Do you really think the Mbuta of Mau Forest should be compensated? Why should the government part with 330M to give an individual while this person did not buy that land in the first place. Cant these money be used to buy land for the IDPs instead.

Its simple: check Mark 4.25

@much know: In somalia... not even NE Province...

Chameleon politics...RAO is now disappointing...How the haguecan he support the payment of these daylight thugs .....

I come to your house and make off with your cherished 42" Plasma, then go to rivarori and get a 'legit' receipt. Then I go buy a converter box for the telly and add a home theatre so that not only do I have good high-definition sound but i also can view digital tv and even DsTv through my decoder - does that now make me a legal owner of the plasma? If the theft is discovered 2 YEARS LATER, can I then demand compensation for the 2 yr old plasma, home theatre and the DsTv decoder dish at CURRENT MARKET PRICE?
A resounding No, because the tv was fraudulently acquired rendering the legality of the receipt null and void. In fact trying to get compensation at market rates is attempted fraud, attempting to acquire public money by false pretences by purporting the property was originally yours.

The plasma tv is the mau land, the converter,home theatre and decoder are the developments thereon. Owners cannot be compensated at all before FIRST answering to charges of grand larceny of public resources,attempted fraud and abuse of office.
A good, clever and AG would get a conviction on current laws - unfortunately we don't have such an AG because he's the one who legitimized the titles in the first place.

@Nothingstop

So whose position btwn Uhurus and Railas do you support.
Uhuru says not paying.
Raila says pay up!
Cant have your cake and eat it.

Mr. Ibrahim Mwathane, on his article on page 13 of Nation on 24th December 2009, brings out another angle to this scenario altogether.

Can Mutukufu Rais make an Executive Order repossessing Mau like he did Kenyatta International Conference Center from Kenya African National Union?

@VVS,
The issue here is not who is supporting what.It is morally wrong to compensate this Mbutas.As Ma-he-goat is won't to say,pay them in 3020 or ask Baba Simama (I always thought the boy was not standing... )to make an executive order.

Kadonye thats a lie. KICC (as aemathenge illustrated) is worth more than the 2billion being talked about here. The same Mbuta were kicked out by the government and run to court, but what has happened so far? Kick them out and start reforesting, let the mbuta waste time in court as the trees grow. By the time they are being heard some of us omena may have become mbuta and will place new roadblocks.

@sparkly... I stand to be corrected but Mau was initially gazetted land that had to be de-gazetted as a forest land before title deeds were issued. Part of the land was actually meant for the Ogiek jamaaz before it was stolen frm them. Too many legal requirements had to be followed to allow degazettement of the forest from a protectd land gazetted as a forest, change of user, to finally title deeds to be issued in favour of Moi and the creme de creme of his govt.of the time. Wako was not aware/ facilitating all this time as the govt legal adviser when Mau land was being dished out like confetti to a good chunk of the entire govt?
Even the then Commish of Lands (that Gachanja fellow?)and the MP for Lands must answer qstns of abuse of office for allowing that to happen under their watch. 'Following orders from above' is no longer an excuse since the Nuremberg Trials if the law is unjust and you have a personal responsibility as well for your actions even if following orders.

@kadonye - can't pay, won't pay, shouldn't pay. Yes, the sanctity of a title deed is final and should be legally unassailable but this applies only to a title deed that has been legally acquired in a transparent and legal manner and the owner therefore has inherited a good and clear title to the document. Not same for the Mau ones.