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Ruto and verbal dayorea on school certificates
Othelo
#31 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2014 1:55:49 PM
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butterflyke wrote:
ako wapi @Othelo?

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McReggae
#32 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2014 2:18:23 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Matoe wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
washiku wrote:
Impunity wrote:
washiku wrote:
What does the law say?

KNEC Act 2012 10(1)(b)

Functions of the council shall be...

(a)....

(b) Award Certificates or Diploma to candidates in such examinations; Such certificates or diplomas shall not be held from the candidate by any person or institution.


This law is not cast in stone!


Your question was clear, "Under what law?" Now I need to check on the dunderhead part, whether he is one or not. Either he is a dunderhead, or whoever is calling him so is...Well, I dont think he got a first class, but as law is concerned, he is right. That I doubt is dunderhead.



Even when you have a land title of your own, someone else can hold it till you pay your debt to them!


@Ngalaka you will torture yourself for no good reason trying to explain some things to guys who graduated with diplomas in massaging humongous asses.

That pegged woman in Sudan was supposed to be stoned to death since she violated the local laws, but reason prevailed...#dunderheads cant see any need to reason on this @Ruto's directive. Sheria lazima ifuatwe.


If sheria lazima ifuatwe then Ruto is right in issuing the directive as Washiku has correctly quoted the relevant Act


The highlighted was a rhetoric question.



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butterflyke
#33 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2014 2:33:14 PM
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Othelo wrote:
butterflyke wrote:
ako wapi @Othelo?

smile

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Laughing out loudly

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Matoe
#34 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2014 2:51:16 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Matoe wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
washiku wrote:
Impunity wrote:
washiku wrote:
What does the law say?

KNEC Act 2012 10(1)(b)

Functions of the council shall be...

(a)....

(b) Award Certificates or Diploma to candidates in such examinations; Such certificates or diplomas shall not be held from the candidate by any person or institution.


This law is not cast in stone!


Your question was clear, "Under what law?" Now I need to check on the dunderhead part, whether he is one or not. Either he is a dunderhead, or whoever is calling him so is...Well, I dont think he got a first class, but as law is concerned, he is right. That I doubt is dunderhead.



Even when you have a land title of your own, someone else can hold it till you pay your debt to them!


@Ngalaka you will torture yourself for no good reason trying to explain some things to guys who graduated with diplomas in massaging humongous asses.

That pegged woman in Sudan was supposed to be stoned to death since she violated the local laws, but reason prevailed...#dunderheads cant see any need to reason on this @Ruto's directive. Sheria lazima ifuatwe.


If sheria lazima ifuatwe then Ruto is right in issuing the directive as Washiku has correctly quoted the relevant Act


The highlighted was a rhetoric question.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly A question indeed!!!


First Class rhetoric question Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
harrydre
#35 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2014 3:02:27 PM
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Impunity wrote:
What is the difference between Jubleee gaarmanent and the Mo1 one in terms of governance?
I think roadside declaration were stopped post 2013 and labeled as too analogue?

Now under which law did he refer to by declaring that school heads release the certs for those students with fee balances?

#dunderhead!

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


You are the dunderhead if you can't see the benefit to the student. Why didn't you complain when babu Riek declared a public holiday on the road under no law which had no absolute benefit? Double standards!!
i.am.back!!!!
Impunity
#36 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2014 3:05:43 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Matoe wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
washiku wrote:
Impunity wrote:
washiku wrote:
What does the law say?

KNEC Act 2012 10(1)(b)

Functions of the council shall be...

(a)....

(b) Award Certificates or Diploma to candidates in such examinations; Such certificates or diplomas shall not be held from the candidate by any person or institution.


This law is not cast in stone!


Your question was clear, "Under what law?" Now I need to check on the dunderhead part, whether he is one or not. Either he is a dunderhead, or whoever is calling him so is...Well, I dont think he got a first class, but as law is concerned, he is right. That I doubt is dunderhead.



Even when you have a land title of your own, someone else can hold it till you pay your debt to them!


@Ngalaka you will torture yourself for no good reason trying to explain some things to guys who graduated with diplomas in massaging humongous asses.

That pegged woman in Sudan was supposed to be stoned to death since she violated the local laws, but reason prevailed...#dunderheads cant see any need to reason on this @Ruto's directive. Sheria lazima ifuatwe.


If sheria lazima ifuatwe then Ruto is right in issuing the directive as Washiku has correctly quoted the relevant Act


The highlighted was a rhetoric question.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly A question indeed!!!


Missing this "?" only.

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Impunity
#37 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2014 3:16:29 PM
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Othelo wrote:
butterflyke wrote:
ako wapi @Othelo?

smile

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@Othes yesterday I warned you in some thread on Argentina ONLY to touch a "fish taco" with a pole vault but it seems you dint get it neither did anybody!!!
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Impunity
#38 Posted : Wednesday, July 16, 2014 3:18:31 PM
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harrydre wrote:
Impunity wrote:
What is the difference between Jubleee gaarmanent and the Mo1 one in terms of governance?
I think roadside declaration were stopped post 2013 and labeled as too analogue?

Now under which law did he refer to by declaring that school heads release the certs for those students with fee balances?

#dunderhead!

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


You are the dunderhead if you can't see the benefit to the student. Why didn't you complain when babu Riek declared a public holiday on the road under no law which had no absolute benefit? Double standards!!


@Baba is not in power and as such he can say anything he feels like.

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
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You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

butterflyke
#39 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 5:41:37 PM
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kivairu wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:

A middle ground should be found.

The Government can quietly negotiate with the Teachers to explore various options.

Issuing a fiat in the way Ruto did is not right. Consider the ramifications going forward!

Who will pay fees anymore!

Again Head Teachers may choose not to allow any students with fees balance to stay in School.

What agony to Parents and loss to Students will that be.

Ruto may then be compelled to issue yet another fiat that no students to be sent home for school fees - then some schools grind to a halt.

Zero sum game!




spoken like 5 sages!


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jmbada
#40 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2014 6:18:40 PM
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Guys. Schools don't set and examine students. It is KNEC. They pay KNEC fees prior to registering. They should be entitled to this document. Schools can still withold leaving / clearance certs. Anyone who wants to establish a student's intellectual abilities can do so. The clearance /leaving cert tells you whether or not they are able honour contracts. You see, if you have the cert, eg KCSE...you may be able to get a job that will allow you to pay off the outstanding debts to the school.
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