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guru267 wrote:ecstacy wrote:Unlike what 'our' local peeps of the Umma would like us to think, one of the Imams of Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, Salah al-Din ibn Ibrahim Abu Arafa, Imam of the third holiest place in Sunni Islam, criticized ISIS clerics and their motives, stating that they are seeking power instead of the establishment of an Islamic state. So much for "laying the ground work for the Islamic State" @ectsacy surely... I really hope you don't form opinions based on one view! There are plenty of Sunni Muslims who think ISIS are terrorists who says they are not laying the ground work?? How many dissenters should there be for the 'Caliphate' to be doubted? Is this matter subject to a vote? http://m.aljazeera.com/story/20147744058773906
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:guru267 wrote:[quote=ecstacy]Unlike what 'our' local peeps of the Umma would like us to think, one of the Imams of Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, Salah al-Din ibn Ibrahim Abu Arafa, Imam of the third holiest place in Sunni Islam, criticized ISIS clerics and their motives, stating that they are seeking power instead of the establishment of an Islamic state. So much for "laying the ground work for the Islamic State" @ectsacy surely... I really hope you don't form opinions based on one view! There are plenty of Sunni Muslims who think ISIS are terrorists who says they are not laying the ground work?? How many dissenters should there be for the 'Caliphate' to be doubted? Is this matter subject to a vote? http://m.aljazeera.com/story/20147744058773906[/quote] Like I said before... we compare notes in 10 years! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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guru267 wrote:tycho wrote:guru267 wrote:[quote=ecstacy]Unlike what 'our' local peeps of the Umma would like us to think, one of the Imams of Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, Salah al-Din ibn Ibrahim Abu Arafa, Imam of the third holiest place in Sunni Islam, criticized ISIS clerics and their motives, stating that they are seeking power instead of the establishment of an Islamic state. So much for "laying the ground work for the Islamic State" @ectsacy surely... I really hope you don't form opinions based on one view! There are plenty of Sunni Muslims who think ISIS are terrorists who says they are not laying the ground work?? How many dissenters should there be for the 'Caliphate' to be doubted? Is this matter subject to a vote? http://m.aljazeera.com/story/20147744058773906[/quote] Like I said before... we compare notes in 10 years! Therefore truth is a political outcome.
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symbols wrote:guru267 wrote:Wachana na hearsay! You may not like who comes if the Emir is killed Yes it isn't verified but surprise surprise a photo appears  So who will come if the Emir is killed? And what if we end up liking him?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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Iraqi army finds bodies of 53 executed men south of Baghdad.
Hapo ndipo Caliphate imetufikicha.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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Yikes!! Iraq has warned that the Islamic State terrorists have taken control of a huge former Chemical Weapons facility northwest of the capital Baghdad.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/14/2014 Posts: 332 Location: Nairobi
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Dressed in black from head to toe, and wearing a flowing robe, this is the first image seen in years of the world’s most wanted man, whose terrorist group has butchered thousands and stolen more than a billion pounds in gold and cash. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the elusive leader of the Al Qaeda splinter group Islamic State of Iraq and Sham (Isis), walked out of the shadows and delivered a sermon at the Great Mosque in Mosul, Iraq’s second largest city. He addressed the packed congregation – which included Isis fighters and local sympathisers – on the first Friday of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, in the heart of a city his fighters took control of barely a month ago. http://www.fikayogideon....r-al-baghdadi-makes.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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ecstacy wrote:Yikes!! Iraq has warned that the Islamic State terrorists have taken control of a huge former Chemical Weapons facility northwest of the capital Baghdad. Iraq tells U.N. that 'terrorist groups' seized nuclear materials
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Iraq says “terrorist groups” have seized nuclear materials used for scientific research at a university in the country's north. Iraq's UN envoy has appealed for help to "stave off the threat of their use by terrorists in Iraq or abroad." According to Iraq's UN ambassador, Mohamed Ali Alhakim, about 40 kilograms of uranium compounds were kept at Mosul University. He added that such materials "can be used in manufacturing weapons of mass destruction." "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Iraq says “terrorist groups” have seized nuclear materials used for scientific research at a university in the country's north. Iraq's UN envoy has appealed for help to "stave off the threat of their use by terrorists in Iraq or abroad." According to Iraq's UN ambassador, Mohamed Ali Alhakim, about 40 kilograms of uranium compounds were kept at Mosul University. He added that such materials "can be used in manufacturing weapons of mass destruction." The end game is likely to be a curving out of a new state. No more. Kurds already have theirs it's only a matter of time to be recognized by the UN.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Iraq says “terrorist groups” have seized nuclear materials used for scientific research at a university in the country's north. Iraq's UN envoy has appealed for help to "stave off the threat of their use by terrorists in Iraq or abroad." According to Iraq's UN ambassador, Mohamed Ali Alhakim, about 40 kilograms of uranium compounds were kept at Mosul University. He added that such materials "can be used in manufacturing weapons of mass destruction." I am curious,....when Bush and Blair sent an invading force to find weapons of mass destruction, they couldn't find nuclear materials tucked away in a University?
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/6/2013 Posts: 640
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 Now we have a reason to worry, they might decide to supply our mujahideen neighbours with the same. Its all good.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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quicksand wrote:murchr wrote:Iraq says “terrorist groups” have seized nuclear materials used for scientific research at a university in the country's north. Iraq's UN envoy has appealed for help to "stave off the threat of their use by terrorists in Iraq or abroad." According to Iraq's UN ambassador, Mohamed Ali Alhakim, about 40 kilograms of uranium compounds were kept at Mosul University. He added that such materials "can be used in manufacturing weapons of mass destruction." I am curious,....when Bush and Blair sent an invading force to find weapons of mass destruction, they couldn't find nuclear materials tucked away in a University? University. They did not want anything to with "thinking". They wanted things that can be "launched" and "fired". University.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Muriel wrote:quicksand wrote:murchr wrote:Iraq says “terrorist groups” have seized nuclear materials used for scientific research at a university in the country's north. Iraq's UN envoy has appealed for help to "stave off the threat of their use by terrorists in Iraq or abroad." According to Iraq's UN ambassador, Mohamed Ali Alhakim, about 40 kilograms of uranium compounds were kept at Mosul University. He added that such materials "can be used in manufacturing weapons of mass destruction." I am curious,....when Bush and Blair sent an invading force to find weapons of mass destruction, they couldn't find nuclear materials tucked away in a University? University. They did not want anything to with "thinking". They wanted things that can be "launched" and "fired". University. Iraq: 'Terrorists' seize ex-chemical weapons siteQuote:The Islamic State extremist group has taken control of a vast former chemical weapons facility northwest of Baghdad, where remnants of 2,500 degraded chemical rockets filled decades ago with the deadly nerve agent sarin are stored along with other chemical warfare agents, Iraq said in a letter circulated Tuesday at the United Nations. Isis leader calls on Muslims to 'build Islamic state'Quote:He made a "special call" for judges, doctors, engineers and people with military and administrative expertise.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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If they aren't already working together,they will probably win them over with a show of force then the 'gifts' will follow.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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While you all speculate, i can assure you there are people with the entire script plus all the possible, five to ten, scenarios. And they have the joy stick in hand. for those they cant control with a joystick they have a voodoo dolls.
Obama only shifted modus operandi.. But its still the same ol' U.S of A
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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poundfoolish wrote:While you all speculate, i can assure you there are people with the entire script plus all the possible, five to ten, scenarios. And they have the joy stick in hand. for those they cant control with a joystick they have a voodoo dolls.
Obama only shifted modus operandi.. But its still the same ol' U.S of A I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you but that was funny
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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I think whether we like it or not the final Caliphate is being curved out! When U.S.A droned Al Baghdadi's boss they did not expect Al Baghdadi... When they drone Al Baghdadi who knows what next! The whole of U.S.A rejoiced when Osama was killed now we have Al Zarqawi... When they killed Boko Haram's first leader nobody expected that it would yield the mad man Abu Bakr Sheku... Killing the terrorist leadership seems to just make things a lot worse!  Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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symbols wrote:poundfoolish wrote:While you all speculate, i can assure you there are people with the entire script plus all the possible, five to ten, scenarios. And they have the joy stick in hand. for those they cant control with a joystick they have a voodoo dolls.
Obama only shifted modus operandi.. But its still the same ol' U.S of A I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you but that was funny Poundfoolish, Why are you speculating that we are speculating? On what ground can you assure us then?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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guru267 wrote:I think whether we like it or not the final Caliphate is being curved out! When U.S.A droned Al Baghdadi's boss they did not expect Al Baghdadi... When they drone Al Baghdadi who knows what next! The whole of U.S.A rejoiced when Osama was killed now we have Al Zarqawi... When they killed Boko Haram's first leader nobody expected that it would yield the mad man Abu Bakr Sheku... Killing the terrorist leadership seems to just make things a lot worse! It becomes a lot worse first for the Muslims. Soon it just might be that millions of them will be disillusioned by Islam and will seek what they perceive to be better. Of course I am just speculating ,,,,
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