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AlphDoti wrote: I have not been following the developments keenly and have little knowledge to comment much. You have not been following the progress of the caliphate? Where are your interests? Are they not in the caliphate?
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Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote: I have not been following the developments keenly and have little knowledge to comment much. You have not been following the progress of the caliphate? Where are your interests? Are they not in the caliphate?  very convinient
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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AlphDoti wrote:ecstacy wrote:This is the recently IS produced "This is life in the Islamic state" video. Professional quality stuff. Life is soo good under the IS, they exhibit religious tolerance by blowing up holy Shia sites and mosques.. In summary ... B. Destroying some items, idolised places, graveyards for worship etc. Some people do some kind of Shirk at graves, and they have turned the graves of saints into places of worship. They construct things around the graves, then visit these graves and tombs indulge in many forms of polytheism The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said: "Spells, amulets and love-charms are (forms of) shirk." Scholars unanimously maintain that it is haram (unlawful) to wear amulets. The prophet said: "Whoever wears an amulet, may Allaah not fulfil his need, and whoever wears a sea-shell, may Allaah not give him peace." Definition:1. Amulets are things made from pearls or bones and worn on the necks of children or adults or hung up in houses or cars, in order to ward off evil – especially the evil eye – or to bring some benefits. 2. Shirk (Arabic word) refers to the sin of practicing idolatry or polytheism. IMPORTANT:My reply does not mean I support what is happening right now with ISIS and the like. I have not been following the developments keenly and have little knowledge to comment much. Using your logic, if Christians find Hindus engaging in "Idolatry" when worshiping their multiple gods, why should your Islam be a special case, kwanza the way they have 'misrepresented' the Christian Bible? You rationalizing religious intolerance and forget the same can be applied to you in triple measure, it's just that we prefer to live as fellow children of God who share a home, the earth. We have gone ahead to pass a constitution, just like the Iraqi's, to say our state is secular, so as to allow Alphadoti worship his Allah in peace too. Why does Islam think it has a monopoly of violence??
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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ecstacy wrote:AlphDoti wrote:ecstacy wrote:This is the recently IS produced "This is life in the Islamic state" video. Professional quality stuff. Life is soo good under the IS, they exhibit religious tolerance by blowing up holy Shia sites and mosques.. In summary ... B. Destroying some items, idolised places, graveyards for worship etc. Some people do some kind of Shirk at graves, and they have turned the graves of saints into places of worship. They construct things around the graves, then visit these graves and tombs indulge in many forms of polytheism The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said: "Spells, amulets and love-charms are (forms of) shirk." Scholars unanimously maintain that it is haram (unlawful) to wear amulets. The prophet said: "Whoever wears an amulet, may Allaah not fulfil his need, and whoever wears a sea-shell, may Allaah not give him peace." Definition:1. Amulets are things made from pearls or bones and worn on the necks of children or adults or hung up in houses or cars, in order to ward off evil – especially the evil eye – or to bring some benefits. 2. Shirk (Arabic word) refers to the sin of practicing idolatry or polytheism. IMPORTANT:My reply does not mean I support what is happening right now with ISIS and the like. I have not been following the developments keenly and have little knowledge to comment much. Using your logic, if Christians find Hindus engaging in "Idolatry" when worshiping their multiple gods, why should your Islam be a special case, kwanza the way they have 'misrepresented' the Christian Bible? You rationalizing religious intolerance and forget the same can be applied to you in triple measure, it's just that we prefer to live as fellow children of God who share a home, the earth. We have gone ahead to pass a constitution, just like the Iraqi's, to say our state is secular, so as to allow Alphadoti worship his Allah in peace too. Why does Islam think it has a monopoly of violence?? @ecstacy as it suits you my brother. I was just highlighting what is in the picture. The constitution you are trying to think it's yours is also for the Muslims. If a Muslim commits a crime, he won't be taken to Sharia court, but to criminal court. If a Christian commits a crime, he will be taken to same criminal court... But when a Muslim marries another Muslim, they'll be married under Sharia law, and that's non of your business. No need for you to have headache about Constitution, because it is not your exclusive right to put anything there. All Kenyans are part of it. And besides, sharia law was already recognized in our constitution, even before you were born. And also before the constitution in 1963, there was Sharia law in Kenya. So don't foaming in the mouth, and have sleepless nights and hate over something which does not affect you at all. First check it out and let me know if you find anything illegal about Sharia Law on marriage, divorce and inheritance. If you want to debate any comparison start a thread. But let this thread discuss ISIS.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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AlphDoti wrote:ecstacy wrote:AlphDoti wrote:ecstacy wrote:This is the recently IS produced "This is life in the Islamic state" video. Professional quality stuff. Life is soo good under the IS, they exhibit religious tolerance by blowing up holy Shia sites and mosques.. In summary ... B. Destroying some items, idolised places, graveyards for worship etc. Some people do some kind of Shirk at graves, and they have turned the graves of saints into places of worship. They construct things around the graves, then visit these graves and tombs indulge in many forms of polytheism The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said: "Spells, amulets and love-charms are (forms of) shirk." Scholars unanimously maintain that it is haram (unlawful) to wear amulets. The prophet said: "Whoever wears an amulet, may Allaah not fulfil his need, and whoever wears a sea-shell, may Allaah not give him peace." Definition:1. Amulets are things made from pearls or bones and worn on the necks of children or adults or hung up in houses or cars, in order to ward off evil – especially the evil eye – or to bring some benefits. 2. Shirk (Arabic word) refers to the sin of practicing idolatry or polytheism. IMPORTANT:My reply does not mean I support what is happening right now with ISIS and the like. I have not been following the developments keenly and have little knowledge to comment much. Using your logic, if Christians find Hindus engaging in "Idolatry" when worshiping their multiple gods, why should your Islam be a special case, kwanza the way they have 'misrepresented' the Christian Bible? You rationalizing religious intolerance and forget the same can be applied to you in triple measure, it's just that we prefer to live as fellow children of God who share a home, the earth. We have gone ahead to pass a constitution, just like the Iraqi's, to say our state is secular, so as to allow Alphadoti worship his Allah in peace too. Why does Islam think it has a monopoly of violence?? ... The constitution you are trying to think it's yours is also for the Muslims. If a Muslim commits a crime, he won't be taken to Sharia court, but to criminal court. If a Christian commits a crime, he will be taken to same criminal court... But when a Muslim marries another Muslim, they'll be married under Sharia law, and that's non of your business. ..But let this thread discuss ISIS. Not so fast mister.. ISIS is trying to set up an Islamic State governed under Sharia law. Do you agree with their (ISIS/IS) interpretation of Sharia Law? a simple Yes or No please.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2011 Posts: 627 Location: Mbui-Nzau, Kikumbulyu
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All this to punish China?? Watch a region go from midro class to stone age ....see whats happened to Libya.. they are scrambling for the airport as of now..sad
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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ecstacy wrote:AlphDoti wrote:ecstacy wrote:AlphDoti wrote:ecstacy wrote:This is the recently IS produced "This is life in the Islamic state" video. Professional quality stuff. Life is soo good under the IS, they exhibit religious tolerance by blowing up holy Shia sites and mosques.. In summary ... B. Destroying some items, idolised places, graveyards for worship etc. Some people do some kind of Shirk at graves, and they have turned the graves of saints into places of worship. They construct things around the graves, then visit these graves and tombs indulge in many forms of polytheism The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said: "Spells, amulets and love-charms are (forms of) shirk." Scholars unanimously maintain that it is haram (unlawful) to wear amulets. The prophet said: "Whoever wears an amulet, may Allaah not fulfil his need, and whoever wears a sea-shell, may Allaah not give him peace." Definition:1. Amulets are things made from pearls or bones and worn on the necks of children or adults or hung up in houses or cars, in order to ward off evil – especially the evil eye – or to bring some benefits. 2. Shirk (Arabic word) refers to the sin of practicing idolatry or polytheism. IMPORTANT:My reply does not mean I support what is happening right now with ISIS and the like. I have not been following the developments keenly and have little knowledge to comment much. Using your logic, if Christians find Hindus engaging in "Idolatry" when worshiping their multiple gods, why should your Islam be a special case, kwanza the way they have 'misrepresented' the Christian Bible? You rationalizing religious intolerance and forget the same can be applied to you in triple measure, it's just that we prefer to live as fellow children of God who share a home, the earth. We have gone ahead to pass a constitution, just like the Iraqi's, to say our state is secular, so as to allow Alphadoti worship his Allah in peace too. Why does Islam think it has a monopoly of violence?? ... The constitution you are trying to think it's yours is also for the Muslims. If a Muslim commits a crime, he won't be taken to Sharia court, but to criminal court. If a Christian commits a crime, he will be taken to same criminal court... But when a Muslim marries another Muslim, they'll be married under Sharia law, and that's non of your business. ..But let this thread discuss ISIS. Not so fast mister.. ISIS is trying to set up an Islamic State governed under Sharia law. Do you agree with their (ISIS/IS) interpretation of Sharia Law? a simple Yes or No please. Iraqi bishops have today asked the World to act on behalf of the Christian minority. In orders contained in an IS letter after this past Friday prayers, Alphadoti & gurus friends, the Islamic State group, threatened Christians in the Iraqi city of Mosul with death if they do not convert to Islam or pay a tax. Following these orders, hundreds of Christians are fleeing Mosul today Sunday headed to Kurdish territory. In IS manned checkpoints, the IS are stealing the cars and possessions of these Christians and making them walk instead to Kurdistan. Mosul has a Christian tradition going back 2,000. So much for religious tolerance. Link on the orders - http://www.aljazeera.com...2014718111040982432.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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ecstacy wrote:ecstacy wrote:AlphDoti wrote:ecstacy wrote:AlphDoti wrote:ecstacy wrote:This is the recently IS produced "This is life in the Islamic state" video. Professional quality stuff. Life is soo good under the IS, they exhibit religious tolerance by blowing up holy Shia sites and mosques.. In summary ... B. Destroying some items, idolised places, graveyards for worship etc. Some people do some kind of Shirk at graves, and they have turned the graves of saints into places of worship. They construct things around the graves, then visit these graves and tombs indulge in many forms of polytheism The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said: "Spells, amulets and love-charms are (forms of) shirk." Scholars unanimously maintain that it is haram (unlawful) to wear amulets. The prophet said: "Whoever wears an amulet, may Allaah not fulfil his need, and whoever wears a sea-shell, may Allaah not give him peace." Definition:1. Amulets are things made from pearls or bones and worn on the necks of children or adults or hung up in houses or cars, in order to ward off evil – especially the evil eye – or to bring some benefits. 2. Shirk (Arabic word) refers to the sin of practicing idolatry or polytheism. IMPORTANT:My reply does not mean I support what is happening right now with ISIS and the like. I have not been following the developments keenly and have little knowledge to comment much. Using your logic, if Christians find Hindus engaging in "Idolatry" when worshiping their multiple gods, why should your Islam be a special case, kwanza the way they have 'misrepresented' the Christian Bible? You rationalizing religious intolerance and forget the same can be applied to you in triple measure, it's just that we prefer to live as fellow children of God who share a home, the earth. We have gone ahead to pass a constitution, just like the Iraqi's, to say our state is secular, so as to allow Alphadoti worship his Allah in peace too. Why does Islam think it has a monopoly of violence?? ... The constitution you are trying to think it's yours is also for the Muslims. If a Muslim commits a crime, he won't be taken to Sharia court, but to criminal court. If a Christian commits a crime, he will be taken to same criminal court... But when a Muslim marries another Muslim, they'll be married under Sharia law, and that's non of your business. ..But let this thread discuss ISIS. Not so fast mister.. ISIS is trying to set up an Islamic State governed under Sharia law. Do you agree with their (ISIS/IS) interpretation of Sharia Law? a simple Yes or No please. Iraqi bishops have today asked the World to act on behalf of the Christian minority. In orders contained in an IS letter after this past Friday prayers, Alphadoti & gurus friends, the Islamic State group, threatened Christians in the Iraqi city of Mosul with death if they do not convert to Islam or pay a tax. Following these orders, hundreds of Christians are fleeing Mosul today Sunday headed to Kurdish territory. In IS manned checkpoints, the IS are stealing the cars and possessions of these Christians and making them walk instead to Kurdistan. Mosul has a Christian tradition going back 2,000. So much for religious tolerance. Link on the orders - http://www.aljazeera.com...014718111040982432.html The tax is only 2.5% of savings which is very fair if you ask me and is equal to what Muslims pay in Zakat! The theory is that Kaffirs should not be exempt from helping the needy! Muhammad however said when Christ returns he will abolish this tax because he will restore peace and justice to the world Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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IS militants have seized a monastery in northern Iraq, kicking out its Christian monks as well as Christian residents of Mosul. Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL/ISIS) insurgents stormed the ancient Mar Benham monastery in the Christian town of Qaraqosh Sunday, near the northern Iraqi city of Mosul, which was overrun by ISIS on 10 June. Mar Benham is a 4th century monastery run by the Syriac Catholic church. A member of the Syriac clergy said the monks pleaded to be allowed to save some of the monastery’s relics but the ISIS fighters refused and ordered them to leave on foot with only the clothes on their back. “You have no place here anymore, you have to leave immediately,” one of the militants told the monks, according to the clergyman. The monks then walked several kilometers along a road and were eventually picked up by Kurdish Peshmerga fighters who drove them to Qaraqosh, AFP reported Monday. Link - http://rt.com/news/17448...-ransack-monastery-iraq/
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