killed them. That might not be true, it might just be a lie to justify what they want to achieve, and you know what they want to achieve: INVASIONAnd many say oh these religions allow eye for an eye... Are you saying when it comes to Jews there is civilized way to fight? Are you saying it is justifiable for Jews to kill thousands of civilians and dismiss this as collateral damage? Nobody has the right to kill civilians, even if an enemy kill our civilians, we don't have the right to do the same. In Islam, Allah permits retaliation only against the guilty party, not against innocent. So my friend, this is not about religion. This is political moves.
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The latest death toll according to the Gaza Health Ministry is 701 Palestinians dead, 4550 injured at 0500 GMT.
At what number of dead and injured will Hamas agree to a ceasefire??
I guess 900 may be their "Ole Dengu"'s red line . So we still have a few more tunneled or apartment mounted rockets from residential areas to go..
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@Alpha amazes me! Too much emotions but little material facts to match! Always ignoring data from the opposite side. Only Palestinians/Arabs have all the truth and rights while everybody else is a consumer of western propaganda! Amazing! Which media outlets churn out better news for starters, so we may shift there! Who is the aggressor in the current hostilities. Who is applying what kind of tactics. As for me, I f were in Israel shoes I would not spare any effort in dealing with the aggressors whose unreasonable nature is well known in the world. In their book, Israel ought not to exist! In fact in the PLO charter they unashamedly asserted that Israel was due to be destroyed! They then went ahead to implement the destroying but they were repulsed and humbled. Who doubts that if the Arabs had a way they would destroy Israel even today! So for Israel how else do you deal with nut cases who want you obliterated, and are incessantly launching attacks, and improvising ways and means to that end. Dunia ni msongamano..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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B.Timer wrote:
@Alpha amazes me! Too much emotions but little material facts to match!
Always ignoring data from the opposite side. Only Palestinians/Arabs have all the truth and rights while everybody else is a consumer of western propaganda!
Amazing!
Which media outlets churn out better news for starters, so we may shift there!
Who is the aggressor in the current hostilities. Who is applying what kind of tactics.
As for me, I f were in Israel shoes I would not spare any effort in dealing with the aggressors whose unreasonable nature is well known in the world.
In their book, Israel ought not to exist! In fact in the PLO charter they unashamedly asserted that Israel was due to be destroyed!
They then went ahead to implement the destroying but they were repulsed and humbled. Who doubts that if the Arabs had a way they would destroy Israel even today!
So for Israel how else do you deal with nut cases who want you obliterated, and are incessantly launching attacks, and improvising ways and means to that end.
I don't always trust @alpha's views, but trusting a single media entity is foolhardy to say the least - you have access to the Internet and thus you have the opportunity to get information from all sides and make your conclusion, just to get you going anza na cnn, bbc and i24 news on one extreme and then switch to alteejah, aljazeera and bahrain news - if you want to get a sense of the balanced reporting jaribu french24 news or cctv news. lakini you have a myriad of sources on-line, you would do yourself some good also getting to know the history of the region, and if you could go through the last ceasefire agreement between the sides, i think back in 2011/2012 you can make a better judgment on who is the aggressor.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 2,040 Location: GA
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ecstacy wrote:The latest death toll according to the Gaza Health Ministry is 701 Palestinians dead, 4550 injured at 0500 GMT.
At what number of dead and injured will Hamas agree to a ceasefire??
I guess 900 may be their "Ole Dengu"'s red line . So we still have a few more tunneled or apartment mounted rockets from residential areas to go.. Hamas should aim all their rockets at ben gurion airport the israelis may just blink first if another ban is imposed The country already feels under siege," Danin told The Wire. "Now with this new dimension added, people can't get out or in
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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madollar wrote:ecstacy wrote:The latest death toll according to the Gaza Health Ministry is 701 Palestinians dead, 4550 injured at 0500 GMT.
At what number of dead and injured will Hamas agree to a ceasefire??
I guess 900 may be their "Ole Dengu"'s red line . So we still have a few more tunneled or apartment mounted rockets from residential areas to go.. Hamas should aim all their rockets at ben gurion airport the israelis may just blink first if another ban is imposed on that airport now that would be touching a raw nerve - but definitely a game changer, since hamas would be reciprocating the blockade by the israelis by blockading their air space, shida ni hamas do not have much control over the launchers, most likely they just direct it out of the holes they are hidden in, set the timer and they disappear. but the way the west is pushing putting into a corner, if they render his gas useless then he might just start selling those hi-tech missiles to all and sundry.
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Israelis do not know how to blink; maybe they will literally flatten Gaza as a consequence.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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nakujua wrote:B.Timer wrote:
@Alpha amazes me! Too much emotions but little material facts to match!
Always ignoring data from the opposite side. Only Palestinians/Arabs have all the truth and rights while everybody else is a consumer of western propaganda!
Amazing!
Which media outlets churn out better news for starters, so we may shift there!
Who is the aggressor in the current hostilities. Who is applying what kind of tactics.
As for me, I f were in Israel shoes I would not spare any effort in dealing with the aggressors whose unreasonable nature is well known in the world.
In their book, Israel ought not to exist! In fact in the PLO charter they unashamedly asserted that Israel was due to be destroyed!
They then went ahead to implement the destroying but they were repulsed and humbled. Who doubts that if the Arabs had a way they would destroy Israel even today!
So for Israel how else do you deal with nut cases who want you obliterated, and are incessantly launching attacks, and improvising ways and means to that end.
I don't always trust @alpha's views, but trusting a single media entity is foolhardy to say the least - you have access to the Internet and thus you have the opportunity to get information from all sides and make your conclusion, just to get you going anza na cnn, bbc and i24 news on one extreme and then switch to alteejah, aljazeera and bahrain news - if you want to get a sense of the balanced reporting jaribu french24 news or cctv news. lakini you have a myriad of sources on-line, you would do yourself some good also getting to know the history of the region, and if you could go through the last ceasefire agreement between the sides, i think back in 2011/2012 you can make a better judgment on who is the aggressor. @nakujua has put it right. You see if @b.timer had bothered to read history, he would have a more sober view. There was no Israel state, until one day people sat down and proposed that the Jewish issue could be solved by resettling Jews in Madagascar or elsewhere in Africa or South America. But after discussing the pros and cons, they asserted that establishing a Jewish homeland in British Palestine is the best. And Bingo! They settled these people in a land belonging to some other people. Then they proceeded to fund an darmed these visitors to attack and kill and displace the Palestinians. @b.timer please watch the below:
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AlphDoti wrote:nakujua wrote:B.Timer wrote:
@Alpha amazes me! Too much emotions but little material facts to match!
Always ignoring data from the opposite side. Only Palestinians/Arabs have all the truth and rights while everybody else is a consumer of western propaganda!
Amazing!
Which media outlets churn out better news for starters, so we may shift there!
Who is the aggressor in the current hostilities. Who is applying what kind of tactics.
As for me, I f were in Israel shoes I would not spare any effort in dealing with the aggressors whose unreasonable nature is well known in the world.
In their book, Israel ought not to exist! In fact in the PLO charter they unashamedly asserted that Israel was due to be destroyed!
They then went ahead to implement the destroying but they were repulsed and humbled. Who doubts that if the Arabs had a way they would destroy Israel even today!
So for Israel how else do you deal with nut cases who want you obliterated, and are incessantly launching attacks, and improvising ways and means to that end.
I don't always trust @alpha's views, but trusting a single media entity is foolhardy to say the least - you have access to the Internet and thus you have the opportunity to get information from all sides and make your conclusion, just to get you going anza na cnn, bbc and i24 news on one extreme and then switch to alteejah, aljazeera and bahrain news - if you want to get a sense of the balanced reporting jaribu french24 news or cctv news. lakini you have a myriad of sources on-line, you would do yourself some good also getting to know the history of the region, and if you could go through the last ceasefire agreement between the sides, i think back in 2011/2012 you can make a better judgment on who is the aggressor. @nakujua has put it right. You see if @b.timer had bothered to read history, he would have a more sober view. There was no Israel state, until one day people sat down and proposed that the Jewish issue could be solved by resettling Jews in Madagascar or elsewhere in Africa or South America. But after discussing the pros and cons, they asserted that establishing a Jewish homeland in British Palestine is the best. And Bingo! They settled these people in a land belonging to some other people. Then they proceeded to fund an darmed these visitors to attack and kill and displace the Palestinians. @b.timer please watch the below: @AlphDoti, The video explains why the war will never end- propaganda on both sides justifying their hardline stand. The video is purely a Palestinian version and i am sure there is an Israeli version. At least in Palestine, the Jihadists have met their match- an eye for an eye. All the Mujahedeens should move there and leave the rest of the world in peace. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Gathige wrote:AlphDoti wrote:nakujua wrote:B.Timer wrote:
@Alpha amazes me! Too much emotions but little material facts to match!
Always ignoring data from the opposite side. Only Palestinians/Arabs have all the truth and rights while everybody else is a consumer of western propaganda!
Amazing!
Which media outlets churn out better news for starters, so we may shift there!
Who is the aggressor in the current hostilities. Who is applying what kind of tactics.
As for me, I f were in Israel shoes I would not spare any effort in dealing with the aggressors whose unreasonable nature is well known in the world.
In their book, Israel ought not to exist! In fact in the PLO charter they unashamedly asserted that Israel was due to be destroyed!
They then went ahead to implement the destroying but they were repulsed and humbled. Who doubts that if the Arabs had a way they would destroy Israel even today!
So for Israel how else do you deal with nut cases who want you obliterated, and are incessantly launching attacks, and improvising ways and means to that end.
I don't always trust @alpha's views, but trusting a single media entity is foolhardy to say the least - you have access to the Internet and thus you have the opportunity to get information from all sides and make your conclusion, just to get you going anza na cnn, bbc and i24 news on one extreme and then switch to alteejah, aljazeera and bahrain news - if you want to get a sense of the balanced reporting jaribu french24 news or cctv news. lakini you have a myriad of sources on-line, you would do yourself some good also getting to know the history of the region, and if you could go through the last ceasefire agreement between the sides, i think back in 2011/2012 you can make a better judgment on who is the aggressor. @nakujua has put it right. You see if @b.timer had bothered to read history, he would have a more sober view. There was no Israel state, until one day people sat down and proposed that the Jewish issue could be solved by resettling Jews in Madagascar or elsewhere in Africa or South America. But after discussing the pros and cons, they asserted that establishing a Jewish homeland in British Palestine is the best. And Bingo! They settled these people in a land belonging to some other people. Then they proceeded to fund an darmed these visitors to attack and kill and displace the Palestinians. @b.timer please watch the below: @AlphDoti, The video explains why the war will never end- propaganda on both sides justifying their hardline stand. The video is purely a Palestinian version and i am sure there is an Israeli version. At least in Palestine, the Jihadists have met their match- an eye for an eye. All the Mujahedeens should move there and leave the rest of the world in peace. @gathige everything else is Israeli version, you didn't know? CNN, BBC, Time, Al-Jazeera name them, all are theirs. Now, listen to them below telling you that even you are not human, unless you are a Jew. Search for documentary of Khazarian and you'll see below in one of them 
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