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It beats logic why people would keep harping on the prowess of their mujahideen when pitted against the civilsed armies! If the civilsed world were to adopt the same reckless and care for nothing tactics, nothing would be left standing in the area of operation. On the other hand the jihadist care for nothing and anything to them is fair and square, including using human shields. If only the civilised armies werent bound by laws! Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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guru267 wrote:Kratos wrote:guru267 wrote:simonkabz wrote:No one is going to leave kebabs to their devices again. The world is not short of money to fund operations in SOM to keep kebabs in check. My friend NATO has left the Taliban to their devices after too much chest thumping because they know shit is rough over there... AMISOM will soon follow suit no matter how much you hate it because Shabaab will never give up even for 200 years! The sooner they all leave, the better for this region! Your understanding of war in the middle east and asia is very limited. Religious ideologies have very little to do with whats going on there no matter your own chest thumping here. It would help if you could acquaint yourself with the real reasons countries go to war. You will be shocked to the core. I would advise you to go through a couple of documentaries such as "Zeitgeist" , "Esoteric Agenda", "loose change 911"etc. Sadly its people like you who will be used to fight the online battle in the name of your beliefs and continue to stoke the kiln. If the mighty NATO left... AMISOM will leave too! I know as Africans we are prone to having big heads and not accepting defeat but its only a matter of time... Perhaps you never read or understood my statements above coz your rejoinder is unrelated and naive at best.
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Kratos wrote:guru267 wrote:Kratos wrote:guru267 wrote:simonkabz wrote:No one is going to leave kebabs to their devices again. The world is not short of money to fund operations in SOM to keep kebabs in check. My friend NATO has left the Taliban to their devices after too much chest thumping because they know shit is rough over there... AMISOM will soon follow suit no matter how much you hate it because Shabaab will never give up even for 200 years! The sooner they all leave, the better for this region! Your understanding of war in the middle east and asia is very limited. Religious ideologies have very little to do with whats going on there no matter your own chest thumping here. It would help if you could acquaint yourself with the real reasons countries go to war. You will be shocked to the core. I would advise you to go through a couple of documentaries such as "Zeitgeist" , "Esoteric Agenda", "loose change 911"etc. Sadly its people like you who will be used to fight the online battle in the name of your beliefs and continue to stoke the kiln. If the mighty NATO left... AMISOM will leave too! I know as Africans we are prone to having big heads and not accepting defeat but its only a matter of time... Perhaps you never read or understood my statements above coz your rejoinder is unrelated and naive at best. Taliban is a rag and tag fighting for strict Sharia law and are terrorists... Al Shabaab is a rag and tag fighting for strict Sharia law and are terrorists.... NATO is leaving with tail between legs and so will AMISOM! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Nandwa wrote:
It beats logic why people would keep harping on the prowess of their mujahideen when pitted against the civilsed armies!
If the civilsed world were to adopt the same reckless and care for nothing tactics, nothing would be left standing in the area of operation.
On the other hand the jihadist care for nothing and anything to them is fair and square, including using human shields.
If only the civilised armies werent bound by laws!
When your enemy has way superior numbers and weapons than you don't just sit and wait to be annihilated... Rather win by any means possible! Rules of war are useless illusions and that's why we have Guantanamo bay! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Nandwa wrote:
It beats logic why people would keep harping on the prowess of their mujahideen when pitted against the civilsed armies!
If the civilsed world were to adopt the same reckless and care for nothing tactics, nothing would be left standing in the area of operation.
On the other hand the jihadist care for nothing and anything to them is fair and square, including using human shields.
If only the civilised armies werent bound by laws!
 i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2012 Posts: 1,461 Location: Ngong Forest
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simonkabz wrote:guru267 wrote:kyt wrote:Wainadi wrote:guru267 wrote:Wainadi wrote:These mujahideens are dying like flies in Somalia ask the widows and sonless mothers of Kwale, Majengo in Mombasa and Pumwani in Nairobi. If they dying like flies how come not a single Al Shabaab top leader is dead?? How come the whole of south Somalia is still under Shabaab 10 years after the invasion?? Those mothers and widows are the happiest women alive because of their men's martyrdom! guru uko na shida sana; so you support shabaab? Im only in full support of fact and reality! More of delusion and utopia. Why waste time, this is mama bhangi! Visit the weed forum and henceforth you will know when to disengage!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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guru267 wrote:Kratos wrote:guru267 wrote:Kratos wrote:guru267 wrote:simonkabz wrote:No one is going to leave kebabs to their devices again. The world is not short of money to fund operations in SOM to keep kebabs in check. My friend NATO has left the Taliban to their devices after too much chest thumping because they know shit is rough over there... AMISOM will soon follow suit no matter how much you hate it because Shabaab will never give up even for 200 years! The sooner they all leave, the better for this region! Your understanding of war in the middle east and asia is very limited. Religious ideologies have very little to do with whats going on there no matter your own chest thumping here. It would help if you could acquaint yourself with the real reasons countries go to war. You will be shocked to the core. I would advise you to go through a couple of documentaries such as "Zeitgeist" , "Esoteric Agenda", "loose change 911"etc. Sadly its people like you who will be used to fight the online battle in the name of your beliefs and continue to stoke the kiln. If the mighty NATO left... AMISOM will leave too! I know as Africans we are prone to having big heads and not accepting defeat but its only a matter of time... Perhaps you never read or understood my statements above coz your rejoinder is unrelated and naive at best. Taliban is a rag and tag fighting for strict Sharia law and are terrorists... Al Shabaab is a rag and tag fighting for strict Sharia law and are terrorists.... NATO is leaving with tail between legs and so will AMISOM! yes, amison will very soon leave with tail between legs, why are these people dis agreeing with you @guru - al-kebab wako juu 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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Haha I have been reading through this topic and many wazuans aren't. conversant here. @ guru Kwa hi maneno u aren't one!! what is NATO? (Google ass in Somalia). Forces in Somalia operate under AMISOM with Kenya Uganda Burundi Sierra Leone & Ethiopia as contributing forces. Further subdivided into 3 sectors; sec I Uganda Burundi sec II Kenya Sierra Leone Sec III Ethiopia. All work hand in hand with Somalia National Army (SNA) & Transitional Federal Government forces (TFG) . These countries provide personnel(troops) & equipment,AU pays allowances and reimburses equipment among other losses. AU was unable to pay & supply efficiently for logistics (mainly food& other stores except ammunition & POL) They called in UN and whole world to chip in given Terrorism and piracy effected all and the foreigners most.NATO & AU provide logistics ONLY. Tactics , Operations have been conducted by the aforementioned troops only. Anyway logistics planes belong to Uganda who have hired mostly Russian pilots so UN reimburses the costs. AU refused to carter for kdf sea vessels and couldn't recognize them thus were withdrawn from deepest Somalia operations. Now with Alshabab They've GREATLY reduced in no. through DEATH. The number of casualties on kdf are exactly as reported on media very few compared to other wars in the world in terms of ratios. @guru note casualties are divided into; Death & Injuries then injuries further into Major/terminal and minor ones,not all casualties means dead! Now wars have phases they go through. keep locked for more. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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The war is phased diff dependingly all in all : Initial involves liberation of areas then Parcification of liberated areas , Cimic activities &community integration, Empowering locals then withdrawal slowly in phases too. this period is minimum 5yrs to many yrs even 20. Alshabab apply Guerilla tactics but the AMISOM troops work under strict Rules of engagement (ROE) among other operational procedures to avoid collateral damage. Since Alshabab are unable to one on one combat they resolved to IEDS. this has a TALL ORDER on troops; that's what's expected in war read of stages of wars in afghan Iraq as soldiers tell. Guerilla are NEVER finished they're just reduced to minimum and hoped that the remnants reform. so it's TRUE AMISOM troops will leave but after there set time( phases) elapse not Alshabab kuwashinda. Alshabab AREN'T superior Haha hehe,Somalia is so large with regional warlords who sometimes identify with kebab just to remain independent. @ 267 do you know places in southern Somalia? na that under kebab vs AMISOM? Haha it's like saying hafrk owns eqty......It's kolbio,badade, bula maji, kudey, ras kamboni,burgavo,delayat and all are under 95% control of AMISOM (5% is coz of melted kebabs Into populace )......more coming Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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deleted Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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