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McReggae wrote:What if they are following instructions, do you still go ahead to blame them? Exactly. I know who's doing it. If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; that is where they should be. Now put the foundations under them.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/30/2013 Posts: 659
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dunkang wrote:Pedes wrote:If we start asking NIS to look at sugar dumping, what next? What do we expect Kenya Sugar Board to do? KRA? KPA?. NIS should come in if these institutions have failed. Its like calling the army to do the AP's work. WEWE WACHA UWONGO. NIS is supposed to know everything and advise the GoK. EVERYTHING as in KILA KITU. They should have predicted how @pedes is going to spend his/her July 2014 salary which he/she by now! THAT IS WHY THEY ARE THE NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND NOT C.I.D, M.I etc. NIS is not about harrasing Raila rallies, or Al-Shabab grenades only. They are supposed to also guide in matters economics and advice on the appropriate strategies. If they are about knowing and advising on everything and anything, then what are the other agencies there for e.g. CBK, CID, KSB, Treasury, KRA, ama kazi yao ni kupanguza watu wa NIS jasho? If you stay ready, no need to get ready.
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Rank: User Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 3,528
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NIS know who is importing sugar illigally. Wewe jaribu na gunia kumi hivi ujionee maajabu ya kufinywa mavitu! Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,824 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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Pedes wrote:dunkang wrote:Pedes wrote:If we start asking NIS to look at sugar dumping, what next? What do we expect Kenya Sugar Board to do? KRA? KPA?. NIS should come in if these institutions have failed. Its like calling the army to do the AP's work. WEWE WACHA UWONGO. NIS is supposed to know everything and advise the GoK. EVERYTHING as in KILA KITU. They should have predicted how @pedes is going to spend his/her July 2014 salary which he/she by now! THAT IS WHY THEY ARE THE NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND NOT C.I.D, M.I etc. NIS is not about harrasing Raila rallies, or Al-Shabab grenades only. They are supposed to also guide in matters economics and advice on the appropriate strategies. If they are about knowing and advising on everything and anything, then what are the other agencies there for e.g. CBK, CID, KSB, Treasury, KRA, ama kazi yao ni kupanguza watu wa NIS jasho?  That was a good one. OK, NIS is to collect intelligence, analyse it and advise the GoK. These other "spoilt fattened kids" called CBK, KSB etc are to come up with POLICIES from the intelligence and see the policy been effected. NIS is not C.I.D. NIS cannot arrest you because they are not police. They are INTELLIGENCE harvesters and analysers. Right now they should have their people allover COMESA countries collect intelligence on this sugar thing, so as they can advice KSB and Min. of Agric. on the way forward after expiry of those COMESA whatevers. Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Our operating level as a country is lower than the ones of corporate networks. It's a structural weakness.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/30/2013 Posts: 659
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dunkang wrote:Pedes wrote:dunkang wrote:Pedes wrote:If we start asking NIS to look at sugar dumping, what next? What do we expect Kenya Sugar Board to do? KRA? KPA?. NIS should come in if these institutions have failed. Its like calling the army to do the AP's work. WEWE WACHA UWONGO. NIS is supposed to know everything and advise the GoK. EVERYTHING as in KILA KITU. They should have predicted how @pedes is going to spend his/her July 2014 salary which he/she by now! THAT IS WHY THEY ARE THE NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND NOT C.I.D, M.I etc. NIS is not about harrasing Raila rallies, or Al-Shabab grenades only. They are supposed to also guide in matters economics and advice on the appropriate strategies. If they are about knowing and advising on everything and anything, then what are the other agencies there for e.g. CBK, CID, KSB, Treasury, KRA, ama kazi yao ni kupanguza watu wa NIS jasho?  That was a good one. OK, NIS is to collect intelligence, analyse it and advise the GoK. These other "spoilt fattened kids" called CBK, KSB etc are to come up with POLICIES from the intelligence and see the policy been effected.NIS is not C.I.D. NIS cannot arrest you because they are not police. They are INTELLIGENCE harvesters and analysers. Right now they should have their people allover COMESA countries collect intelligence on this sugar thing, so as they can advice KSB and Min. of Agric. on the way forward after expiry of those COMESA whatevers. Are you sure about that?If you stay ready, no need to get ready.
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Rank: User Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 3,528
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tycho wrote:Our operating level as a country is lower than the ones of corporate networks. It's a structural weakness. Weaknesses which are intentional! Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,824 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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Pedes wrote:dunkang wrote:  That was a good one. OK, NIS is to collect intelligence, analyse it and advise the GoK. These other "spoilt fattened kids" called CBK, KSB etc are to come up with POLICIES from the intelligence and see the policy been effected.NIS is not C.I.D. NIS cannot arrest you because they are not police. They are INTELLIGENCE harvesters and analysers. Right now they should have their people allover COMESA countries collect intelligence on this sugar thing, so as they can advice KSB and Min. of Agric. on the way forward after expiry of those COMESA whatevers. Are you sure about that? That is what i think the relationship between N.I.S and the other bodies should be. You ASK yourself if all this parastatals have intelligence departments, how would it be. They can have enforcement and inspectorate departments, but not INTELLIGENCE. Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Othelo wrote:tycho wrote:Our operating level as a country is lower than the ones of corporate networks. It's a structural weakness. Weaknesses which are intentional! It's complicated. It may not be entirely intentional.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/30/2013 Posts: 659
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dunkang wrote:Pedes wrote:dunkang wrote:  That was a good one. OK, NIS is to collect intelligence, analyse it and advise the GoK. These other "spoilt fattened kids" called CBK, KSB etc are to come up with POLICIES from the intelligence and see the policy been effected.NIS is not C.I.D. NIS cannot arrest you because they are not police. They are INTELLIGENCE harvesters and analysers. Right now they should have their people allover COMESA countries collect intelligence on this sugar thing, so as they can advice KSB and Min. of Agric. on the way forward after expiry of those COMESA whatevers. Are you sure about that? That is what i think the relationship between N.I.S and the other bodies should be. You ASK yourself if all this parastatals have intelligence departments, how would it be. They can have enforcement and inspectorate departments, but not INTELLIGENCE. When data is collected/intercepted, analysed/interpreted, then, you have intelligence. Which any organization can do and use to their benefit i.e. corporate espionage. So CID should have intelligence. So, then, dumping of sugar is something KSB and CID should handle. If it was being done by foreign entities intent on sabotaging Kenya's sugar industry/ and economy by extension then, we bring in NIS. So, the question should be, is this being done to sabotage Kenya economically(I don't think so), it is just a cartel of greedy nationals who can be investigated and apprehended by Police/CID. If you stay ready, no need to get ready.
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