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13 Israeli IDF slaughtered in Gaza in one night!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AlphDoti
#31 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 4:36:17 PM
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@Jump-steady I'm not trying to belittle anything between these two waring people; Palestine and Israel.

But we need to be fair. I have condemned these kinds of acts before. I condemned all the people killed in Iraq, the thousand people killed in Palestine, the people being killed in Likoni etc etc

You know what they were doing a while back? They are sending missiles, they are sending bombs. And the Palestinians are throwing stones, and they call them terrorists.
ecstacy
#32 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 4:47:43 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
@Jump-steady I'm not trying to belittle anything between these two waring people; Palestine and Israel.

But we need to be fair. I have condemned these kinds of acts before. I condemned all the people killed in Iraq, the thousand people killed in Palestine, the people being killed in Likoni etc etc

You know what they were doing a while back? They are sending missiles, they are sending bombs. And the Palestinians are throwing stones, and they call them terrorists.


That pic is sad. Beyond that, was the August 1998 US bombing in Nairobi done by Jihadists carried out using 'stones'? You forget Palestinian sympathisers have been more than willing to slaughter Kenyans in order to "free Palestine". Excuse my "bias" in some ways.
AlphDoti
#33 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 4:56:41 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
@Jump-steady I'm not trying to belittle anything between these two waring people; Palestine and Israel.

But we need to be fair. I have condemned these kinds of acts before. I condemned all the people killed in Iraq, the thousand people killed in Palestine, the people being killed in Likoni etc etc

You know what they were doing a while back? They are sending missiles, they are sending bombs. And the Palestinians are throwing stones, and they call them terrorists.

That pic is sad. Beyond that, was the August 1998 US bombing in Nairobi done by Jihadists carried out using 'stones'? You forget Palestinian sympathisers have been more than willing to slaughter Kenyans in order to "free Palestine". Excuse my "bias" in some ways.

@ecstacy if you want to know my stand on terrorism, you simply do a search and you'll find almost a response every month from myself. What we are talking about right now is an invasion of a country while the media is silent.

nakujua
#34 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 4:59:47 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
@Jump-steady I'm not trying to belittle anything between these two waring people; Palestine and Israel.

But we need to be fair. I have condemned these kinds of acts before. I condemned all the people killed in Iraq, the thousand people killed in Palestine, the people being killed in Likoni etc etc

You know what they were doing a while back? They are sending missiles, they are sending bombs. And the Palestinians are throwing stones, and they call them terrorists.


That pic is sad. Beyond that, was the August 1998 US bombing in Nairobi done by Jihadists carried out using 'stones'? You forget Palestinian sympathisers have been more than willing to slaughter Kenyans in order to "free Palestine". Excuse my "bias" in some ways.

you can't compare the american acquired military power of the israelis to the syrian/iranian acquired dumb rockets fired from gaza. Its like the cops quelling a stone throwing riot by the not so liked university students by using bullet loaded automatic rifles.
A rock might twanga a cop between the eyes david/goliath style, lakini for most part, the cops can evade the stones 'kati' style.
ecstacy
#35 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 5:01:55 PM
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War is ugly. This video from Shajiya, the hotbed of Palestine resistance, has a volunteer dressed in Hamas colors being shot even when injured - example of the reason why both sides should accept an immediate ceasefire. Senseless loss of life.
nakujua
#36 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 5:04:35 PM
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Impunity wrote:
nakujua wrote:
Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Dr. Dre wrote:
And Hamas announced yesterday that they've captured an Israeli soldier. They might demand the release of hostages in order to set him free...or worst still, torture him to death on camera.

Whatever it is, why is the whole world cheering on one country invading another, and goes ahead and wipe the people out, cutting off food and aid from the civilian!

How can sane people here cheer on an invasion planned with the term "A LAND WITHOUT PEOPLE FOR A PEOPLE WITHOUT LAND".

See what has happened since 1946.



Just thinking aloud,why cant Israel consider taking the large tracks of land huko ukingo wa Mashariki wa mto Jordan?
There is a mammoth chunk of land in a desert coutry called Jordan.
d'oh!

the land they want is the land given to them by God, the conflict will never come to an end unless all that ka green turns to white, then the jews can sit back.


Do they have a map that they were given by God?
What is their reference map?

I beleive kuna some maps or land outlines out there to back up their claims, and considering the west identifies more with them then that is tolerated more than the palestinian claims.
ecstacy
#37 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 5:04:39 PM
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nakujua wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
@Jump-steady I'm not trying to belittle anything between these two waring people; Palestine and Israel.

But we need to be fair. I have condemned these kinds of acts before. I condemned all the people killed in Iraq, the thousand people killed in Palestine, the people being killed in Likoni etc etc

You know what they were doing a while back? They are sending missiles, they are sending bombs. And the Palestinians are throwing stones, and they call them terrorists.


That pic is sad. Beyond that, was the August 1998 US bombing in Nairobi done by Jihadists carried out using 'stones'? You forget Palestinian sympathisers have been more than willing to slaughter Kenyans in order to "free Palestine". Excuse my "bias" in some ways.

you can't compare the american acquired military power of the israelis to the syrian/iranian acquired dumb rockets fired from gaza. Its like the cops quelling a stone throwing riot by the not so liked university students by using bullet loaded automatic rifles.
A rock might twanga a cop between the eyes david/goliath style, lakini for most part, the cops can evade the stones 'kati' style.


If Israel had not built the Iron Dome defense system using borrowed funds from the US, the loss of Israeli lives by now would be high. Hundreds of rockets have been fired indiscriminately into Israeli residential areas..and yes they do kill! A Palestine drone was shot down flying over Israel. I don't know why people here imagine urban warfare on Gaza soil with a card like human shields is childs play.
nakujua
#38 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 5:33:57 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
nakujua wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
@Jump-steady I'm not trying to belittle anything between these two waring people; Palestine and Israel.

But we need to be fair. I have condemned these kinds of acts before. I condemned all the people killed in Iraq, the thousand people killed in Palestine, the people being killed in Likoni etc etc

You know what they were doing a while back? They are sending missiles, they are sending bombs. And the Palestinians are throwing stones, and they call them terrorists.


That pic is sad. Beyond that, was the August 1998 US bombing in Nairobi done by Jihadists carried out using 'stones'? You forget Palestinian sympathisers have been more than willing to slaughter Kenyans in order to "free Palestine". Excuse my "bias" in some ways.

you can't compare the american acquired military power of the israelis to the syrian/iranian acquired dumb rockets fired from gaza. Its like the cops quelling a stone throwing riot by the not so liked university students by using bullet loaded automatic rifles.
A rock might twanga a cop between the eyes david/goliath style, lakini for most part, the cops can evade the stones 'kati' style.


If Israel had not built the Iron Dome defense system using borrowed funds from the US, the loss of Israeli lives by now would be high. Hundreds of rockets have been fired indiscriminately into Israeli residential areas..and yes they do kill! A Palestine drone was shot down flying over Israel. I don't know why people here imagine urban warfare on Gaza soil with a card like human shields is childs play.

the israelis can handle the rockets and drones, plus the numerous bomb shelters, just like the cops can handle the rocks thrown at them with the protective gear- no need for the apache helicopters and the heavy shelling into a densely populated area.
when your kid throws tantrums and throws stuff aimlessly around - you do not run into the kitchen grab a knife and pass by the store grab a panga and an axe and come slash and grind the kids head.
mkenyan
#39 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 5:55:25 PM
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quicksand wrote:
Impunity wrote:
mkenyan wrote:
Impunity wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Impunity wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
guru267 wrote:
FREE GAZA!!


Hamas is not as innocent as the Muslim world would like us to think.

They are also responsible for the deaths as they ordered civilians not to leave the combat zone as warned by Israel in leaflets, text & phone messages halafu crying victims as one fires anti-tank and missiles from residential areas. Guys had 3 days to evac wakakataa. Ceasefire brokered by Egypt, still wakakataa.

Scenes of celebration last evening in Gaza and the Westbank on news that an IDF soldier has been taken hostage by Hamas doesn't help either.

18 Palestinian commandos just killed trying to tunnel into Israel.

Blowback incoming. Very heavy shelling reported today.

Civilian areas turned into war theatre.


Yaani these guys are tunneling like rats in order to hit Israel?

The death of those 13 IDF soldiers will be met wit the heaviest shelling in history, just wait and see.
While the world attention is sunk in Ukraine/Malaysian/Putin Israel will unleash even a miniature Nyuklea bomb!


The whole objective of this Israeli ground offensive is to destroy the tunnel network being used to launch missiles, store the self-manufactured missiles (estimates at 10,000 rockets), hide the Hamas leadership and launch kill and kidnap attacks into Israel.

Half of the rockets launched into Israel so far (500) were coming from this Shujaiyah neighborhood that has the highest civilian casualties as well as IDF fatalities.

It is the Fallujah of Palestine.

2 Israeli's were killed last week from tunnels dug into Isreali territory. Tunnel was also used to kidnap the last Israeli soldier who was later exchanged for tens of Palestinian captives in Israeli custody. 14 tunnels destroyed so far. The price in blood for both sides is high.


How do destroy a tunnel 100 metres deep?
Nuke it may be the best option!

and that is the first solution a whole engineer fast class can think of? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Umenitafuta kweli kweli wewe mkulima wa nguruwe tasa!
The absolute way to destroy those deep bunkers from the air is only to nuke them, otherwise you will have to walk and plan explosives right inside the bunkers/tunnels....

Egyptians have decided to flood them with sewage in order to stop there usage on the border with gaza.

There are conventional bombs that can penetrate tunnels or bunks. Bunker busting bombs they are called. The problem is in knowing where the tunnels are:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunker_buster


well, the engineer says that only a nuke can sort this one out (regardless of whether you know where the tunnels are and lets forget the nuclear fallout). why? because nuclear. no wonder our kenyan buildings don't collapse and mutua can do roads in 3 months.
Impunity
#40 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2014 6:12:42 PM
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mkenyan wrote:
quicksand wrote:
Impunity wrote:
mkenyan wrote:
Impunity wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Impunity wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
guru267 wrote:
FREE GAZA!!


Hamas is not as innocent as the Muslim world would like us to think.

They are also responsible for the deaths as they ordered civilians not to leave the combat zone as warned by Israel in leaflets, text & phone messages halafu crying victims as one fires anti-tank and missiles from residential areas. Guys had 3 days to evac wakakataa. Ceasefire brokered by Egypt, still wakakataa.

Scenes of celebration last evening in Gaza and the Westbank on news that an IDF soldier has been taken hostage by Hamas doesn't help either.

18 Palestinian commandos just killed trying to tunnel into Israel.

Blowback incoming. Very heavy shelling reported today.

Civilian areas turned into war theatre.


Yaani these guys are tunneling like rats in order to hit Israel?

The death of those 13 IDF soldiers will be met wit the heaviest shelling in history, just wait and see.
While the world attention is sunk in Ukraine/Malaysian/Putin Israel will unleash even a miniature Nyuklea bomb!


The whole objective of this Israeli ground offensive is to destroy the tunnel network being used to launch missiles, store the self-manufactured missiles (estimates at 10,000 rockets), hide the Hamas leadership and launch kill and kidnap attacks into Israel.

Half of the rockets launched into Israel so far (500) were coming from this Shujaiyah neighborhood that has the highest civilian casualties as well as IDF fatalities.

It is the Fallujah of Palestine.

2 Israeli's were killed last week from tunnels dug into Isreali territory. Tunnel was also used to kidnap the last Israeli soldier who was later exchanged for tens of Palestinian captives in Israeli custody. 14 tunnels destroyed so far. The price in blood for both sides is high.


How do destroy a tunnel 100 metres deep?
Nuke it may be the best option!

and that is the first solution a whole engineer fast class can think of? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Umenitafuta kweli kweli wewe mkulima wa nguruwe tasa!
The absolute way to destroy those deep bunkers from the air is only to nuke them, otherwise you will have to walk and plan explosives right inside the bunkers/tunnels....

Egyptians have decided to flood them with sewage in order to stop there usage on the border with gaza.

There are conventional bombs that can penetrate tunnels or bunks. Bunker busting bombs they are called. The problem is in knowing where the tunnels are:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunker_buster


well, the engineer says that only a nuke can sort this one out (regardless of whether you know where the tunnels are and lets forget the nuclear fallout). why? because nuclear. no wonder our kenyan buildings don't collapse and mutua can do roads in 3 months.


I know you dont know that its a Nuke bomb that stopped WWII...I say just Nuke half of Gaza and the world will be peaceful.
Japanese are the best friends to American but only after they were nuked.
Go sell quail eggs in traffic and leave this discussion to engineers!

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